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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/rpm-packaging stable/rocky: monasca-tempest-plugin: Fix skipping of tests https://review.openstack.org/639609 | 09:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: update oslo.messaging to v9.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/609316 | 10:09 |
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| dirk | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, jpena, jruzicka, number80, kaslcrof, ykarel, cmurphy | 13:37 |
| dirk | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:37 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 27 13:37:55 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dirk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:37 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:37 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:37 |
| dirk | #topic roll call | 13:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:38 | |
| dirk | do we get a quorum today? | 13:38 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 13:38 |
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| toabctl | hi | 13:40 |
| jpena | o/ | 13:40 |
| dirk | whoohoo! | 13:41 |
| dirk | everyone, add your agenda items to | 13:41 |
| dirk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:41 |
| dirk | ok, no agenda items pop up | 13:45 |
| dirk | # PTL election | 13:45 |
| dirk | #topic PTL election | 13:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL election (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:45 | |
| dirk | small reminder, the PTL self-election period for Train is upcoming (March 4th-8th) | 13:45 |
| dirk | does anyone want to volunteer? | 13:46 |
| toabctl | should we try to continue with the rotation? | 13:48 |
| dirk | what other options do you have in mind? | 13:48 |
| toabctl | if we rotate by company, jpena would be next :) if the company doesn't matter, I could do it next cycle | 13:48 |
| toabctl | play dice ? :) | 13:49 |
| jpena | well, I'm 1 against 3, so the other company should have 3 slots before :P | 13:49 |
| toabctl | jpena, you need to count the people from this list : https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1007,members :P | 13:50 |
| jpena | well yeah, I was thinking about active cores | 13:50 |
| toabctl | :) | 13:50 |
| toabctl | jpena, so I assume you don't want to do it, right? | 13:50 |
| jpena | I'd rather pass this time | 13:51 |
| toabctl | ok. I can step in then | 13:51 |
| jpena | \o/ | 13:51 |
| dirk | wfm | 13:51 |
| dirk | the only other option I see is to proactively inform the TC that we're not going to participate in this going forward, and not nominate a PTL | 13:52 |
| cmurphy | why would you want to do that? | 13:52 |
| toabctl | participating in having a PTL? or what do you mean, dirk? | 13:53 |
| dirk | no longer being listed as official project | 13:53 |
| dirk | e.g. having to follow the openstack foundation rules (PTL election every 6 months etc) | 13:54 |
| cmurphy | are the rules posing such a hardship that it's worthwhile to withdraw from the openstack project? | 13:55 |
| dirk | no, I didn't want to imply that | 13:56 |
| dirk | my thinking is that there is imho also a certain responsibility in being PTL towards the project (not the on paper-nomination rules) and I'M not sure we're currently committing ourselves towards that responsibility | 13:57 |
| dirk | however thats mostly speaking for myself ;) | 13:57 |
| dirk | anyway, I'm fine with toabctl stepping up. thanks! | 13:57 |
| dirk | toabctl: please remember to send an election candidacy then by next week .. | 13:58 |
| cmurphy | the ptl is just supposed to act as a contact point and decision maker, i think it's kind of good to have even if we were an unofficial project | 13:58 |
| toabctl | dirk, I try. but feel free to remind me again in the next meeting :) | 13:58 |
| dirk | cmurphy: you're describing the passive role, I meant the active part of the role (participating in the community/cross comunity goals/helping other projects to integrate) .. | 13:59 |
| dirk | I'm happy to discuss this further, can we move it to the open floor part of the meeting? | 13:59 |
| cmurphy | sure | 14:00 |
| dirk | #topic project update | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "project update (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 14:00 | |
| dirk | so for the first time ever I recently got a mail asking whether we as a project would like to give a "project update" talk at the openstack summit in denver | 14:00 |
| dirk | since I'm not sure I will be there (actually more sure I won't) I was wondering if anybody else would like to step up? | 14:01 |
| jpena | I won't be there either | 14:01 |
| toabctl | same for me. not there | 14:01 |
| dirk | after myself of bitching about not being asked for about two years in a row not answering is also not good :/ | 14:01 |
| dirk | cmurphy? | 14:02 |
| cmurphy | I will be there | 14:02 |
| cmurphy | I have to give several other presentations | 14:02 |
