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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/requirements master: Cap zipp for py3.5  https://review.opendev.org/72930602:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for openstackdocstheme to new release 2.2.1  https://review.opendev.org/72974405:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.opendev.org/72951706:21
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.opendev.org/72951706:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements master: Blacklist openstackdocstheme 2.1.1  https://review.opendev.org/72837311:22
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hrwsmcginnis, prometheanfire: I would need to add some ansible rules for aarch64 job. Requirements does not have any own playbook. How to add extra pre.yml?12:28
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smcginnishrw: I think you can add to existing pre.yml files and have a condition on the action to only run if on a matching platform.12:57
smcginnishrw: #opendev or #openstack-infra (or maybe even #zuul) might be good places to ask.12:58
hrwthanks12:58
hrwI am thinking of building librdkafka from Debian 'testing' so have all deps in place12:58
hrwthe only way to build confluent_kafka on any of openstack nodes distros12:59
smcginnishrw: No one has it packaged yet?13:06
hrwsmcginnis: Debian 'testing' has proper version.13:06
hrwbut it is not ready for openstack node imho13:07
hrwhttps://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2020/05/21/from-a-diary-of-aarch64-porter-firefighting/13:25
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smcginnisNice write up.13:30
smcginnisI've hit several issues trying to use my Pinebook. The ARM ecosystem has a ways to go yet.13:31
hrwsmcginnis: 'AArch64 world has toys on cheap side, servers on expensive and some attempts in a middle.' - pinebook is in toys part.13:33
hrwsmcginnis: I work with servers part. they are just boring boxes.13:33
hrwsmcginnis: https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2020/05/14/new-toy-arrived-rockpro64/13:34
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smcginnisYeah. I got it as a toy really. Something different to play around with. It would be nice to have a decent spec'd machine.13:35
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hrwtoo much firefighting and yak shaving this week13:35
hrwsmcginnis: I have several blog posts about 'would be nice' part ;D13:35
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hrwstopped caring some time ago13:36
hrwtoo big chicken and egg problem13:36
hrwthere is no market because ecosystem sucks. ecosystem sucks because there is no market13:36
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for ironic-lib to new release 2.21.1  https://review.opendev.org/72995713:42
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for python-ironic-inspector-client to new release 3.7.1  https://review.opendev.org/72995813:44
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for python-ironicclient to new release 3.1.2  https://review.opendev.org/72996113:45
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for sushy to new release 2.0.3  https://review.opendev.org/72996413:50
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/requirements master: Cap zipp for py3.5  https://review.opendev.org/72930615:58
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements stable/ussuri: update constraint for os-win to new release 5.0.2  https://review.opendev.org/73000916:05
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879817:00
hrwthat's experiment17:00
hrwadded extra pre-run to build librdkafka package from Debian 'testing' so we need all deps for 'confluent_kafka'17:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.opendev.org/72951717:05
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879817:10
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879817:25
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879818:03
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879818:15
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879818:25
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for openstack-release-test to new release 3.1.0  https://review.opendev.org/73009818:35
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879818:46
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hrware there any conferences for people who teach on the internet? (kind of like write the docs, but a bit more about learning than about documentation)18:50
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hrwToday was the first time it occurred to me that the global situation could lead not only to a depression but also to conflict. What’s happening in Asia and the potential US response (bound to be awful and intellectually bankrupt) is concerning. I hope my spidey sense is wrong18:51
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hrwThis is what happens when you get long-term incumbents in the industry -- people (as in us) tend to get sloppy, and that is contagious. But it is what incumbents live on -- the inertia in the industry. Once in a blue moon a disruption happens and there's much yak shaving and ire.18:53
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hrwSelf-hosted can also be in the cloud. It just needs a little extra plumbing to trigger the dynamic creation of the target infrastructure to ‘self-host’ on. We’re already looking at this and will share details once there’s a solution.18:54
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hrwThis is a fantastic reference if you want to get a proper feel for cuneiform and the Sumerian language, without necessarily studying it in the full depth an academic course would entail.18:56
hrwAn absolute bargain on Kindle for less than £8.18:56
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hrwICYMI, the masterminds of @digi_hammurabi wrote this wonderful intro to Sumerian that is miles more accessible and clear than any other teaching resource I’ve come across for this language.18:56
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hrw"self-hosted" == you need to have hardware already.18:57
hrwBoth GitHub actions and Azure pipelines require you to have hardware.18:57
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hrwTesting safety critical Linux or UNIX systems? Here is my presentation of stress-ng at a recent ELISA (Enabling Linux in Safety Applications) conference: kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/stress-…18:58
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hrwBackstory: A driver for an accelerator from habanalabs was merged a while ago that didn't have such "a working, open, userspace". Back then Greg did not consider this to be a problem, but he changed his mind (see the link above). But luckily they have now: lore.kernel.org/lkml/202005200…18:58
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hrwOn #LKML, @gregkh recently made clear that acceleration drivers need "a working, open, userspace" if they want to be merged into the #Linux #kernel, " […] to be able to properly evaluate […] be able to maintain things over time correctly […]"18:58
hrwDetails: lore.kernel.org/lkml/202005200…18:59
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hrwThis is what happens when you get long-term incumbents in the industry -- people (as in us) tend to get sloppy, and that is contagious. But it is what incumbents live on -- the inertia in the industry. Once in a blue moon a disruption happens and there's much yak shaving and ire.19:00
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hrwSelf-hosted can also be in the cloud. It just needs a little extra plumbing to trigger the dynamic creation of the target infrastructure to ‘self-host’ on. We’re already looking at this and will share details once there’s a solution.19:00
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hrw"self-hosted" == you need to have hardware already.19:01
hrwBoth GitHub actions and Azure pipelines require you to have hardware.19:01
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879819:09
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/requirements master: CI: add requirements-tox-py3x-check-uc job on AArch64  https://review.opendev.org/72879820:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for sushy to new release 2.0.3  https://review.opendev.org/72996421:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements master: Cap zipp for py3.5  https://review.opendev.org/72930621:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements stable/ussuri: update constraint for os-win to new release 5.0.2  https://review.opendev.org/73000922:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for ironic-lib to new release 2.21.1  https://review.opendev.org/72995722:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for python-ironicclient to new release 3.1.2  https://review.opendev.org/72996122:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements stable/train: update constraint for python-ironic-inspector-client to new release 3.7.1  https://review.opendev.org/72995822:32
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/requirements master: Cap oslotest for py3.5  https://review.opendev.org/73014823:50
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