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| tmckay | Hi all. Trying to launch an hdp 2.0.6 cluster, it's in "Waiting" with active instances so I may be all right. But, in case it fails, does anyone have a list handy of the node processes for master/worker I need for HDP 2.0.6 for a cluster that can run Java and Pig actions? Not too familiar with HDP layout. | 14:25 |
| tmckay | thanks to elmiko, in another window http://elmiko.github.io/openstack/sahara/2014/04/24/centos-hdp2-cluster-creation-debug-notes.html | 14:27 |
| tmckay | aignatov, taking another run through slides for spelling, etc. Tell me, if I want to add a slide or two to introduce the demo, can I do it right from the share? | 14:45 |
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| tmckay | so my first attempt at a Java action failed, but I left out mapreduce2client on the workers. Hoping that was the issue. 2nd call for node process lists for HDP 2.0.6 cluster that can run Java/Pig. | 15:56 |
| tmckay | aignatov, ping, you there? | 15:59 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: hey | 16:19 |
| aignatov | feel free to update slides | 16:19 |
| aignatov | :) | 16:19 |
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| tmckay | aignatov, yeah, adding some demo intro slides | 16:19 |
| tmckay | aignatov, I have 1 feedback item after review (copied from email I was going to send you) | 16:20 |
| aignatov | if you thihnk that those slides will help for your spech adding new slides is strongly recommended :) | 16:20 |
| tmckay | - Supported job types, slide 12: | 16:20 |
| tmckay | Currently says "Jar", "Hive", "Pig". | 16:20 |
| tmckay | Should this say Java, MapReduce, Streaming MapReduce, Hive, and Pig? Also, do we want to claim Hive? Maybe with an asterisk, since it only works on vanilla 1.2.1 as far as I know. | 16:20 |
| tmckay | Yeah, just an intro, then we can switch to the web browser | 16:21 |
| aignatov | if it works even in 1.2.1 that we can say that Sahara suports it :) | 16:21 |
| aignatov | as for MapReduce different types I will fix that, thx | 16:22 |
| tmckay | aignatov, okay. And "Jar" should be "Java" if we want to align with the pulldowns :) | 16:23 |
| tmckay | aignatov, do you like my 2 demo slides? Anything else you think I should add? | 16:24 |
| tmckay | aignatov, and any expertise you have about EDP on hdp 2.0.6 is welcome. So far, my jobs fail. | 16:25 |
| tmckay | I may have to use vanilla | 16:25 |
| aignatov | tmckay: use vanilla! | 16:25 |
| aignatov | :) | 16:25 |
| tmckay | aignatov, what would be really cool, if I can make it work, is to run on vanilla, then use relaunch to run the same job on hdp :) | 16:26 |
| tmckay | That would be great. | 16:26 |
| aignatov | yes, but do yuo think you’ll have a time to do all of that? | 16:27 |
| aignatov | you planned | 16:27 |
| aignatov | ah, you will use already provisioned clusters for the demo :) | 16:28 |
| tmckay | yes | 16:28 |
| tmckay | Going to skip over the cluster launch, assuming that is old news from last summit :) | 16:28 |
| tmckay | I can briefly show the templates | 16:29 |
| aignatov | actually it’s not needed :) | 16:29 |
| aignatov | templates and clusters is the old things right | 16:30 |
| tmckay | aignatov, I plan to build 1 of each type of object (Job Binary, Data Source, Job) and have all of the rest of the objects ready to go | 16:30 |
| tmckay | Then I can just launch them, and if there's time I can show a relaunch | 16:31 |
| tmckay | voila | 16:31 |
| tmckay | I think I'll add canned data to a slide, so I don't have to log in to hdfs to show it | 16:31 |
| tmckay | elmiko_afk, if I've launched an hdp cluster, what's the login for the ambari console? | 16:33 |
| tmckay | aignatov, ha! oozie said bigpetstore worked on hdp. But I have to find the data, there is no hadoop user ... | 16:40 |
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| tmckay | elmiko_afk, ^^ | 16:41 |
| tmckay | /user/hdfs/bigpetstore | 16:42 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, I'm so excited I can hardly stand it | 16:43 |
| crobertsrh | Heh, a very nerdy christmas :) | 16:43 |
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| tmckay | lol | 16:43 |
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| elmiko_afk | tmckay: just happened to walk by, admin/admin | 16:44 |
| tmckay | cool, thanks | 16:44 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, will relaunch work for a job that is pending/running? do you check the status? I'm think I can launch on vanilla, then immediately turn around and relaunch on hdp. | 17:02 |
| tmckay | cool | 17:02 |
| crobertsrh | Yeah, it should work just fine | 17:02 |
| crobertsrh | It will not kill the original job | 17:02 |
