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| prometheanfire | dhellmann: that unicode error is for a period | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/requirements master: fix unicode errors https://review.openstack.org/561761 | 01:12 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: ^maybe? | 01:12 |
| prometheanfire | trying -egenerate now | 01:13 |
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| adriant | Hello, anyone potentially around who can answer some silly questions about global-requirements? | 02:18 |
| prometheanfire | adriant: maybe | 02:21 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 02:21 |
| adriant | prometheanfire: well, mainly I'm curious how it works when one project wants to use versions greater than in the global-requirements. Basically, are all official openstack projects held back by the slowest member? | 02:22 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 02:22 |
| adriant | and how would things work for projects that given the end of py27 want to become exclusively py3? | 02:22 |
| prometheanfire | atm, I don't think that's allowed (via the TC) | 02:23 |
| adriant | https://pythonclock.org/ | 02:23 |
| adriant | ^ well they don't have long to decide | 02:23 |
| prometheanfire | yep, we are aware | 02:23 |
| adriant | :P | 02:23 |
| prometheanfire | iirc the TC still states py27 is supported | 02:23 |
| prometheanfire | not sure they have allowed py3 only stuff | 02:23 |
| prometheanfire | what lib is it btw? | 02:24 |
| adriant | given that most deployments use venvs or docker though, is there still a huge need for global requirements to be held back by the slowest member? | 02:24 |
| adriant | prometheanfire: I'm applying one of our projects for official status and curious what that entails from the requirements side | 02:25 |
| adriant | prometheanfire: most of my requirements are fine, expect maybe django 2.0 which Horizon doesn't support yet (but will soon), and wanting to use https://dramatiq.io/ | 02:26 |
| prometheanfire | adriant: yep, distros are still a thing | 02:26 |
| prometheanfire | adding a lib is fine as long as it follows our guide (licence is good, testing is good, py versions supported are good, code is good, nothing like it in use is good) | 02:27 |
| adriant | prometheanfire: well I convinced the above library to change their license from AGPL to LGPL so I know that's now acceptable :P | 02:29 |
| adriant | but it's a py3 only library so I doubt it could get added until something was decided re py27 support | 02:29 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 02:31 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: around? | 02:31 |
| tonyb | kinda sorta on calls | 02:33 |
| tonyb | 'sup? | 02:33 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: we don't ally py3 only libs in reqs do we? | 02:33 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: ? rephrase? | 02:34 |
| adriant | allow* | 02:34 |
| adriant | tonyb: can py3 only libraries be added to global-requirements | 02:35 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think so | 02:35 |
| prometheanfire | it may be more of a tc level thing to decide, not sure | 02:35 |
| prometheanfire | maybe not | 02:35 |
| tonyb | adriant: what does consumer look like on py2? | 02:36 |
| adriant | tonyb: what do you mean? | 02:36 |
| adriant | The library was only ever py3, it's new | 02:36 |
| adriant | it's not a version, outright new library | 02:36 |
| adriant | tonyb: https://dramatiq.io | 02:37 |
| adriant | so no conflicts or sudden breakages to get hit by | 02:37 |
| tonyb | adriant: Sorry which OpenStack service wants to use that library and what will happen on that service if it's running on py2 | 02:37 |
| adriant | tonyb: no existing service, I want to use it for a service I'm applying with for official status | 02:38 |
| adriant | and a service I want to ideally also make py3 only | 02:38 |
| adriant | for reference: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553643 | 02:38 |
| tonyb | adriant: okay I'll review once I get off this call, it's a little more complex than I can multi-task | 02:40 |
| adriant | tonyb: np! Just wanted to start asking about it since I'd rather not hit issues after potentially getting official status (if it happens) | 02:41 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: thanks | 02:41 |
| adriant | and with py27 being dead soon I don't see the worth in keeping my service compatible with py27 | 02:41 |
| adriant | especially when a really useful library I want to use is py3 only (a good excuse to drop py27 support for me) | 02:42 |
| adriant | tonyb, prometheanfire: thanks! | 02:42 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: also, when you have time https://review.openstack.org/561761 | 03:07 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: that 'fix' worked locally | 03:07 |
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| dhellmann | prometheanfire , tonyb , adriant : please take the question about python-3-only services to the mailing list. I think that's something we're going to need to address very soon. | 04:48 |
| adriant | dhellmann: agreed. Will send an email out to openstack-dev (and SIGs)? | 04:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shachar Snapiri proposed openstack/requirements master: Update skydive version to 0.4.5 https://review.openstack.org/560305 | 05:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Shachar Snapiri proposed openstack/requirements master: Update skydive-client lc version to 0.4.4 https://review.openstack.org/561785 | 05:15 |
