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| evrardjp | oh yes I should totally give a few more words then | 12:39 |
| evrardjp | let me finish something up real quick | 12:39 |
| evrardjp | so we have multiple options | 12:43 |
| evrardjp | they are mentioned here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/victoria-leaderless | 12:44 |
| evrardjp | let's start with option 5, going down to option 1 | 12:44 |
| evrardjp | option 5 (=moving out of openstack), would mean that for future branches, we'll just remove all the content with a README saying "this has been archived". | 12:45 |
| evrardjp | on the master HEAD | 12:45 |
| evrardjp | the regular branches stay the same. | 12:45 |
| evrardjp | Deprecating the team would mean that you need to deprecate all your deliverables. Said differently: If you want to deprecate partially, you're still a team, so you still need to follow our processes | 12:46 |
| evrardjp | so I have the impression option 5 doesn't bring you much, but is a good path forward if there will not be more involvment forward | 12:47 |
| evrardjp | option 4 (=ptl-less) is yet to be defined. We'll need to make sure the project has some liaisons. it's basically an experiment to not have ptls but the rest stays the same | 12:48 |
| evrardjp | option 3 (=consolidate with existing SIG) sound unrealistic, not sure which SIG would you group with | 12:51 |
| evrardjp | option 2(=SIG) means you would need to create a SIG, with one or multiple chairs. You don't need a PTL anymore. You're not an expected part of the release. But that's already the case, since rpm-packaging as no openstack service, only _independent libraries, and tagless code. | 12:52 |
| evrardjp | option 1(=ptl volunteer), the TC assigns you someone to be ptl. | 12:52 |
| evrardjp | I wanted to dig into 5 or 2 for you. | 12:52 |
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| toabctl | option5 means downstream work to adjust scripts. I'm not in favor of that. | 13:02 |
| toabctl | option1 sounds good. let's just be somebody PTL ;) | 13:03 |
| evrardjp | toabctl: depends on the usage of master ofc | 13:10 |
| evrardjp | but the repos wouldn't change on stable branches | 13:10 |
| evrardjp | toabctl: do you volunteer? | 13:10 |
| toabctl | no | 13:10 |
| evrardjp | haha | 13:10 |
| evrardjp | I tried. | 13:11 |
| evrardjp | so let me rephrase, if there is no volunteer, the TC will chose for you, and it could be what you won't like :p | 13:11 |
| evrardjp | so it's probably better to take action here | 13:12 |
| rpittau | what's the issue not having a PTL (so option 4) ? | 13:14 |
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| evrardjp | no issue, it just "doesn't exist yet" | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | so it means efforts need to be in governance first | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | but the long story short is that we'll have to define a full list of liaisons for the project, and define them somewhere. | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | (release is already settled, but the rest, like security, would need clarification, IMO) | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | under a SIG we can assume the chairs will take that duty | 16:23 |
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| dirk | evrardjp: it seems the vote in that etherpad is 5 | 17:46 |
| dirk | I would vote for 4 | 17:46 |
| dirk | But t don't know what I am signing up for | 17:46 |
| dirk | I also don't know what 5 means | 17:46 |
| dirk | If it means no ATC, then that's good | 17:47 |
| dirk | If it means all URL change our it gets kicked out of opendev infra then that's inconvenient | 17:47 |
| dirk | Want me to comment in the etherpad directly? | 17:48 |
| dirk | did so now | 18:07 |
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