| tmckay | run in parallel. that would be boss | 17:02 |
| crobertsrh | just start another job | 17:02 |
| tmckay | thanks | 17:02 |
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| elmiko | tmckay: did that work for you? | 17:14 |
| tmckay | yeah, I got the ambari console. | 17:15 |
| tmckay | I wish I knew why the routing for the other consoles fails | 17:16 |
| tmckay | some network guru thing | 17:16 |
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| elmiko | like, you can't route between the nodes? | 17:19 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: in hdp there is ‘hdfs’ user | 18:03 |
| tmckay | aignatov, yeah, found that :) | 18:05 |
| tmckay | aignatov, weird, my hdp cluster can run the jobs, but something is wrong. 2 min for generation on vanilla, 4 min for clean, 3 minutes for analyze. On hdp, 12 minutes for generation, 6 for clean, 6 for analyze | 18:07 |
| tmckay | no idea what the difference is | 18:08 |
| tmckay | well, one is hadoop 2.0.6, one is 2.3.0 | 18:08 |
| tmckay | maybe 2.3.0 is faster | 18:08 |
| aignatov | 2.0.6 is a version of plugin not hadoop :) | 18:08 |
| tmckay | hmm, okay | 18:09 |
| aignatov | which flavor are using with HDP nodes? | 18:09 |
| tmckay | large, on everything | 18:10 |
| tmckay | hadoop version says Hadoop 2.2.0.2.0.6.0-101 | 18:10 |
| tmckay | so, slightly diferent than 2.3.0. I don't know where to being with hadoop performance eval, so we'll just call it slow | 18:15 |
| tmckay | hmm, I can still do my relaunch trick with a second vanilla cluster | 18:15 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: relaunch on vanilla would be fine as well :) | 18:24 |
| tmckay | aignatov, yes. I'll do both. Lots of pet supply processing. Something will finish if I run 3 clusters :) The internal stack can handle it. | 18:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Chad Roberts proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-sahara: Adding RHEL support for puppet-sahara https://review.openstack.org/92368 | 18:59 |
| tmckay | aignatov, okay, I think I'm done with slides. Do you want to give them your ok? I don't want to invent the roadmap (last slide), just citing possibilities :) | 19:11 |
| aignatov | do you plan to show slides before the actual demo? | 19:12 |
| tmckay | First few slides before, then the last slide after | 19:12 |
| tmckay | I thought I would show them quickly what the data is supposed to look like | 19:13 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara-dashboard: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/92960 | 19:13 |
| aignatov | Probably all text in your slides shold be with the same Font | 19:14 |
| aignatov | PT Sans I think | 19:14 |
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| aignatov | the last slide: all bullet point should be w/o ‘?’ sign at the end | 19:16 |
| aignatov | :) | 19:16 |
| tmckay | aignatov, ok, I'll adjust. I used PT Sans Narrow in a few places because it didn't fit | 19:16 |
| tmckay | ok, no ? mark | 19:17 |
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| aignatov | also ‘Other ideas?’ should be deleted, we don’t ask people in the talk what to so next :) we give them an our plans :) | 19:18 |
| tmckay | aignatov, but it's open source ;-) Don't we want their ideas? | 19:18 |
| aignatov | but you can say that “any others ideas are welcome” | 19:18 |
| tmckay | okay, I'll delete it. Thanks | 19:18 |
| tmckay | ok, good idea | 19:19 |
| aignatov | and wwlcome people to our design session :) | 19:19 |
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| aignatov | information about where to find us could be at the one nwe last slide | 19:20 |
| aignatov | *new | 19:20 |
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| aignatov | I’ve added two last slides :) | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara-image-elements: Turns off ambari and hadoop2 services for initial VM boot in HDP images https://review.openstack.org/92715 | 19:23 |
| tmckay | aignatov, okay, am I seeing your updates in real time? | 19:24 |
| tmckay | ah, there they are | 19:24 |
| tmckay | great | 19:24 |
| tmckay | still fixing fonts | 19:24 |
| aignatov | time to launch | 19:24 |
| aignatov | brb | 19:25 |
| tmckay | hmm, design sessions may have to be another slide. | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Chad Roberts proposed a change to stackforge/puppet-sahara: Adding RHEL support for puppet-sahara https://review.openstack.org/92368 | 19:25 |
| aignatov | hmm, I think there is :)no neeed to add new slide about design sessions only | 19:26 |
| aignatov | :) | 19:26 |
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| tmckay | aignatov, they wouldn't fit | 19:33 |
| tmckay | Should I take it out? whatever you think | 19:33 |
