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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/636269 | 06:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/636269 | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-novaclient to new release 12.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/636727 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for osc-placement to new release 1.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/636729 | 19:24 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for tooz to new release 1.64.1 https://review.openstack.org/636730 | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for os-traits to new release 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/636732 | 19:28 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.db to new release 4.44.0 https://review.openstack.org/636733 | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for neutron-lib to new release 1.24.0 https://review.openstack.org/636736 | 19:35 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: meeting? | 20:31 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 20:32 |
| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 20:32 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 13 20:32:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:32 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 20:32 |
| prometheanfire | #topic rollcall | 20:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:32 | |
| prometheanfire | ping tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann | 20:33 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 20:33 |
| tonyb | \o | 20:33 |
| prometheanfire | will wait a min | 20:34 |
| tonyb | could be a quick meeting ;P | 20:34 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 20:35 |
| prometheanfire | #topic issies in the queue | 20:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "issies in the queue (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:35 | |
| prometheanfire | just needs votes for stable stuff | 20:35 |
| tonyb | Yup I'll do them today | 20:36 |
| * prometheanfire would like it if people could check the queue at least once a week | 20:36 | |
| prometheanfire | thanks | 20:36 |
| prometheanfire | these are less then a week old though | 20:36 |
| tonyb | I'll also send the email about publishing constraints | 20:36 |
| prometheanfire | oh? email needed? | 20:37 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: the one you're doing a good job of naggign me about ;P | 20:37 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: blame todoist :P | 20:38 |
| prometheanfire | #topic requests updates in stable branches | 20:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "requests updates in stable branches (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:39 | |
| tonyb | This is a pretty big and risky chnage as it's proposed | 20:39 |
| prometheanfire | I think https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2004979 is basically a drive by | 20:39 |
| tonyb | I asked if we can get backports | 20:39 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 20:39 |
| tonyb | is sigmavirus a requests core? can we leverage him to do a thing? | 20:40 |
| prometheanfire | I could try asking | 20:40 |
| prometheanfire | and check if they even have stable branches | 20:40 |
| prometheanfire | next? | 20:41 |
| tonyb | I think so | 20:41 |
| prometheanfire | #topic ptg/summit | 20:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ptg/summit (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:41 | |
| prometheanfire | still no confirmation here | 20:41 |
| dhellmann | we haven't usually worried about raising mins for bugs on libs in stable branches in the past, have we? | 20:42 |
| tonyb | I think we'll have a requirements-lib session at the forum, and then a follwo-up at the PYG | 20:42 |
| dhellmann | there was an email with a list of the teams that had space | 20:42 |
| prometheanfire | I did book wedding stuff so I can make it to the ptg part (fly back tuesday, can fly out wednesday) | 20:42 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: IIRC we opted for 'hallway / adhoc' space at the PTF | 20:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, I wasn't sure what prometheanfire meant about confirmation | 20:42 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: that can work | 20:43 |
| prometheanfire | I've responded that reqs people will be there | 20:43 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: I think he measn from $employer in terms of funding | 20:43 |
| prometheanfire | will probably get a day slot for it | 20:43 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: yep | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | aha | 20:43 |
| * dhellmann has no insight there | 20:43 | |
| tonyb | :D | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | yep, I should know soon though | 20:44 |
| prometheanfire | who else is going? | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | I have a ticket, but haven't booked anything else yet | 20:45 |
| tonyb | So requests don't do stable branches and sigmavirus is a core | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | not surprising | 20:46 |
| * tonyb has booked flights/hotel and summit pass | 20:46 | |