| tonyb | dhellmann, Yup. it's clearly not a requirements decsion on how we handle py3 only services | 05:29 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements/master/propose-updates/fe35da6/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-04-16_06_07_52_803385 | 05:39 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: that's the problem | 05:39 |
| prometheanfire | not sure what triggered it | 05:39 |
| tonyb | Yeah I'd like to know that, it started on 2018-04-04 06:22:14.246180 (http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/requirements/master/propose-updates/d12d717/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-04-04_06_22_14_246180) | 05:45 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: no idea why that's different | 05:45 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: ooooh you're patching the symptom not the cause | 05:47 |
| prometheanfire | maybe? | 05:47 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: the real problem is that libvirt-python no longer builds on xenial | 05:47 |
| prometheanfire | really I'm not sure we do much data sanitation :( | 05:47 |
| prometheanfire | oh, wonderful :| | 05:47 |
| tonyb | So it'd be much better to make sure we failed with *that* error no the ascii thing but we need to fix the libvirt thing | 05:48 |
| eandersson | How do we deal with python 2.7 only requirements and lower-constraints? | 05:53 |
| eandersson | e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560541/2/requirements.txt | 05:53 |
| eandersson | Is that the only way? ^ | 05:54 |
| prometheanfire | https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0496/ | 05:54 |
| prometheanfire | env specifiers | 05:55 |
| eandersson | Referring to this error > Package u'qpid-python' is used in requirements.txt but not in lower-constraints.txt | 05:57 |
| eandersson | because lower-constrains is run using python 3, so it does not know about qpid-python | 05:58 |
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| prometheanfire | eandersson: can you link to the error/line? | 06:03 |
| eandersson | The error is | 06:04 |
| eandersson | > > Package u'qpid-python' is used in requirements.txt but not in lower-constraints.txt | 06:04 |
| eandersson | Let me find the complete logs from my local workstation | 06:04 |
| eandersson | http://paste.openstack.org/show/719337/ | 06:06 |
| prometheanfire | why is it in your requirements.txt? | 06:06 |
| prometheanfire | if you aren't using it, just remove it :D | 06:06 |
| eandersson | haha yea I vote for removing as well | 06:07 |
| eandersson | but I don't know why it's there in the first place | 06:07 |
| eandersson | I'll confirm with the Senlin people I guess = | 06:07 |
| eandersson | =] | 06:07 |
| prometheanfire | nor I | 06:07 |
| prometheanfire | git blame :D | 06:08 |
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| eandersson | haha I tried, but was updated by the bot last time, and didn't care enough to dig deeper :D | 06:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shachar Snapiri proposed openstack/requirements master: Update skydive-client lc version to 0.4.5 https://review.openstack.org/561785 | 08:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/requirements master: Add psycopg2-binary to global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/561924 | 12:23 |
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| dhellmann | adriant : openstack-dev should be enough | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | eandersson, prometheanfire : only oslo.messaging should need to have a dependency on qpid-python | 13:32 |
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| prometheanfire | dhellmann: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-requirements/+bug/1719009 done? | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719009 in OpenStack Global Requirements "per project requirements" [High,New] | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : I believe it is. | 15:30 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: feel freel to assign to self and close | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | done | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | thanks for the reminder | 15:32 |
| prometheanfire | :D | 15:32 |
| prometheanfire | every tuesday I have a task to go over bugs :D | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | good system | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.messaging to new release 6.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/561982 | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.rootwrap to new release 5.14.0 https://review.openstack.org/561983 | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed openstack/requirements master: update pecan to 1.3.2 https://review.openstack.org/555891 | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.concurrency to new release 3.27.0 https://review.openstack.org/561984 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.service to new release 1.31.1 https://review.openstack.org/561985 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.config to new release 6.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/561986 | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.versionedobjects to new release 1.33.1 https://review.openstack.org/561987 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.db to new release 4.36.0 https://review.openstack.org/561988 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.reports to new release 1.28.0 https://review.openstack.org/561989 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Isaku Yamahata proposed openstack/requirements master: update pecan to 1.3.2 https://review.openstack.org/555891 | 15:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.vmware to new release 2.28.0 https://review.openstack.org/561990 | 15:43 |
