Monday, 2014-03-31

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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Clean up  sqlachemy session usage  https://review.openstack.org/8404101:48
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Clean up  sqlachemy session usage  https://review.openstack.org/8404103:33
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8271906:06
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Clean up  sqlachemy session usage  https://review.openstack.org/8404108:40
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themistymayGood morning/evening!10:44
themistymaySergeyLukjanov, ping10:45
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SergeyLukjanovthemistymay, morning ;)11:23
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SergeyLukjanovdmitryme volunteered to update installation guide12:12
dmitrymeSergeyLukjanov: yep, I am doing it right now12:13
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SergeyLukjanovmattf, jspeidel, re removing auto-creation of db12:24
SergeyLukjanov+ dmitryme ^^12:24
SergeyLukjanovso, the issue is that we support db migrations and we should disable db auto-creation from metadata (w/o migrations)12:24
openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Fix default repo links and tarball links for IDH  https://review.openstack.org/8411812:25
SergeyLukjanovbecause "create db from meta" != "create db using from migrations in 100% cases"12:25
SergeyLukjanovdmitryme explained this issue well in https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/130019012:26
dmitrymeI actually didn't put a point about difference in table creation into the bug, I think it is not needed12:27
dmitrymewe simply don't need two ways to create DB12:27
SergeyLukjanovcurrent approach was already approved months ago in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68631/2/savanna/main.py12:29
SergeyLukjanovdmitryme, ++12:29
SergeyLukjanovso, it's a bug of the applying migrations support12:29
SergeyLukjanovmattf, jspeidel, ^^12:30
openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/sahara: [IDH] Integration tests for IDH 3.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/7971912:31
openstackgerritSergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Fix db management: don't autocreate db on start  https://review.openstack.org/8275012:33
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mattfSergeyLukjanov, dmitryme, i know users and docs will have to be changed if you proceed. i'd like to know what the downside is of leaving the code as is and waiting until after feature freeze to fix/clean it up.13:00
dmitrymemattf: we actually already did this a couple month ago, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68631/2/savanna/main.py13:03
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dmitrymethe problem is that we did creation from metadata in one more place13:03
dmitrymewhich is fixed by Sergey's current patch set13:03
dmitrymeBTW the need to manually create DB is already covered in docs13:04
dmitrymesee http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/userdoc/installation.guide.html13:04
dmitrymehere we ask user to call sahara-db-manage during the installation13:04
mattfdmitryme, only for the venv case13:05
dmitrymeaha, you mean we forgot to make the change to the RDO part, right?13:06
mattfmy position is we're in feature freeze and should not be making semantic changes unless they solve a blocking bug, one that prevents users from using sahara.13:06
mattfi agree this is something that should be resolved. i simply question the urgency of it.13:07
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mattfdmitryme, the rdo bits definitely need to change. do the fuel?13:07
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aignatovmattf: as I currently see installation procedures via Fuel in our docs, the procedures will be the same :)13:10
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dmitrymemattf: we need to remove db creation from metadata anyway: once DB is created from metadata, it could not be migrated with alembic. I.e. such users will be stuck with Icehouse release13:11
elmikoso, who's ready for some documentation! :D13:12
dmitrymeelmiko: I already work on installation13:12
crobertsrhI am going to look at the dashboard docs right now.13:13
dmitrymeguys: don't forget to mention on which part of the docs you work in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/update-docs-icehouse13:14
elmikodmitryme, crobertsrh, awesome! i'll update the blueprint if it hasn't been already13:14
dmitrymeotherwise we will end up fixing the same things13:14
dmitrymeand a word of warning: after you edit the work items, refresh the page and make sure your changes are there. The thing is if two people simultaneously update the items, the last one wins :-)13:16
mattfdmitryme, not being able to upgrade is the kind of information i'm looking for that could justify the urgency13:17
elmikodmitryme: thanks13:17
dmitrymemattf: right, I think that matters13:17
aignatovelmiko: I will change heat related stuff13:18
aignatovin the docs13:18
dmitrymeBTW I am going to write a new page, which describes which configuration parameters user should change in a simple case (both for Sahara and Sahara Dashboard)13:20
elmikoaignatov: ack13:20