| tonyb | I don't think I can do more than that at this point ;p | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | it's a bit early to pack | 20:46 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Only a little ;P | 20:47 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: but I do have my 'travel box' accumulating stuff to pack ;P | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | although I knew a guy once who went on enough trips that he just kept a bag packed all the time | 20:47 |
| tonyb | ergh :/ | 20:47 |
| tonyb | I knew a support guy that did that | 20:47 |
| prometheanfire | heh, not that bad | 20:47 |
| tonyb | 'cause he'd often get very little notice | 20:47 |
| * dhellmann would not want that life | 20:47 | |
| dhellmann | yeah | 20:47 |
| prometheanfire | depends, pay me enough | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : ask your fiancé about that | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | so, for the security thing, are we capped in those stable branches? | 20:48 |
| prometheanfire | well, not now, but before :P | 20:49 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: no but the jump fro 2.12 -> 2.20 is pretty big and requests used to break stuff in minor releases | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | yeah :-) | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | right, I'm suggesting we not change anything in our setup at all | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | if we're not capped, then we're not telling anyone they can't use something newer -- it might not work, but that's not on us | 20:49 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: We can probably reach out via VMT to find security contacts and get them to test $projects against the proposed update | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | we could always try raising the constraint in that branch as a test, but we don't do that for other things that don't break our gate | 20:50 |
| prometheanfire | ya, the diff between those versions is a bit big | 20:50 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: true, downstream is free to upgrade and/or backport | 20:50 |
| prometheanfire | we can test it of course as well | 20:50 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: I was thinkign about our gate etc | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | right, if someone comes around and says "in order to make these stable branches work with 2.20 we need this patch" then we have a useful update to consider | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | just raising the minimum doesn't seem useful | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | so I would reject the current patch with that explanation, and wait for further communication | 20:51 |
| prometheanfire | so... next steps, test a update? | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | what's motivating us to update anything? | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | CVE | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | if it was not a CVE, we wouldn't? | 20:53 |
| prometheanfire | update a stable branch? correct | 20:54 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: correct | 20:54 |
| prometheanfire | security updates are one of the exceptions | 20:54 |
| prometheanfire | but it's not JUST security :| | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | I could see removing an exclusion or cap. I don't think we need to raise the min. | 20:54 |
| tonyb | I don't think we need to raise the minimum at all, but upping u-c is something we should do | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | Do we expect this CVE to cause issues for us in the gate? | 20:55 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: agreed, test the uc bump (and cap removal if needed) but don't bump min | 20:55 |
| tonyb | the CVE speciifcally no | 20:55 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I don't think there are any caps to remove | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | Then what about the nature of this bug means we want to treat it differently? Just because it's security related? | 20:56 |
| tonyb | dhellmann: Yes | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | yes, it's one of the criteria in evaling stable branch reviews | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | #topic open floor | 20:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 20:57 | |
| tonyb | Nothing from me | 20:58 |
| * dhellmann has nothing | 20:58 | |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Requirements - IRC meetngs on Wednesdays @ 07:00 UTC in here in #openstack-requirements - See agenda @ http://tinyurl.com/h44ryuw - IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://tinyurl.com/j38rk24" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 13 20:59:09 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-02-13-20.32.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-02-13-20.32.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2019/requirements.2019-02-13-20.32.log.html | 20:59 |
| smcginnis | Missed it. | 21:02 |
| smcginnis | I do have a go bag and can probably be ready for an international trip within 10 minutes. :) | 21:05 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Are you going to be at the Summit and PTG, or do you need to leave early and miss all the fun? | 21:06 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I'm there for the full 10? days! | 21:08 |