| tmckay | I think I'm done editing | 19:34 |
| tmckay | goodbye, vanilla 1.2.1 cluster. You have been replaced with vanilla 2. | 19:38 |
| tmckay | It was nice working with you. | 19:38 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, any experience getting rid of instances that won't delete? | 19:42 |
| elmiko | tmckay: do they list as error state? | 19:43 |
| tmckay | I'm afraid they're sitting around eating up resources | 19:43 |
| tmckay | no, running. 2 centos images have been that way for several days, and now only 1 of my vanilla 121 nodes went away (out of 5) | 19:44 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i had instances that wouldn't delete before and i needed to use `nova reset-state` on them to get them back to a place i could delete | 19:44 |
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| tmckay | ooo, that sounds good | 19:44 |
| crobertsrh | I have removed them from disk | 19:46 |
| crobertsrh | nova reset-state is probably more civilized | 19:46 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, ooo, nova delete id | 19:48 |
| tmckay | instant nuke | 19:48 |
| tmckay | thanks for the idea | 19:48 |
| tmckay | something in horizon seems to wrong with deletes | 19:49 |
| tmckay | sometimes it works, sometimes not | 19:49 |
| tmckay | retry from the UI "You are not allowed to delete instance blah" | 19:51 |
| elmiko | yea, i had to reset-state before i could delete in the past | 19:51 |
| elmiko | usually when i saw that message about not being allowed, then i needed to reset-state | 19:51 |
| tmckay | but the UI crushed it like yesterday's coke can | 19:51 |
| elmiko | yea, once i reset-state i could operate the ui again too | 19:52 |
| tmckay | CLI | 19:52 |
| tmckay | rather | 19:52 |
| elmiko | for me, i would see the status of the instance in the ui be something like running, then i would reset-state and it would show up as error | 19:52 |
| elmiko | then i could delete through either cli or ui | 19:52 |
| tmckay | weird. I just tried delete on the Sahara cluster that was already in delete, and it cleaned it all up the second time | 19:54 |
| elmiko | at least it worked | 19:58 |
| tmckay | crobertsrh, ever seen this? Trying to reuse my vanilla 230 cluster template, "Flavor 8 not found" | 19:58 |
| tmckay | should be large. I wonder if someone edited the flavor, I think that changes the id | 19:58 |
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| tmckay | crobertsrh, course I'm not an admin so it won't let me see the flavor table, I think | 20:01 |
| elmiko | tmckay: i think you can use the rest interface to get a list of all the flavors | 20:01 |
| tmckay | righto | 20:02 |
| tmckay | for some reason "8" doesn't cut it anymore. Looks the same. | 20:03 |
| elmiko | don't those need to be int's instead of strings? | 20:04 |
| tmckay | elmiko, weird, I just copied the node group templates, rechose flavor from the pulldown, made a new cluster templ and launched. | 20:09 |
| tmckay | some enumeration value changed? Hmm, we did update sahara, I think.... | 20:09 |
| tmckay | maybe there is a mapping issue | 20:09 |
| elmiko | maybe | 20:10 |
| tmckay | I don't know. Mystery for anther day. | 20:10 |
| elmiko | whenever i've used flavor from the json, i've always checked first by querying sahara | 20:11 |
| elmiko | but i have had issues with it | 20:11 |
| tmckay | somewhere there is a translation from "m1.large" to "8" | 20:11 |
| elmiko | ahh ok | 20:11 |
| tmckay | hmm, maybe a launchpad bug to track this | 20:14 |
| tmckay | ok, and now it works | 20:15 |
| tmckay | I just tried to launch the same templ to get the exact wording of the error, and it started building it | 20:16 |
| tmckay | or maybe not. Fails again. I might have picked the wrong one | 20:17 |
| elmiko | is this the centos cluster? | 20:19 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, no, this was vanilla, hadoop 2, ubuntu | 21:20 |
| tmckay | aignatov, SergeyLukjanov, _mattf, hmmm, I must not have hdp configured correctly, something is wrong. Very slow compared to vanilla, running on the same stack. If we have time maybe on Monday you guys can help hotrod it, otherwise I'll just use 2 vanilla clusters to show relaunch and parallel execution. | 21:22 |
| aignatov | tmckay: yes, you always can show it using vanilla | 21:24 |
| tmckay | aignatov, the engineer in me wants to dive into hdp performance, lol. But that probably has to wait. I wonder what I set up incorrectly.... | 21:25 |
| tmckay | I think I'm all set for the demo, though. | 21:26 |
| aignatov | shame on me, I | 21:26 |
| aignatov | never ran hdp :) | 21:26 |
| tmckay | aignatov, I ran hadoop 1, but bigpetstore is hadoop 2 only. It could be ported to hadoop 1, I'm sure, but I didn't have time to try | 21:27 |
