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| thrash | are default positional params frowned upon for an osc plugin? | 12:21 |
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| d0ugal | dtroyer: do you happen to have an answer for thrash's question? | 13:39 |
| thrash | or dhellmann | 13:39 |
| dtroyer | d0ugal: IMNSHO yes, but plugins are going to do what they are going to do. | 13:40 |
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| dtroyer | The Value-Add for OSC is its consistency, and if things are not consistent then we lose that | 13:40 |
| dtroyer | So this is one area I have strong opinions and need solid reasons to change them. | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | All that said, plugins aren't in the OSC repo and everything is really just suggestions for them. It is up to the plugin folk in the ned | 13:42 |
| dtroyer | s/ned/end/ | 13:42 |
| d0ugal | dtroyer: okay, thanks - we just needed some guidance on deciding for our plugin | 13:43 |
| d0ugal | Trying to be as consistent as we can, but fielding complaints about verbose commands :) | 13:43 |
| d0ugal | but I'm starting to thin we are a bit of a weird edge case and don't fit OSC all that well. | 13:44 |
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| dtroyer | sure, np. It is verbose, and that was also a design choice in favor of clarity over my unix-like need to save keystrokes | 13:44 |
| d0ugal | Yeah, I don't mind it | 13:44 |
| dtroyer | one thing I have thought about, and maybe this fits you guys, is if OSC might also want to have a full shell plugin, ie, a plugin gets its own binary but still leverages everything else. so you'd have a command without the other plugins and the entire object name space to yourself | 13:46 |
| d0ugal | dtroyer: We actually stepped back from that in the end, we now include all the normal plugins etc. | 13:49 |
| d0ugal | Turns out that was partly confusion on our end - so we are slightly more normal users. | 13:50 |
| d0ugal | The weird thing is that most of our commands are about combining multiple services used in tripleo. Whereas I get the feeling OSC plugins are intended to be for individual services. | 13:50 |
| dtroyer | The original ones were, but tried to hide the fact that they were from individual services. It should look like a single cloud to users. There hasn't been a lot of need to combine them, but the quota and limits commands do exactly that | 13:52 |
| d0ugal | ah, maybe I should take a look at those | 13:52 |
| dtroyer | so far the biggest cross-over is doing id -> name lookups. The other place we'll see more of that is in making the networking commands silently switch between nova and neutron | 13:54 |
| dtroyer | it should be easy to do, we just haven't done much. sounds like you're out in front on that one | 13:55 |
| d0ugal | dtroyer: The weirdest bit that we have is a random v1 that doesn't mean anything because we couldn't figure out how to have a plugin without a version | 13:58 |
| d0ugal | It looks like the quota command doesn't have a version tho' - /me reads | 14:00 |
| dtroyer | you really don't need the version in the names. I did them everywhere as a future-proof thing that was cheap in the beginning but that was really all. | 14:05 |
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| briancurtin | sdk meeting in ~12 minutes in #openstack-meeting-3 -- i know we're down a few people today so it may be quick, but would like to talk about get/list/find - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/PythonOpenStackSDK#Agenda_for_2015-04-28_1900_UTC | 18:48 |
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