| tonyb | OUI, Summit and PTG | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Awesome. Should be a blast. This one will really be a marathon. | 21:09 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Yeah. | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | I think I'm at least going to be there Saturday to the following Sunday. | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Is OUI starting on Saturday before the Summit? | 21:09 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I believe that's the plan | 21:09 |
| smcginnis | Cool, I'll keep that in mind when I can book a flight to try to get out there early. | 21:10 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: If you wanted and were free you could come to the Sunday OUI thing | 21:10 |
| tonyb | that's the fun day anyway ;P | 21:10 |
| smcginnis | Probably can't Sunday, but maybe Saturday. | 21:10 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Saturday is a half day (afternoon only) | 21:10 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: ... this is all assuming we follow the same format as past events | 21:11 |
| smcginnis | Perfect, if I fly in the morning then I can probably be settled in time to go there in the afternoon. | 21:11 |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo or ildikov would be able to confirm | 21:11 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: \o/ | 21:11 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I guess you don't need to worry too much about jetlag etc ;P | 21:11 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Super easy 2 hour flight for me. | 21:12 |
| smcginnis | Though I am tempted to drive down. Just over 13 hours. | 21:12 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: that could be fun (driving) | 21:12 |
| tonyb | if I were close enough to do that I would | 21:13 |
| smcginnis | Been tempted in the past to do a long motorcycle trip, but I have a feeling I would regret that by mid-Nebraska. | 21:13 |
| tonyb | hehe | 21:13 |
| tonyb | I think I was 18 the last time I rode a motorcycle ;p | 21:14 |
| tonyb | I used to really enjoy the feel of the road | 21:14 |
| tonyb | but yeah I don't know about US conditions they'd be very different to NZ | 21:14 |
| smcginnis | I had one in high school and had to sell it around 18. Really missed it and ended up getting one again a few years back. | 21:14 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:15 |
| smcginnis | It got a little scarier at first after 20 years. | 21:15 |
| smcginnis | :) | 21:15 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: when we're drinking remind me to tell you the story of how I got my first motorcycle | 21:15 |
| smcginnis | This sounds like it could be an interesting story to hear over a beer or two. :) | 21:16 |
| tonyb | It's pretty tame but much more fun after a beer | 21:16 |
| smcginnis | Definitely interest to hear it! | 21:16 |
| * tonyb has a whole bunch of stories that I need to be 'relaxed' to tell ;P | 21:16 | |
| smcginnis | hah | 21:17 |
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| prometheanfire | tonyb: smcginnis dirk dhellmann anyone want to give a project update at the summit? got the email and I won't be there | 22:39 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I can if you think we have anything interesting to say | 22:41 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I don't know if we've done anythign about lower-constratints.txt | 22:41 |
| prometheanfire | I don't really | 22:41 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, willing to help, but not sure what we would say. | 22:41 |
| prometheanfire | I think lower-constraints was talked about in germany | 22:41 |
| tonyb | okay that makes sense | 22:42 |
| prometheanfire | I don't think we have anything, unless tonyb publishes stuff :P | 22:42 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I doubt that'll make it but I could talk about it ... that's only 5mins though ;P | 22:42 |
| prometheanfire | various upstreams are annoying (salt, opentracing, etc, but that'd different) | 22:42 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: replay to whomever from the Foundation is handling it delegate to me. | 22:43 |
| prometheanfire | yep, my updates were never long, but I don't think we need anything | 22:43 |
| prometheanfire | they were asking us to apply for a slot | 22:43 |
| tonyb | we can spend the nest little while working out what we have to say and if needed we can pull out | 22:43 |
| prometheanfire | we could just not apply | 22:43 |
| tonyb | I don't think a whole in the schedule would be terrible as long as we do it in early April | 22:44 |
| prometheanfire | would we have time to get the tox updates out? | 22:44 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: tox yes but I don't know how long the infra chnages will take and if there is anyone with free cycles to help with it (which is what the email is about) ;P | 22:45 |
| prometheanfire | ah, k | 22:45 |
| prometheanfire | still want the talk contact delegated? | 22:45 |
| tonyb | Yeah please do | 22:45 |
| prometheanfire | k | 22:45 |
| tonyb | okay | 22:45 |
| * tonyb goes for breakfast and to clean house for a bit | 22:46 | |
| tonyb | back in 15-30 | 22:46 |
| prometheanfire | cya | 22:46 |
| prometheanfire | stable reviews kthnx | 22:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for tooz to new release 1.64.1 https://review.openstack.org/636730 | 23:57 |
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