| tmckay | this is my first hadoop 2 stack | 21:27 |
| tmckay | for hdp | 21:27 |
| aignatov | you are right | 21:27 |
| tmckay | good news is that generate, clean, and analyze are all only a few minutes on vanilla | 21:29 |
| tmckay | so I can easily run all 3 | 21:29 |
| aignatov | that’s good, but do you plan to prepare words in these gaps? :) | 21:29 |
| aignatov | what do you think to do during 2 minutes? | 21:30 |
| tmckay | yes, sure. | 21:30 |
| aignatov | btw, how long will the all demo? | 21:30 |
| aignatov | how long? | 21:30 |
| aignatov | in time :) | 21:30 |
| tmckay | I might open it up for questions while the jobs run, or give a quick overview of the cluster launching stuff (node groups, templates) for folks who haven't seen it before | 21:31 |
| tmckay | or show some of the cluster links (the oozie console) | 21:31 |
| tmckay | 10 - 15 minutes, easy. | 21:32 |
| tmckay | I can make it shorter or longer | 21:32 |
| aignatov | I haven’t mesured my spech time yet but I exect only 10 mins maximum | 21:34 |
| aignatov | so my 7-10 mis + 15 mins of your time + 5-7 of SergeyLukjanov speech should be fine, what do you think SergeyLukjanov and tmckay ? | 21:36 |
| tmckay | okay. I'm sure I can fill the time. I can even get crazy, pull up the oozie console, and show them details of the oozie workflow we generate :) | 21:36 |
| tmckay | I can talk about the CLI too, if there are no questions | 21:36 |
| tmckay | it doesn't work with the internal cluster, because that's still using cert tokens and our sahara instance isn't set up for it. | 21:37 |
| tmckay | but, I can run a devstack somewhere else and run the CLI against it if we want to | 21:37 |
| tmckay | only if nobody has questions | 21:38 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-saharaclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/92959 | 21:38 |
| * elmiko starts working on crazy questions | 21:38 | |
| tmckay | lol, a plant! | 21:38 |
| tmckay | awesome | 21:38 |
| tmckay | maybe elimiko can make a guest appearance and talk about image building | 21:39 |
| elmiko | no! | 21:39 |
| aignatov | three men woul be enough I think, tmckay :) | 21:40 |
| elmiko | what day is that presentation? | 21:41 |
| tmckay | Tuesday | 21:41 |
| elmiko | cool, should be fun | 21:41 |
| aignatov | elmiko: and on Monday, SergeyLukjanov, mattf and jspiedel will show their talk :) | 21:42 |
| aignatov | that’s funny too | 21:43 |
| elmiko | what time are the talks, i'm not seeing them on the schedule | 21:43 |
| elmiko | the monday one is the "Ops Meetup" ? | 21:44 |
| aignatov | ypu can find it here http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/ | 21:44 |
| elmiko | aignatov: thanks | 21:45 |
| aignatov | Monday, May 12 • 2:00pm - 2:40pm | 21:46 |
| elmiko | man, there is so much going on | 21:47 |
| aignatov | yep, you can click on all sessions you plan to attend | 21:48 |
| aignatov | and you ll get ypur schedule | 21:48 |
| aignatov | *your | 21:48 |
| elmiko | oh nice | 21:48 |
| elmiko | what time is the talk on tuesday? | 21:48 |
| aignatov | tmckay: slides looks good | 21:48 |
| tmckay | elmikio, hmm, I'll have to check the schedule | 21:49 |
| aignatov | not sure if lower font in 20 and 21 will look fine on the scrren | 21:49 |
| tmckay | aignatov, I just made a cheat sheet of stuff to talk about while the jobs run. I could go on for hours. | 21:50 |
| tmckay | okay. Maybe we can get there early and test the fong? | 21:50 |
| tmckay | font | 21:50 |
| aignatov | not sure, last time some organizer ask people to leave present room as fast as they can | 21:53 |
| aignatov | so there are not time for it | 21:53 |
| tmckay | which slides are you concerned about? Maybe we can make them bigger. On one, I stretched the margins to fit on one line | 22:00 |
| tmckay | hmm, my hdp cluster is almost acting like it is resource challenged. I used to get the same kind of behavior with vanilla on my laptop. Maybe respin with xlarge flavor | 22:00 |
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| tmckay | elmiko, Tuesday at 2. took me a while to find it | 22:09 |
| elmiko | ahh, thanks dude | 22:09 |
| elmiko | i'm having trouble putting my schedule together. too many good talks | 22:09 |
| tmckay | alright, time to go. Maybe see you guys tomorrow, or Sunday night :) | 22:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: Extended plugin SPI with methods to communicate with EDP https://review.openstack.org/73729 | 22:12 |
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| elmiko | night all | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/sahara: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/92955 | 23:56 |
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