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jpena | it's meeting time | 13:00 |
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jpena | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed May 9 13:00:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:00 |
jpena | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, aplanas, IgorYozhikov, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof, ykarel | 13:00 |
jpena | Remember to add items to the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:01 |
jruzicka | o/ | 13:01 |
jpena | #chair jruzicka | 13:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: jpena jruzicka | 13:01 |
toabctl | hi | 13:01 |
jpena | #chair toabctl | 13:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: jpena jruzicka toabctl | 13:01 |
toabctl | jpena, I don't have topics for today | 13:03 |
jpena | #topic Reviews | 13:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Reviews (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:03 | |
jpena | we have a couple reviews to look after | 13:04 |
jpena | https://review.openstack.org/555906 (cinder) and https://review.openstack.org/566856 (keystone) | 13:04 |
jpena | I'll go through some other reviews, I see we have several for master | 13:05 |
toabctl | ok. me too | 13:05 |
toabctl | and I'll package python-zunclient which is now neede for mistral | 13:05 |
jpena | good | 13:06 |
jpena | #topic open floor | 13:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:09 | |
jruzicka | I see renderspec templating continue to work well... nice :) | 13:09 |
toabctl | jpena, I'll be out for 3 month | 13:09 |
toabctl | I might join next week but after that, don't expect me to do anything until 22.8. | 13:10 |
jpena | toabctl: wow, that's a long holiday :) | 13:10 |
jruzicka | toabctl, whoa, brutal holiday | 13:10 |
toabctl | jpena, parental leave | 13:10 |
jpena | ah, congratulations then | 13:10 |
jruzicka | I was starting to figure that out :) | 13:10 |
toabctl | thx :) | 13:10 |
toabctl | so not exactly holidays ;) | 13:10 |
jruzicka | toabctl, right, but not regular work either ;) | 13:11 |
jruzicka | enjoy the beginning of new cycle ;) | 13:11 |
toabctl | sure. and having a break from all that crazy computer stuff is not bad tbh :) | 13:11 |
toabctl | anyway - just wanted to mention it so you don't wonder where I am | 13:12 |
jruzicka | it feels like unplugging a cable from spine to me ;) | 13:12 |
jruzicka | change is always good | 13:12 |
ykarel_ | o/ | 13:13 |
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jruzicka | toabctl, thanks for the info | 13:13 |
jpena | anything else to discuss? | 13:13 |
toabctl | not from my side | 13:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: Remove unnecessary BRs for keystone https://review.openstack.org/566856 | 13:14 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: Update reno to 2.9.1 https://review.openstack.org/566024 | 13:14 |
ykarel | can i get some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566310/ | 13:14 |
ykarel | starting to use singlespec for services ^^ | 13:15 |
jpena | that's a good one. From what I saw, it looks like we'll need some changes in singlespec to make that work (due to not having a main python-glance package), but I'm not fully familiar with the macros | 13:15 |
apevec | or alternative, get rid of macros, let renderspec do all the work | 13:17 |
ykarel | jpena, yup that can be fixed i think, i am working around it locally, will make it cleaner and push | 13:17 |
apevec | I was going to have a closer look at renderspec to see if that's doable | 13:18 |
apevec | jruzicka, ^wdyt | 13:18 |
apevec | jpena, maybe I should write a spec, do we have them for rpm-packaging? | 13:18 |
jpena | apevec: we've never used them afaik | 13:18 |
jruzicka | apevec, I personally dislike macros as they are distro specific and hard to distribute | 13:19 |
apevec | ok, then maybe just some docs with use-story description in the repo? | 13:19 |
jruzicka | apevec, I personally would try to have everything in generic platform independent renderspec, but I'm not a big packager so I don't get to see the advantages of macros | 13:20 |
ykarel | if we can go backward, with what bring both renderspec and macros to do the job, may be pros, cons are already known for it | 13:21 |
apevec | I think singlespec macros is just what suse already had and for suse renderspec would still spit them in the output .spec | 13:21 |
jpena | apevec: we have some more of that in https://github.com/openstack/renderspec/blob/master/doc/source/usage.rst | 13:21 |
apevec | jpena, ok, so I'll try to push my thoughts as a review there | 13:21 |
jruzicka | apevec, sounds good, tag me as a reviewer. I need to start monitoring upstream gerrit again... | 13:22 |
toabctl | apevec, imo the question is really if we want to have a python2 *and* python3 version for services | 13:22 |
toabctl | dirk and me tried to exercise it with cinder as example here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging-singlespec-services | 13:23 |
* jruzicka needs to run errands before another meeting, will read backlog later | 13:24 | |
toabctl | so independent of macros vs. renderspec vs. something else, which binary packages would you expect from cinder (or any other service) that supports python2 and python3 ? | 13:25 |
toabctl | and what is the usecase of having eg. openstack-cinder-volume-py2 and openstack-cinder-volume-py3 ? | 13:26 |
apevec | we need py3 only for services | 13:26 |
toabctl | apevec, yes. so we can just package the services for python3 :) | 13:26 |
ykarel | but in rocky don't we need python2? | 13:26 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: [keystone] Switch to stestr https://review.openstack.org/566941 | 13:26 |
toabctl | ykarel, I would say it's | 13:27 |
toabctl | up to us what we want. it would be nice to have python2 and python3, but if we only provide python3, fine with me | 13:27 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: python-zunclient: Initial packaging https://review.openstack.org/567220 | 13:28 |
ykarel | hmm, seeing the current case of singlespec, there is some work needed to get it work for services, | 13:30 |
ykarel | but not sure how to get python3 run on rhel7/centos7 | 13:30 |
ykarel | and yes getting only python3 would be cleaner and easier | 13:31 |
ykarel | apevec, ^^ | 13:31 |
ykarel | who all are consumers of the packages generated from rpm-packaging? | 13:32 |
ykarel | if those do not need py2 versions we can get rid of it | 13:34 |
jpena | afaik, our packages are used by SUSE, and just openstack-macros by RDO (with plans to expand that) | 13:36 |
ykarel | Do SUSE needs py2 version? | 13:37 |
toabctl | ykarel, SUSE uses the libs and the client packages. but not the services currently | 13:37 |
toabctl | ykarel, for the clients and libs, currently yes. but having the service py3 only would be ok | 13:37 |
ykarel | toabctl, Ok, so we can go with py3 only spec, not depending on singlespec, right? | 13:38 |
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toabctl | yes | 13:46 |
ykarel | toabctl, Ok Thanks. I will focus on it from tomorrow. Already seeing some issues with py3 packages, but those can be fixed | 13:47 |
jpena | #agreed focus on py3 for services | 13:49 |
jpena | Any other topic to discuss? | 13:49 |
* ykarel nothing from my side | 13:50 | |
jpena | ok, let's get 10 minutes back, then | 13:50 |
jpena | #endmeeting | 13:50 |
*** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging - Regular IRC Meeting Wednesdays 1:00 PM UTC in openstack-rpm-packaging" | 13:50 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 9 13:50:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2018/rpm_packaging.2018-05-09-13.00.html | 13:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2018/rpm_packaging.2018-05-09-13.00.txt | 13:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2018/rpm_packaging.2018-05-09-13.00.log.html | 13:50 |
jpena | thanks for attending! | 13:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: Update oslo.config to 6.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/557072 | 14:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: Update oslo.config to 6.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/557072 | 14:49 |
toabctl | jpena, does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567220/ look good to you? | 15:15 |
jpena | toabctl: I haven't looked at it yet, I'll give it a try in < 1h | 15:15 |
toabctl | jpena, ok. thx | 15:15 |
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