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openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/rpm-packaging: Use setup.py test wrapper https://review.openstack.org/308911 | 11:12 |
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toabctl | number80: so why doesn't it fit for people who manually install openstack? | 14:06 |
number80 | yeah, we had that discussion with documentation folks | 14:06 |
number80 | if we don't ship backends in packages requiring at least one installed, it's an issue | 14:07 |
number80 | I'm all for squeezing unneededed deps, but database backends are now cheap since we yanked mysql-python | 14:08 |
toabctl | hm. but if you have installed the backends but not mysql or postgres it's useless, too | 14:08 |
toabctl | and with dirks suggestion you have a backend installed when one of the servers are installed. | 14:08 |
number80 | toabctl: database can be at another server | 14:09 |
number80 | gotcha | 14:09 |
number80 | well, I don't mind having servers as weak deps | 14:09 |
toabctl | hm. true. | 14:09 |
IgorYozhikov | glue them with db clients ? | 14:10 |
toabctl | I think you don't need any db clients with the pure python implementation. | 14:10 |
number80 | yes | 14:12 |
IgorYozhikov | finished where started. Looks like using AiO is still a solution here | 14:13 |
IgorYozhikov | so using all supported - leads to install of useless code, using separate packages lead to update of mans, docs and event puppets,chef | 14:15 |
dirk | number80: hmm | 14:20 |
dirk | we'd be fine with shipping like the python modules of one extra database, but its never just one | 14:20 |
dirk | the next one will be coming around the corner, and then you have tons of dependencies you don#t actually care about | 14:21 |
dirk | to address the documentation team issue - we can still require at least one of the backends to be installed, and if no specific one is selected, install mysql | 14:21 |
dirk | that'd be something like | 14:21 |
dirk | Required: python-oslo.db-backend | 14:21 |
dirk | %package mysql\nProvides: python-oslo.db-backend = %version | 14:21 |
dirk | and then you add a Recommends: python-oslo.db-mysql somewhere | 14:22 |
number80 | yeah, but still ignored on old platform | 14:23 |
number80 | nonetheless, I'd like this point to be discussed at a more quiet time :) | 14:23 |
* number80 is currently in travel | 14:24 | |
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