dmitrymefrom my experience I see that we have rather big amount of parameters and their meaning is not obvious13:20
elmikodmitryme: sounds good, i'll add new work items for the config parameters and the heat related stuff13:22
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aignatovfolks, do we plan to add new pages or only updates of existing ones?13:40
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elmikoit sounds like dmitryme is going to add a new page13:41
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dmitrymeelmiko: I do13:47
dmitrymeaignatov: see several lines above ^^13:47
aignatovdmitryme: lol, I have to visit oculist13:48
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tmckayelmiko, forgot to open pidgin and join the fun :)  What's on tap for doc day?14:08
tmckayelmiko, where to begin?14:08
elmikohttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/update-docs-icehouse , pick something that looks fun :)14:08
tmckayokey doke14:09
elmikotmckay: just be sure to update the blueprint or give me a heads up and i'll update it14:11
tmckayelmiko, rename Savanna to Sahara -- what is that?  A note about the rename, or looking for Savanna instances still in the docs?14:12
elmikoi was wondering that too, i think we need to ask SergeyLukjanov. there are only a few url references to savanna left, and the python-django-savanna package.14:12
elmikoSergeyLukjanov: ping14:13
tmckayOkay, I can work on REST api docs I suppose, and make sure everything there is still accurate.  URLs, data passed in/out, etc14:14
elmikosounds good!14:14
ErikB1Is there way to indicate which items that you sign up for in  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/update-docs-icehouse14:16
ErikB1I will take the HDP items14:16
elmikoErikB1: if you can't edit the blueprint just give me a note and i'll put your name there14:16
dmitrymeErikB1: you can do that by editing Work Items14:16
ErikB1ok14:16
dmitrymeErikB1, tmckay: note after you edit the work items, refresh the page and make sure your changes are there. The thing is if two people simultaneously update the items, only the changes of the last one apply14:17
ErikB1dmitryme, thanks. I won.14:18
dmitryme:-)14:18
ErikB1Also, I would like to pull out capabilities of various plugins and stick into a separate table vs. sprinkling info through out docs.14:19
elmikoErikB1: sounds good, are you going to create a new page?14:19
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ErikB1elmiko, I was going to stick it at the bottom of the features page.14:20
elmikook, cool14:20
dmitrymeErikB1: sounds good to me as well14:20
openstackgerritAlexander Ignatov proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Heat docs update  https://review.openstack.org/8414314:22
aignatovelmiko: I've have started docs update bp :)14:22
elmiko:)14:22
aignatov^^14:22
ErikB1I see, manual 2PC14:22
elmikoi'm going to take a look at the "Setting Up a Development Environment" page14:23
ErikB1Does anyone know why the Horizon/Grizzly stable branch is no longer?14:23
tmckayaignatov, hi.  Are you getting emails from OpenStack about summit?  I got one today ... it says if we have a demo, we should notify our speaker manager immediately (not sure why)14:26
aignatovtmckay: who is exact sender of this mail?14:27
* tmckay pms14:28
dmitrymeErikB1: I think that is because there is no development at all on this version14:28
dmitrymeErikB1: you will find Grizzly and older versions in tags14:29
ErikB1dmitryme, tags?14:29
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dmitrymeare you looking at Horizon through github web UI?14:29
ErikB1dmitryme, yes. I a see now that it's not just Horizon but also all other components14:30
dmitrymeErikB1: when you click on branch, there are two tabs in the pop-up: "Branches" and "Tags"14:31
tmckayelmiko and friends, so if we are testing code against docs, the current tip of master is what we want to use, yes?14:31
tmckayaignatov, ^^14:31
elmikotmckay: i guess so?14:31
dmitrymetmckay: that is my thinking as well14:31
tmckayelmiko, ;-) Heavy is the head that wears the crown14:31
elmikolol14:32
tmckaydmitryme, thanks14:32
ErikB1dmitryme,  I see it now. Thanks.14:32
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elmikoif i want to create a review for this blueprint, do i use the partial-implements and a new change-id?15:19
crobertsrhtmckay:  Is it true that JobExecution no longer returns the job configs?15:23
tmckaycrobertsrh, yes.15:24
crobertsrhdoh!15:24
tmckayThere could be credentials in there15:24
crobertsrhwas that intentional?15:24
tmckaycrobertsrh, do you need them?15:24
crobertsrhThe "relaunch" functionality requires that info15:24
tmckayoh no15:24
crobertsrhI just went to relaunch a job and noticed :(15:25
crobertsrhI'm guessing it's unlikely that the config info will return since it seems to be a security concern?15:26
tmckaycrobertsrh, hmmm.  The trouble is we need more sophisticated screening to get rid of credential values.  It's possible.  dmitryme and I talked about a custom filter function15:26
tmckayaignatov, SergeyLukjanov, filtering job_configs broke relaunch ^^  oops15:27
toskyquick question not related with documentation: I restarted my system (devstack-based) and I rejoined the stack.15:27