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| dhellmann | cdent : so about the process for updating minimum dependencies... | 16:15 |
| * cdent nods | 16:15 | |
| dhellmann | if the upper constraint is already set to the value you need, you can just make a patch in-tree to change the requirements file(s) | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | if the constraint is not high enough, I think we do need to raise that first | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | so I guess that means a patch in requirements that can be linked to the in-tree patch via a depends-on | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : does that sound right to you? ^^ | 16:16 |
| prometheanfire | I'm not sure what cdent wants | 16:17 |
| cdent | prometheanfire: I'm trying to determine if this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561687/ is the canonical way to raise a minimum test-requirement | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | if wanting to bump the min.... if uc is already at or above the desired new min, just bump lower-constrants | 16:18 |
| cdent | as I need to do something similar for gabbi and heat | 16:18 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 16:18 |
| cdent | so I've released a new gabbi | 16:18 |
| cdent | (that has the bug fix that heat needs) | 16:18 |
| cdent | so presumably both lower and upper need to go up? | 16:18 |
| prometheanfire | ok, so is the new minimum the new release? | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | if we update the constraint first, that should show us that it works with the test suites | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | then it's safe to update the min in a specific project | 16:18 |
| prometheanfire | we try and separate the uc and lc bumps into separate reviews | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | and of course if it doesn't work, we can add an exclusion and update the constraint to the new release when that's ready | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann++ | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : well, they're always going to be separate reviews now, since the lower constraints change is in the project tree :-) | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | ? | 16:20 |
| cdent | dhellmann: I"ve got a dangling reference: above you said "if we update the constraint first" but there are two files with that in their naem? | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: oh, per project, right | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | cdent: ok, the following is what I think you need to do | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | update uc in the requirements repo | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | then make a dependant patch in heat to update lc | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | I think the test jobs will enforce the order we're talking about, because the u-c value won't be compatible with the new range in heat if the u-c hasn't been updated first | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: yep | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | we should write that down in the project team guide | 16:21 |
| * dhellmann goes to check if the new dependencies section was approved | 16:21 | |
| dhellmann | partly: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561058/1 | 16:22 |
| cdent | so let me confirm I've got this right: | 16:23 |
| cdent | in requirments: update upper-constraints.txt, in heat update test-requirements.txt and depends-on the upper-constraints change. Later some kind of automation will see that heat now has a lower bound on gabbi and will update lower-constraints? | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | not quite | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | in the heat patch, you need to update test-requirements.txt and lower-constraints.txt within the heat tree | 16:24 |
| prometheanfire | in heat update test-requirements.txt AND lower-constraints.txt | 16:24 |
| prometheanfire | same time :D | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | I don't know what we're doing with the lower-constraints.txt file in the requirements repo | 16:25 |
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| prometheanfire | dhellmann: right now it's vestigial | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | right | 16:26 |
| cdent | oh | 16:26 |
| cdent | okay, that makes somewhat more sense | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | I need to drop offline to change locations. one of us should write a patch to the project team guide to describe this. who wants to do that? | 16:27 |
| * cdent steps back | 16:27 | |
| cdent | I don't feel like I get it enough to do so | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: yep, lunching | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll work on that after lunch | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | bbiab | 16:27 |
| cdent | but please add me to the review and I will happily review | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: commented in the ptg review | 16:28 |
| prometheanfire | cdent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561058 | 16:28 |
| cdent | hmmm, was going to reference this chat from elsewhere, but looks like the irc logs are failing to update | 16:29 |
