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| zbr | hello everyone! | 08:40 |
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| zbr | i have a question, how/where can I publish some yum repositories for libpod, ones that we build from their master branch? | 08:41 |
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| dirk | zbr: hey, maybe wrong channel? libpod is not maintained by the openstack-rpm-packaging folks | 12:08 |
| dirk | or are you asking in general how to publish rpm repositories? | 12:08 |
| dirk | jpena|lunch: toabctl: evrardjp: when do we want to have the spontaneous rpm-packaging meeting today? | 12:08 |
| evrardjp | at the usual time? | 12:10 |
| zbr | we were investigating ways to build/test/publish never versions of libpod for use in openstack, so we can test them before they break us. | 12:10 |
| evrardjp | dirk: that's 3:30pm for you and I, if I am not mistaken | 12:10 |
| dirk | yes, correct | 12:10 |
| dirk | ok, I have a hard stop after 25 min however, but I can be there. | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | if people have prepared, it shouldn't take long I guess? :) | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | but I am also available this afternoon before that. I just need reshuffling | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | depends on toabctl and jpena|lunch 's presence | 12:12 |
| evrardjp | I guess | 12:12 |
| dirk | yep | 12:13 |
| dirk | thats why I talk early and often (and too much) | 12:13 |
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| evrardjp | there is such thing as too much communication, but I am not sure you're there yet. :p | 12:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Flávio Ramalho proposed openstack/rpm-packaging stable/rocky: neutron-tempest-plugin: add patch for fixing test_external_network_extension https://review.opendev.org/728069 | 12:46 |
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| jpena | I'm around, so happy to start the meeting a bit earlier if needed | 13:06 |
| evrardjp | oki doki, is toabctl around? | 13:09 |
| evrardjp | or are there other people that want to participate in this? | 13:09 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 13:29 |
| jpena | ok, it's meeting time... Let's start and see if we can gather enough quorum | 13:30 |
| jpena | #startmeeting rpm_packaging | 13:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 14 13:30:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:30 | |
| jpena | ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, jpena, number80, kaslcrof, cmurphy, rha | 13:30 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' | 13:30 |
| jpena | #chair evrardjp dirk | 13:30 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dirk evrardjp jpena | 13:30 |
| jpena | #topic roll call | 13:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:30 | |
| evrardjp | o/ | 13:30 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 13:30 |
| jpena | we have a pretty short agenda, please feel free to extend it at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging | 13:30 |
| jpena | #chair cmurphy | 13:30 |
| openstack | Current chairs: cmurphy dirk evrardjp jpena | 13:30 |
| dirk | o/ | 13:31 |
| evrardjp | seems there are a few people around | 13:31 |
| evrardjp | that's good :) | 13:31 |
| jpena | let's start with the agenda | 13:34 |
| jpena | #topic PTL situatio | 13:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL situatio (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:34 | |
| jpena | #undo | 13:34 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic PTL situatio | 13:34 |
| jpena | #topic PTL situation | 13:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTL situation (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:34 | |
| jpena | evrardjp: the stage is yours | 13:34 |
| evrardjp | thank you | 13:34 |
| evrardjp | I would like to close that topic: Currently the state of rpm-packaging, in terms of governance, is "Appointment needed" | 13:34 |
| evrardjp | Who have discussed the multiple possibilities in the past | 13:35 |
| evrardjp | I would like us to come to a conclusion | 13:35 |
| evrardjp | For me, the simplest is to have a PTL. So my question is ... "Who can become the next PTL, even if not confident about being able to hold the position for the next 6 months?" | 13:36 |
| dirk | I nominate evrardjp as PTL | 13:36 |
| jpena | is the PTL-less option feasible? I mean, I've seen discussions about it for quite some time, but it's never been clear to me | 13:36 |
| jpena | we could be a good team to experiment with that | 13:37 |
| evrardjp | some TC/ex-TC members think it might _not be_ a good team to experiment with that, but it's something we could try to figure out | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | The problem is that we'll need to add some folks into liaisons anyway | 13:38 |
