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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Correct error message when lower-constraints.txt is being checked https://review.openstack.org/550758 | 00:48 |
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dirk | dhellmann: I have quickly added some comments on that ocata etherpad. There are some lost ends in your proposal, like e.g. how the global uc is being updated or what about projects that don't use constraints | 01:05 |
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dirk | dhellmann: or the case where we want to enforce a min or a max version, as well as ignoring particular issues (the current xfails) | 01:09 |
dirk | dhellmann: a slightly easier step would be by keeping the bot propose logic but reducing their impact by not doing g-r.txt changes frequently | 01:10 |
dirk | Currently those are driven mostly by projects trying to merge a requirement change that isn't exactly matching g-r. So by relaxing the requirements check as you proposed we wouldn't need the global updates and hence wouldn't trigger a bot run | 01:12 |
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dirk | Alternatively we could just remove all from projects.txt that use constraints and don't want to sync | 01:14 |
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dirk | dhellmann: I think the next step is to propose a review that relaxes the requirements check (hopefully including some tests) and take it from there. Getting that part right is the most crucial one and with that ine in place the bot proposed updates should reduce drastically | 01:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for os-win to new release 4.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/551034 | 06:04 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/550709 | 06:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/550709 | 06:45 |
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zigo | prometheanfire: The big difference is that I'm using uwsgi to directly serve keystone, not using any webserver in front. | 07:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Kien Nguyen proposed openstack/requirements master: Revert "Drop back to docker 2.7.0" https://review.openstack.org/551216 | 08:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Kien Nguyen proposed openstack/requirements master: Revert "Drop back to docker 2.7.0" https://review.openstack.org/551216 | 09:03 |
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prometheanfire | zigo: not familiar with that | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Drop ordereddict from g-r https://review.openstack.org/550732 | 15:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/550709 | 15:27 |
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dhellmann | dirk : I think we have different goals. I'm trying to completely stop syncing all of the requirements because I want projects to not update their minimums just because some other project does. I will try to respond to your comments inline. | 16:43 |
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dirk | dhellmann: I am in alignment with the goal. I suggested to take steps in a different order | 17:04 |
dirk | If we first remove the need for changes to min requirements in g-r then we effectively stopped the sync | 17:04 |
dirk | While still have the ability to make use of it, if we want/have to | 17:05 |
dirk | dhellmann: I'll might try to write that up when I have slept and am back awake. Will be offline traveling for a bit now | 17:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/550709 | 17:20 |
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dhellmann | dirk : ok, I think I misunderstood what you said then. I'll write up what i have in more detail too and we can compare those notes next week | 17:41 |
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prometheanfire | dirk: https://review.openstack.org/550709 | 19:13 |
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