| cdent | are ow it has | 16:30 |
| cdent | typing and logging are hard (also turns out my n key is stuck) | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | cdent , prometheanfire : https://review.openstack.org/562006 | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | we could do more to explain the "why" of those steps but that at least gives the "how" | 17:03 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: someone is trying to disolve gentoo as an org :| | 17:05 |
| prometheanfire | guess I'll be busy for a while | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | ! | 17:06 |
| prometheanfire | ya, kinda annoying | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | how does that even work? I mean, if they don't want to participate, shouldn't they just quit? Why "dissolve" it? | 17:10 |
| prometheanfire | because they wanted to basically be placed in leadership positions | 17:11 |
| prometheanfire | you know of drobbins? | 17:12 |
| prometheanfire | he's not the one to contact NM's AG, but he did want to be placed (not elected) to council (our tech leadership) | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/requirements master: Update gabbi to 1.42.0 for sake of heat https://review.openstack.org/562029 | 18:51 |
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| dhellmann | tonyb , prometheanfire : what's the state of the art for setting up tox with libraries? I'm running into trouble with taskflow and am trying https://review.openstack.org/562040 as a solution for this error: http://logs.openstack.org/41/561341/2/check/build-openstack-sphinx-docs/3247c74/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-04-16_18_31_18_408616 | 20:22 |
| dhellmann | I would like to stop using it entirely, but taskflow is in the constraint list so I guess I can't? | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | maybe I only can't because of the fact that taskflow uses "extras" for test dependencies? | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : sorry, I missed your earlier reply about gentoo. I don't know anyone involved, I'm just confused about why someone would push to dissolve an open source project like that. | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | it sounds like drobbins isn't playing well with others | 20:24 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: I think you are doing that right | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | ah, so we still need the script for libs? | 20:24 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: I was just venting, it's been stressful being in that role | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | I can imagine | 20:25 |
| prometheanfire | I kinda want to step down after our elections in july, going to be busy with life changes | 20:26 |
| dhellmann | I hope the situation can be worked out | 20:26 |
| prometheanfire | me too, he's done this before too | 20:26 |
| prometheanfire | https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/8f64b8360969dd09bc376d25638be67e | 20:26 |
| prometheanfire | 2008 | 20:26 |
| prometheanfire | for some easy reading | 20:27 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: about tox_install.sh, I think it's still needed, but tony would probably have the final say | 20:29 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: it's possible the siblings stuff fixes it maybe? | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | maybe? taskflow doesn't use neutron or horizon, so it shouldn't need any of that | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | I think the issue is that taskflow appears in the upper constraints list, so we have to edit that list to run the tests properly against master | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | so unless we stop using extras so we can remove taskflow itself from the list of deps in tox.ini, it seems we need the script | 20:33 |
| dhellmann | I'll see if my work-around fixes the problem | 20:33 |
| prometheanfire | oh, right | 20:33 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I think it's still needed for that | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements master: exclude eventlet 0.21.0 https://review.openstack.org/561009 | 21:32 |
| prometheanfire | new version? | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements master: simplify error handling in generate command https://review.openstack.org/562065 | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Update gabbi to 1.42.0 for sake of heat https://review.openstack.org/562029 | 22:25 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/shade/tree/tox.ini I think is the correct thing these days. | 23:19 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: and then you can remove all the additional scripts | 23:20 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : yeah, I came up with https://review.openstack.org/562049 but need to debug the failures | 23:35 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : that eventlet exclusion patch never merged because it was based on another patch that was rebased before it merged | 23:36 |
| dhellmann | so it got stuck with enough votes to merge but based on a thing that never would | 23:36 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Looks good. Seems like the requirements-check failures are simple enough (based on only looking at the logs) | 23:38 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 23:40 |
| dhellmann | tonyb : yeah, I just need to spend the time on it tomorrow | 23:41 |
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