| jpena | which I think might be easier that committing to be PTL | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | so let's say we go for it, who is ready to be the liaisons for security/events? | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | does it? | 13:38 |
| jpena | dunno, it's just a feeling | 13:38 |
| evrardjp | dirk: nice maneuver :) | 13:39 |
| jpena | which liasons do we need? Security/events, release... | 13:39 |
| evrardjp | correct | 13:39 |
| evrardjp | It could be more, but these are the ones I foresee in the short future. | 13:40 |
| evrardjp | So I assume that nobody is willing to be PTL? | 13:41 |
| evrardjp | What's holding people up to be the PTL? | 13:41 |
| jpena | I'm happy to be liason... and might be a PTL for another cycle as a last resort, but we'd only be pushing the ball forward for 6 more months | 13:41 |
| evrardjp | I think that's what we are looking for. | 13:42 |
| dirk | evrardjp: I'm happy to be the liason for whatever | 13:42 |
| dirk | evrardjp: I just can't be the benevolent PTL | 13:42 |
| evrardjp | jpena: what about the TC appoints you for PTL, and we start the process of PTL-less ing | 13:42 |
| jpena | evrardjp: ok, let's give that a try | 13:43 |
| dirk | jpena: thank you! | 13:43 |
| evrardjp | thank you jpena :) | 13:43 |
| dirk | within 6 months we should have clearance how things will move forward. and if not we end it there | 13:43 |
| dirk | evrardjp: I can help with liasons etc whatever. | 13:43 |
| evrardjp | dirk: I think if you hadn't renderspec and pymod2pkg it would change things, tbh | 13:43 |
| dirk | to be honest we've been pretty lightweight on the openstack foundation | 13:43 |
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| evrardjp | yes | 13:43 |
| evrardjp | totally | 13:43 |
| evrardjp | and that makes it a very special case | 13:44 |
| dirk | so its not like we're not there, we are there | 13:44 |
| dirk | and we're not asking for much | 13:44 |
| evrardjp | What I don't like is the fact that community has been balanced around | 13:44 |
| dirk | so I understand that if openstack wants to reduce scope, then I'm not in the way of that | 13:44 |
| evrardjp | exactly | 13:44 |
| evrardjp | well | 13:44 |
| evrardjp | it's not only that | 13:44 |
| dirk | but I think just changing for the sake of changing makes no sense imho | 13:44 |
| evrardjp | we just chose the thing where _nothing_ changes :) | 13:45 |
| dirk | yep | 13:45 |
| dirk | great!! | 13:45 |
| dirk | next | 13:45 |
| dirk | :-) | 13:45 |
| evrardjp | but you're right. | 13:45 |
| evrardjp | yeah, I am done! | 13:45 |
| evrardjp | thanks all. | 13:45 |
| dirk | #agreed jpena to run PTL for 6 months to figure out how PTL less works | 13:46 |
| jpena | nice, moving on with the agenda then | 13:46 |
| jpena | #topic ussuri branch | 13:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ussuri branch (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:46 | |
| dirk | yesterday (?) we created stable/ussuri | 13:47 |
| dirk | I have started putting the plumbing in place for SUSE ci | 13:47 |
| dirk | Its not quite there yet, will fix this over the next few days | 13:47 |
| jpena | which reminds me I need to create the CI job for DO | 13:47 |
| dirk | any help as usual is appreciated | 13:47 |
| jpena | the base repos are already created | 13:48 |
| jpena | #info stable/ussuri branch created | 13:52 |
| jpena | #info SUSE and RDO CIs for stable/ussuri coming soon | 13:52 |
| jpena | I think that's it for this topic, let's move on | 13:54 |
| jpena | #topic open floor | 13:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open floor (Meeting topic: rpm_packaging)" | 13:54 | |
| dirk | nothing from my side | 13:56 |
| evrardjp | pretty silent, so I suppose nothing from the side of others:p | 13:57 |
| evrardjp | thank you everyone | 13:57 |
| jpena | thanks | 13:57 |
| jpena | let's close the meeting and run to the next one :) | 13:57 |
| jpena | #endmeeting | 13:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging - Regular IRC Meeting Thursdays 13:30 PM UTC in openstack-rpm-packaging" | 13:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 14 13:57:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2020/rpm_packaging.2020-05-14-13.30.html | 13:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2020/rpm_packaging.2020-05-14-13.30.txt | 13:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rpm_packaging/2020/rpm_packaging.2020-05-14-13.30.log.html | 13:57 |
| evrardjp | jpena: here is your appointment: #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728088/ | 13:58 |
| jpena | evrardjp: that was fast :) | 13:58 |
| evrardjp | haha it will take at least a week to get merged, don't worry :p | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/rpm-packaging master: Lockdown /bin/ip permissions for the monasca-agent https://review.opendev.org/726406 | 18:52 |
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