toskyThere was an active cluster, after the restart (of the system and of openstack) the VM instances are in the "shutdown" state, but the cluster is still marked "active"15:28
crobertsrhIt also kinda cripples the Job Execution details page....it would show any job config before (now currently not "broken", but that part is empty)15:28
toskywouldn't be better to mark it as "inactive" with a button for restarting the instances (*) in such a cases?15:29
IvanBerezovskiymattf, could you please take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83062/ ?15:29
tosky(*) maybe a bit complicated, as the instances states could be not the same15:29
tmckaycrobertsrh, definitely unintended consequences, apologies.  I think we have to do something better.  Fixing a "bug" and removing functionality seems like a bad idea to me15:31
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tmckaymaybe the custom filter function is the way to go in this case15:31
crobertsrhWhat would the "custom filter" solution look like?15:32
tmckayhere is the review for the change, btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82883/15:32
crobertsrhdoh, looks like I picked the wrong CR to not review15:33
tmckaycrobertsrh, instead of just using the blanket "_filter_fields" param, the code that applies the filter_field when generating the wrapped dict would check the class for a custom filter method and run that15:33
tmckaycrobertsrh, JobExecution would effectively descend through it's own fields.  In the case of job_configs we'd have to do something like check for the strings "username" and "password"15:34
crobertsrhI suspect that the relaunch would still be broken if any data were left out though.  If a job required a username/password and we can't supply that on relaunch, we're still probably toast.15:35
tmckaycrobertsrh, the only credentials we have at the moment really are swift credentias, but being smart about how to find credentials in general could be tricky.  We could produce a "blacklist" of key names, I suppose15:35
crobertsrhUnless maybe the filtered code could give us a hint that something is missing....we could probably prompt the user for it at relaunch-time in that case15:35
tmckaycrobertsrh, the usr/passw comes from the data sources, generally15:36
crobertsrhright15:36
tmckayand it's filled on when the workflow xml is generated.  So I think it might still work ...15:36
crobertsrhWe're probably ok if it's just data source15:36
crobertsrhthose get re-chosen at re-launch time and don't require the user to know the credentials15:37
tmckay"args" on a Java action is harder -- that could be anything, and we have no way to know whether or not to screen those15:37
crobertsrhYeah, args is where we'd fall on our face15:37
tmckaywe might need a "hide args" button15:37
tmckaywhich voluntarily says you have to respecify on relaunch15:38
tmckaycrobertsrh, we went for the easy fix for the bug since we were in feature freeze.  But, it's not right.15:38
elmikoi'm looking at the docs for setting up a dev environment, and it mentions using devstack. currently devstack does not run sahara by default, i'm thinking about adding a note here about enabling it in local.conf, is that appropriate or should i redirect to the devstack docs?15:39
tmckaycrobertsrh, if you want to test without it you can remove job configs in filter_fields for JobExecution.  Maybe I can come up with a custom filter solution with low impact15:39
crobertsrh"need to respecify args" might be fine.  If the dashboard can know that args (or whatever) was filtered out, we can prompt for whatever to be entered again.  Not totally ideal, but might be reasonable.15:39
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tmckaydmitryme, ^^ the job_configs filter broke relaunch from the UI15:40
crobertsrhI might do that so I can mention it in the docs15:40
tmckaydmitryme, unintended side effect.  Maybe we need your custom filter idea after all15:40
dmitrymetmckay: I'd rather do release without fix and make fix with custom filter after that15:41
crobertsrhideally (imho), when something gets filtered out, there would be some note/value indicating that X was filtered out in the response.15:41
tmckaydmitryme, I agree, that might be better.  I think we need some core member votes here.15:42
dmitrymecrobertsrh: hmm, nice idea15:42
tmckaycrobertsrh, yeah, like "key: <hidden>" or something15:42
crobertsrhYeah, that would make the raw json more honest.15:43
crobertsrh"oh, we know the value....we just won't tell YOU"15:43
dmitrymecrobertsrh: I think we will have two kind of fields we don't want to show:15:44
tmckaycrobertsrh, do you want to post a high priority bug referencing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82883/2 and say that I busted relaunch?  That should garner some attention15:44
dmitryme1. provided by user - these should be masked15:44
crobertsrhI can do that15:44
dmitryme2. internal fields which do not make sense for users, like cluster 'extra' field15:44
dmitrymethe fields of the second type still should be just dropped15:44
tmckayin the case of credentials in job executions, they are #2 I think, since they were copied from data sources15:47
crobertsrhhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/130029115:48
tmckaythe trouble is, we need a map somewhere that identifies which fields are which types15:48
