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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Pavlov proposed openstack/sahara: Fixing event log handling during volumes mount https://review.openstack.org/237446 | 08:04 |
| openstackgerrit | XiaBing Yao proposed openstack/sahara: Update stackforge to openstack https://review.openstack.org/237447 | 08:05 |
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| pino|work | vgridnev: i'm around now | 16:27 |
| vgridnev | pino|work, ok | 16:27 |
| vgridnev | last day finished, that ambari is only a management console | 16:27 |
| pino|work | ok, and what about the services? randomly installed from the internet? | 16:28 |
| vgridnev | yes | 16:29 |
| pino|work | that's... creepy | 16:29 |
| vgridnev | it knows where something is located (public mirror, local mirror) and then install packages from the provided place | 16:30 |
| vgridnev | that is reasoning of having of creation new image type | 16:30 |
| pino|work | do you have any control on which services can be handled? | 16:31 |
| pino|work | i mean, IMHO it would make more sense to be able to produce an image with ambari and services A, B, C installed on it already, so ambari would not use anything beside those | 16:31 |
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| pino|work | that would give more control on what is actually installed, and less "download random things from the internet" | 16:32 |
| vgridnev | you can only handle where to get something by configuring repos, where install something, datanodes for example, and that is all | 16:32 |
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| vgridnev | It's not good idea, I think. Ambari supports many services, how to choose which are most important? | 16:33 |
| pino|work | surely you can get an idea in advance about your needs | 16:34 |
| vgridnev | sorry, not randomly from internet, from Hortonworks repos | 16:35 |
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| vgridnev | also, one important thing that size of local mirror is about 6.7 gbs, so we cannot include everything on one image | 16:35 |
| pino|work | which requires a network connection, and may leak private details (every time you use a service, packages are downloaded from hortonworks, which can get statistics on your usages) | 16:36 |
| vgridnev | But it's possible to use local repos, as I said | 16:37 |
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| pino|work | which is basically include all the packages in the image | 16:38 |
| vgridnev | Yep | 16:38 |
| pino|work | how is that different from just installing them right away, then? | 16:38 |
| pino|work | you use images much more often than how much you build them | 16:39 |
| pino|work | so the runtime cost of installing things is much higher than just installing them at image creation time | 16:39 |
| vgridnev | 1 VM with image size 6.7 GB against of many | 16:40 |
| pino|work | is this size the size of an image with a local repository? | 16:41 |
| vgridnev | yes | 16:41 |
| pino|work | and what would be the size of an image where all these packages are installed already? | 16:41 |
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| vgridnev | right now ambari image have size 1GB, and include only ambari stuff | 16:42 |
| vgridnev | so, if we will include all packages on that, we will have probably 7 or more, I think | 16:43 |
| pino|work | 7 GB vs 6.7 is not that worse | 16:43 |
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| vgridnev | 1 vs 7 | 16:44 |
| pino|work | that isn't the right comparison | 16:44 |
| pino|work | i'm comparing against your new image type, not against the "ambari" one | 16:44 |
| vgridnev | ok | 16:44 |
| pino|work | because by your comparison, even 1 GB vs 6.7 GB would be too much | 16:45 |
| vgridnev | okay, are you agree now, that we need new image type? | 16:45 |
| vgridnev | with local mirror? | 16:45 |
| pino|work | nope | 16:46 |
| vgridnev | why? | 16:46 |
| pino|work | because if the overhead is not that much, just install things and be done with them | 16:46 |
| pino|work | ambari will be happy to have them already there, and will not install things further | 16:47 |
| vgridnev | Right now, ambari image doesn't have anything, and current size of image only 1 gb, So are you suggesting to put everything on that image? And then have image with size more then 7 gb? | 16:49 |
| pino|work | or be able to specify which services should be used, install them only, and configure ambari to use at most those | 16:50 |
| pino|work | and again, you are comparing with the wrong image type | 16:51 |
| vgridnev | no | 16:51 |
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| vgridnev | Right now local mirror will around 7 GB, and image with ambari only will have size 1 gb, I don't know other types | 16:53 |
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| vgridnev | which type are you compare? | 17:00 |
| pino|work | the one you are proposing | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/sahara: Update stackforge to openstack https://review.openstack.org/237447 | 17:01 |
| vgridnev | and? | 17:02 |
| vgridnev | which is the second one? | 17:04 |
| pino|work | what imho should be done, instead of creating a local mirror | 17:05 |
| vgridnev | the one with base services? | 17:06 |
| vgridnev | pino|work, you are proposing the image with base services, right? | 17:08 |
| pino|work | i'm proposing to install the services if you need to use them, and not let ambari pick random stuff out of the blue | 17:09 |
| pino|work | need to leave now, see you tomorrow | 17:13 |
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| vgridnev | ok, please ping me when you will have chance to talk | 17:15 |
| vgridnev | pino|work, ^^ | 17:15 |
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