| cmurphy | but I can give this update if someone helps me with the content? | 14:02 |
| dirk | I can probably help with that | 14:03 |
| cmurphy | okay | 14:04 |
| dirk | thanks colleen! | 14:05 |
| dirk | lets see if we can sneak in still (I think the official response deadline is already over). I'll followup on this | 14:05 |
| dirk | #topic open floor | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 14:06 | |
| dirk | do we have reviews to discuss for today? | 14:06 |
| toabctl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609316/ needs fixing for centos | 14:06 |
| toabctl | jpena, ^^ could you have a look? I hope we can get this merged after ~4 month... | 14:07 |
| jpena | I've been working on it this week. In cnetos, it's failing with some strange error message when building mistral | 14:08 |
| jpena | I'll give it another look and see if I can find the reason | 14:09 |
| toabctl | thx! | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/rpm-packaging stable/rocky: magnum-tempest-plugin: Fix skipping of tests https://review.openstack.org/639609 | 14:09 |
| dirk | thanks jpena | 14:09 |
| dirk | I think I'll need to do another pass at oslo* updates | 14:10 |
| dirk | we have Sten branch cut upcoming, it would be good to have master in a sensible shape | 14:11 |
| dirk | its not very closely aligned with what stein is at this point in time | 14:11 |
| dirk | I think we'd have to do some effort on getting all the versions into the right state packaged | 14:11 |
| dirk | can we distribute the work on this a bit? do we want to do one review per package and getting it into the current version? | 14:11 |
| toabctl | 1 review (given that the CI is green) sounds good to me. also distributing the work | 14:12 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 14:12 |
| toabctl | one more thing - is it possible to add jira to the centos/fedora CI, jpena ? it's needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639076/ | 14:13 |
| toabctl | otherwise we would need a workaround for fedora/centos | 14:14 |
| jpena | I'm on it, but it may take some time | 14:14 |
| jpena | fedora should be easy | 14:14 |
| toabctl | ok. thx | 14:14 |
| dirk | toabctl: do you still maintain the packaging status somewhere? I remember it was at https://toabctl.de/openstack/ but that seems to 403 | 14:15 |
| toabctl | https://toabctl.de/openstack/rpm-packaging-status-stein.html | 14:16 |
| toabctl | dirk ^^ | 14:16 |
| dirk | thanks! | 14:16 |
| dirk | I'll do oslo.* and maybe some of the *client | 14:17 |
| dirk | more concretely, the last 5 of *client | 14:17 |
| toabctl | I'll do os-* and the -lib$ stuff | 14:17 |
| cmurphy | do we want to keep track with an etherpad or something? | 14:19 |
| cmurphy | i can do dashboards or clients or services or whatever | 14:19 |
| toabctl | we could fix https://toabctl.de/openstack/rpm-packaging-status-stein.html which should show opne reviews | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: neutron-lib: Update to 1.24.0 https://review.openstack.org/639678 | 14:20 |
| dirk | cmurphy: yep, I thought the view from tom above automatically tracks open reviews | 14:23 |
| dirk | it might take some time (an hour or so) to update though | 14:23 |
| cmurphy | hmm | 14:23 |
| toabctl | I think I need to update the tool on the server. I'll have a look | 14:24 |
| dirk | that said the "reviews" column is empty. so something is broken? | 14:24 |
| dirk | ok, thanks | 14:24 |
| dirk | anything else for today? cmurphy want to finish the PTL or not PTL discussion here? | 14:24 |
| cmurphy | sure | 14:25 |
| cmurphy | i don't have much else to say | 14:26 |
| dirk | cmurphy: my feeling is that I haven't much participated in pushing the growth of the project as well as participated in community goals like e.g. https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/index.html | 14:26 |
| dirk | we still don't have most packaging python3 first or python3 compatible | 14:26 |
| dirk | so I think its a fair thought to say that we're not able to keep progress on those (or not even sure if/how upgradechecks would apply to packaging) | 14:27 |
| dirk | we haven't e.g. established a good plan around how to package the upgradecheck tooling for example | 14:27 |
| cmurphy | most of those community goals don't really apply to packaging and deployment projects | 14:27 |
| toabctl | reviews are fixed in the view (but adding links would be nice but would need a changeset) | 14:27 |
| cmurphy | python3 goal was about running ci tests with python3 | 14:28 |
| dirk | toabctl: thanks! | 14:28 |
| cmurphy | which we actually did accomplish mostly by switching basepython=python3 in tox.ini | 14:28 |
| cmurphy | i don't think the upgrade check really applies to us either | 14:29 |
| dirk | yeah and no | 14:31 |
| cmurphy | if there was something we needed to act on the goal champion would let us know | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: neutron-lib: Update to 1.24.0 https://review.openstack.org/639678 | 14:32 |
| dirk | cmurphy: right, my point is being only passive is not a good reason for being in the project. | 14:33 |