aignatovSergeyLukjanov and folks, we don't to confirm docs update patches with sahara-ci voting, right?15:52
elmikoaignatov: does the sahara-ci do any doc generation to make sure we haven't broken it?15:54
tmckaycrobertsrh, dmitryme, the other way to take care of this particular issue is to move swift credentials out of job_configs and store them somewhere else.  But, that's a big change too (including a database change).  If the swift credentials were in other fields they could be excluded15:54
aignatovelmiko: nope, it did docs building in the past15:54
tmckayand also _mattf wants to address storage of credentials in the db at all15:54
aignatovbut now it is cancelled15:54
elmikoaignatov: yea, then it probably doesn't matter if we have sahara-ci voting or not15:55
aignatovelmiko: right, anyway, OpenStack Jenkins does docs generation, we should rely on it :)15:55
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elmikoaignatov: definitely15:57
elmikoaignatov: if i create a review against this blueprint, do i need to use the partial-implements keyword in the commit comment?16:01
aignatovI think yes, it will add review link to the bp whiteboard16:02
elmikook, i just want to make sure i'm not going to squash another review16:03
aignatovotherwise you'll see -1 from someone asking you to use this statement in the commit message  :\16:03
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tmckayaignatov, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1300291?  I think we should decide relatively quickly what to do -- revert, or make something smarter :)16:22
aignatovhow much efforts would require smart filtering?16:25
tmckayaignatov, haven't tried yet, but dimitryme I think pointed to the right solution.  I think maybe a day to develop and test, make sure nothing else breaks?16:26
tmckayaignatov, for now, I think it would have to be by key name -- we would have to look for things we know, like fs.swift.service.sahara.... etc16:27
tmckayaignatov, basically invoke a custom method where _filter_fields is applied16:27
openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating dashboard user guide doc for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8416916:28
openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating dashboard user guide doc for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8416916:30
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openstackgerritChad Roberts proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating dashboard user guide doc for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8416916:31
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aignatov tmckay, reverting that fix leads to security considerations.... So I think we need do not revert this16:32
tmckayaignatov, okay.  I'll see if I can make something better that will not break crobertsrh.  After doc day.16:33
aignatovtmckay: great16:33
tmckayaignatov, our concern the first time was limiting impact :)  I guess we missed, lol16:35
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aignatovheh16:45
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elmikothere are still a few open tasks for the doc effort, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/update-docs-icehouse16:58
elmikojust a friendly reminder :)16:58
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/sahara: Add EDP integration tests for vanilla 2 plugin  https://review.openstack.org/8273316:58
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tmckayaignatov, this might be a tiny bug.  Looking through the REST api, if I ask for the vanilla plug version 1.2.1, when the reply is sent back it says "versions: [2.3.0, 1.2.1]"  Is that on purpose?  I notice that configs, node_processes, and image_tags are selected by version but the "version" field is not modified in the response.17:11
tmckayaignatov, also, the response can be really, really big :)  I think the json in the REST doc is shortened.  Maybe I should add a note that says "by the way, this can be really really big"17:12
elmikois there documentation for the version of reStructured Text we are using?17:25
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elmikoi'm curious, would it be worth it to add a section to the development environment doc about setting up a Sahara install outside of DevStack?17:45
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crobertsrhelmiko:  I think the extra section is a fine idea18:10
elmikoi'll see if i can put something together that makes sense18:12
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elmikothe only thing that i think is difficult about setting up sahara outside devstack is that getting the dashboard integration can be tricky, but i guess if you are just testing sahara then you don't really need dashboard.18:15
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elmikowhat is the syntax for partial-implements, is it "Partial-Implements", "Partial-implements", "Partial-implement", or something else?18:31
elmikoah,nvm. got it out of crobertsrh commit :)18:32
crobertsrhIt always seems awkward to me18:33
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420618:36
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420618:48
crobertsrhon the docs blueprint, what is the "Rename Savanna to Sahara" item?18:57
elmikostill not sure about that, it's a SergeyLukjanov question. the only references i see to savanna are in links.18:57
