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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/sahara-ci-config: Revert "Set Vanilla 2.4 jobs as non-voting (broken heat master)" https://review.openstack.org/126530 | 14:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis Egorenko proposed a change to openstack/sahara-image-elements: Fix problem with cloud-init on nova-network https://review.openstack.org/127184 | 14:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Denis Egorenko proposed a change to openstack/sahara-image-elements: Fix problem with cloud-init on nova-network https://review.openstack.org/127184 | 14:45 |
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zigo | What are sahara-image-elements and sahara-extra for? | 15:12 |
zigo | Do we need them in Debian too? | 15:12 |
elmiko | zigo: sahara-image-elements contains the script and diskimage builder elements to create sahara ready vm images | 15:13 |
elmiko | zigo: sahara-extra is moving towards deprecation, let me see what it still contains | 15:13 |
elmiko | sahara-extra used to have our examples and the hadoop-swift filesystem component. | 15:14 |
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elmiko | i think it only has the hadoop-swiftfs still | 15:14 |
elmiko | zigo: yea, sahara-extra contains the hadoop swift filesystem component, and that's all currently. | 15:15 |
zigo | elmiko: If it is to be deprecated, can I skip it? | 15:15 |
zigo | Or is it still useful? | 15:16 |
elmiko | zigo: good question. the only thing that someone would use it for now would be building the hadoop-swiftfs stuff. so it's like a dev thing. | 15:16 |
zigo | Ah ok. | 15:16 |
zigo | So not for final end users? | 15:16 |
elmiko | users who are interested in being on the bleeding edge would probably need it, but that's about it | 15:16 |
elmiko | likewise, image-elements will be needed by anyone who wants to generate their own VM images | 15:17 |
zigo | elmiko: You mean, there's already pre-built images available somewhere? | 15:20 |
elmiko | zigo: yes | 15:20 |
zigo | I'll be packaging sahara-image-elements I think. | 15:20 |
elmiko | zigo: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/userdoc/diskimagebuilder.html has more info on image-elements | 15:20 |
tosky | zigo: please consider that the packaging script has a dependency on diskimage-builder, or at least on git (it clones the dib repository, unless you specify a variable) | 15:21 |
zigo | tosky: I'll add a dependency on diskimage-builder, yes. | 15:21 |
tosky | zigo: also, the builder script in sahara-image-elements requires/is guaranteed to work with a specific tag of diskimage-builder | 15:21 |
tosky | so not master | 15:21 |
elmiko | zigo: also, pregenerated images can be found here for vanilla plugin http://docs.openstack.org/developer/sahara/userdoc/vanilla_plugin.html | 15:21 |
tosky | you can force master, but it's not tested | 15:21 |
zigo | tosky: Does it work with the latest tag from diskimage-builder? | 15:22 |
tosky | zigo: as I wrote, you are on your own | 15:22 |
zigo | tosky: That's not fun! :) | 15:22 |
elmiko | zigo: it currently uses the 0.1.29 tag of DIB as the default | 15:22 |
tosky | the tag exists because changes in dib sometimes breaks stuff | 15:22 |
zigo | tosky: This looks like a WIP, no? | 15:22 |
zigo | Hum... | 15:22 |
elmiko | zigo: it's a dev tool currently | 15:22 |
tosky | well, from *my* personal point of view, the problem is dib itself, but that's another story :) | 15:23 |
zigo | Probably I should just package it, but not upload it? | 15:23 |
zigo | Ok, got it. | 15:23 |
zigo | Then I may wait for a while, until all this stabilizes. | 15:23 |
zigo | tosky: What's special about the image? | 15:23 |
elmiko | on our doc page we have pregenerated images for several plugins, i think pointing users there is the first step | 15:23 |
tosky | zigo: it contains hadoop bits | 15:24 |
zigo | Would it be hard for me to use my own script? (eg: openstack-debian-images) | 15:24 |
tosky | what does it do? | 15:24 |
zigo | Hum... | 15:24 |
zigo | I know almost nothing about Hadoop... | 15:24 |
elmiko | i would say study diskimage-create.sh and the elements | 15:24 |
tosky | uhm, you would need quite al lot of work, the installation of hadoop requires few steps | 15:24 |
zigo | tosky: It just generates a "normal" OpenStack Debian image, nothing fancy. | 15:24 |
tosky | zigo: so debian+cloud-init? | 15:25 |
zigo | I use it for generating the official Debian images in the HP cloud for example. | 15:25 |
tosky | you need much more for hadoop, yes | 15:25 |
elmiko | that probably won't work, we don extra configuration for like cloud-init and, like tosky said, the hadoop bits | 15:25 |
zigo | tosky: Yeah, *EVERYTHING* from Debian repo only, including cloud-init, openstack-debian-images, and a bit more. | 15:25 |
zigo | Everything is in wheezy-backports too. | 15:25 |
tosky | there is a mode which allows to use a simple image to be dynamically populated, but I'm not sure how much is tested compared to the "prepopulated image" case | 15:26 |
zigo | Hadoop isn't in Debian, right? | 15:26 |
elmiko | imo, study the diskimage-create.sh file and the related elements to see how images are configured | 15:26 |
zigo | It's looking like it isn't. | 15:26 |
zigo | Maybe I'll wait and do all of this a bit later. | 15:27 |
zigo | I'm quite busy with the release right now ... | 15:27 |
zigo | BTW, did anyone test my Sahara packages? | 15:27 |
zigo | I'd be happy to have feedback. | 15:27 |
tosky | an old version was packaged, but I guess removed later: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535861 | 15:27 |
uvirtbot | Debian bug 535861 in wnpp "ITP: hadoop -- Java MapReduce implementation" [Wishlist,Fixed] | 15:27 |
tosky | and the repository on alioth is not exactly maintained http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-java/hadoop.git/ | 15:27 |
dmitryme | zigo: I did, but I have already told you :-) | 15:28 |
tosky | so I personally would more this to the bottom of the priorities :) | 15:28 |
zigo | dmitryme: Right! :) | 15:28 |
elmiko | zigo: i've been working on the fedora/redhat packaging, so i'm kinda caught up in that testing | 15:28 |
zigo | elmiko: Ok, good luck then! :) | 15:28 |
zigo | I know Thomas Koch, I met him in 2 debconfs already. | 15:31 |
zigo | I may shoot an email to see why Hadoop has been removed from Debian. | 15:32 |
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elmiko | i hear there are donuts in openstack-meeting-alt ;) | 17:59 |
aignatov | :) | 18:00 |
SergeyLukjanov | meeting time | 18:02 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: Adding support for oslo.rootwrap to namespace access https://review.openstack.org/125518 | 19:08 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: Fix bashate errors https://review.openstack.org/126913 | 21:34 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: Add bashate checks https://review.openstack.org/126915 | 21:34 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: Use new style classes everywhere https://review.openstack.org/126809 | 21:37 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/sahara: [IT] Fix deleting transient cluster when cluster in error state https://review.openstack.org/126898 | 21:37 |
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