| cmurphy | is it a good reason to not be in the project? | 14:34 |
| cmurphy | i think having an openstack-sanctioned place to collaborate on packaging is a good thing for the community | 14:36 |
| dirk | I agree with that, there are projects where being part of the invite list is all that matters | 14:36 |
| dirk | in technical contributions I think saying you're in also gives you responsibility to do something about it | 14:36 |
| dirk | any my personal feeling was taht I'm not doing that | 14:36 |
| dirk | not saying a nother ptl wouldn't be doing that better ;) | 14:37 |
| cmurphy | maybe it's something to bring up to the tc for advice | 14:38 |
| dirk | I am not sure I can follow ? ;) | 14:42 |
| dirk | anyway, I'll talk to you about it outside the meeting | 14:42 |
| dirk | anything else? | 14:42 |
| dirk | would like to close the meeting for today | 14:42 |
| cmurphy | not from me | 14:42 |
| dirk | #endmeeting | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging - Regular IRC Meeting Wednesdays 1:00 PM UTC in openstack-rpm-packaging" | 14:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 27 14:42:55 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-02-27-13.37.html | 14:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-02-27-13.37.txt | 14:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2019/rpm_packaging.2019-02-27-13.37.log.html | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-resource-classes: Update to 0.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/639688 | 15:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-traits: Update to 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/639689 | 15:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: Remove explict sed for doc build warnings https://review.openstack.org/507210 | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-brick: Update to 2.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/639691 | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-service-types: Update to 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/639692 | 15:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-vif: Update to 1.15.0 https://review.openstack.org/639696 | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-win: Update to 4.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/639701 | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: oslo.db: Update to 4.44.0 https://review.openstack.org/639706 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: openstackdocstheme: Update to 1.29.1 https://review.openstack.org/624935 | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: oslo.policy: Update to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/639708 | 15:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: pbr: Update to 5.1.2 https://review.openstack.org/639710 | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: oslo.utils: Update to 3.40.2 https://review.openstack.org/639712 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: pycadf: Update to 2.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/639714 | 15:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: oslo.utils: Update to 3.40.2 https://review.openstack.org/639712 | 16:09 |
| jpena | toabctl: I think I know why mistral is failing to build in https://review.openstack.org/609316. We're building an old version (7.0.0.0b1), and it fails when we use the cachetools from the current upper-constraints (3.1.0, which is what we have in the RDO CentOS CI). We have an older version in Fedora (2.something), which works fine | 16:39 |
| jpena | is there any reason why we're not moving to 8.0.0.0b1? | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging stable/rocky: magnum-tempest-plugin: Fix skipping of tests https://review.openstack.org/639609 | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-win: Update to 4.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/639701 | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-vif: Update to 1.15.0 https://review.openstack.org/639696 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-service-types: Update to 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/639692 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-brick: Update to 2.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/639691 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-traits: Update to 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/639689 | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/rpm-packaging master: os-resource-classes: Update to 0.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/639688 | 18:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: openstackdocstheme: Update to 1.29.1 https://review.openstack.org/624935 | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: mistral: Update to 7.0.4 https://review.openstack.org/639772 | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: nova: Add missing Requires/BuildRequires https://review.openstack.org/639773 | 18:49 |
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