elmikoand the python-django-savanna package18:57
elmikoiirc, he was out today though18:59
SergeyLukjanovcrobertsrh, it's just a reminder that we should check it18:59
elmikomaybe not :)18:59
SergeyLukjanovelmiko, ^^18:59
crobertsrhHe is never really out :)18:59
elmikoperma-lurk18:59
* SergeyLukjanov feeling bad today and many meetings, so, a big lag19:00
crobertsrhI think his collar gets a small shock each time an IRC message goes unanswered.19:00
SergeyLukjanovheh ;)19:00
SergeyLukjanovjust unpleasant bip from client19:01
SergeyLukjanovbeep*19:01
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crobertsrhtmckay:  Looks like better exceptions in horizon is also on the mind of others... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76479/19:16
tmckaycrobertsrh, hurray for better errors19:18
tmckayDoctor:  "You're sick.  Really, really, sick.  Have a nice day"19:18
tmckay"Maybe come back tomorrow and you'll be better"19:19
tmckaybrb19:19
elmikolol19:23
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420619:51
openstackgerritSergey Reshetnyak proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Fix check avtive nodemanagers for vanilla 2 plugin  https://review.openstack.org/8422819:51
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420619:53
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420619:54
elmikodamn whitespace...19:54
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updating the setup development environment docs for icehouse  https://review.openstack.org/8420620:13
elmikowe still have a few open items at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/update-docs-icehouse , looking for any takers :)20:15
crobertsrhI'd be happy to help someone with them (review, etc), but I'm afraid that I'm probably not much of a guide for the remaining topics.20:18
tmckaycrobertsrh, just playing with job-executions to confirm the docs.  The swift credentials are visible from a running job anyway, even without job_configs20:22
tmckaydmitryme, aignatov, ^^, last comment.  It's a bigger fish to fry than we thought.20:22
tmckaysign20:22
tmckaysigh, that is20:23
tmckayCriminals20:23
crobertsrhwhere are you seeing them?20:23
tmckayI pasted an example.  A running job shows Oozie job record content.  the config section is displayed20:23
tmckaythe swift credentials are passed via config to the running job20:24
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crobertsrhI never saw the paste (still don't see it).  That does sounds like a larger fish fry is in order though.20:24
tmckayhmm, paste should be there20:25
crobertsrhoh...duh...20:25
tmckayhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1300291/comments/220:25
crobertsrhpasted in the bug :)20:25
tmckaysorry, ambiguous20:25
crobertsrhI was looking back on IRC...I see it now20:25
tmckayso now we start getting into descending into various levels and obscuring stuff.  Recursive scrub.  But, what about the Oozie console itself?  Anyone who can get to that can see the same thing.20:26
tmckayUnless there is a way to password protect the Console20:26
crobertsrhYes.20:26
crobertsrhYes, I agree....not "yes, you can protect oozie console"...I have no idea there20:27
tmckayWhen we looked at this the first time, I must have only hit a pending job without the extra content, so I missed it.  Pretty much a fail all around.20:27
crobertsrhYou can probably disable it20:27
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tmckayI suppose we can scrub the "info" field20:29
tmckaystatus is probably necessary, a few other things.  conf probably is not20:30
tmckayhave to look and see what sahara and python-saharaclient look at (and maybe you can look at what the UI touches crobertsrh)20:30
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Check that all po/pot files are valid  https://review.openstack.org/8423620:32
tmckayelmiko, we okay with doc day bleeding over to Tuesday?20:57
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Update REST api docs  https://review.openstack.org/8424920:57
elmikotmckay: i think we'll have to be, there are some docs that need attention from people with more experience20:57
tmckay:)20:57
tmckayokay20:57
elmikowe've got several underway, and a few that are done pending review20:58
tmckayelmiko, I think the REST stuff is generally done.  Might need another tweak depending on what we do for filtering20:58
elmikook20:59
tmckaydoh, I have typo in my changes21:01
crobertsrhdoh, I missed the type-o and +1'ed it anyway21:02
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Update REST api docs  https://review.openstack.org/8424921:02
openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Update REST api docs  https://review.openstack.org/8424921:03
tmckayheh21:04
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openstackgerritTrevor McKay proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Update REST api docs  https://review.openstack.org/8424921:06
tmckaydoh, and messed up the commit message21:06
tmckayI think I got it now21:06
tmckayelmiko, I signed up for migrations.  I've added a couple, I think I can take a stab at it21:10
tmckaybut I'll need reviewers21:10
elmikocool, thanks21:10
tmckayI'll poke at it tomorrow21:10
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