Tuesday, 2015-07-21

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Remove requirements.txt from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/20317000:42
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openstackgerritSean Perry proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add 'image create' to openstack  https://review.openstack.org/20328001:23
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jamielennoxpbr conflicts mean i can't pip install osc 1.0, 1.0.2, 1.0.3....02:23
jamielennoxi swear i get bitten by pbr at least once a month02:23
openstackgerritjiaxi proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix quota set failed problem  https://review.openstack.org/20331202:23
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stevemarjamielennox: happens way too often :(02:52
jamielennoxstevemar: turns out it's more than just pbr - but pbr is doing the enforcement02:53
jamielennoxwhy would pip freeze > req.txt; source venv/bin/activate; pip install -r req.txt not work03:01
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openstackgerritLin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Make trustee/trustor/project searchable by ID  https://review.openstack.org/20064603:12
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openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add list to volume v2  https://review.openstack.org/20351608:52
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openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add list to volume v2  https://review.openstack.org/20351608:56
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openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add list feature to volume v2  https://review.openstack.org/20351609:03
openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add set feature to volume type v2  https://review.openstack.org/20397509:26
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openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add set feature to volume type v2  https://review.openstack.org/20399510:03
openstackgerritheha proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add set feature to volume type v2  https://review.openstack.org/20399510:04
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add config show command  https://review.openstack.org/20344215:56
openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add config show command  https://review.openstack.org/20344215:59
openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add config show command  https://review.openstack.org/20344216:03
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briancurtinterrylhowe: FYI I'm at OSCON through Thursday. I'll be around for the meeting today but not a whole lot the next few days16:35
terrylhowecool briancurtin16:35
sigmavirus24briancurtin: enjoy16:35
sigmavirus24briancurtin: say hi to Jill for me =P16:35
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shalehI am confused a bit. I run pep8 before I check in. But the Jenkins gate is pointing out problems that the local pep8 is not.16:39
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briancurtinshaleh: how exactly are you running pep8 locally? "pep8" or "tox -e pep8" or something else?16:41
briancurtin(i dont have any followup to that...just pointing out a usual difference)16:42
shalehbriancurtin: good to know, thanks16:42
shalehIt is a binding in my emacs to run pep8 but it is definitely the local one, not tox16:42
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Adds v3 Catalog Support in v2_0.catalog.  https://review.openstack.org/18172216:45
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stevemarshaleh: common issue, run the tox one, it'll create a virtualenv and not bug your local stuff16:47
shalehstevemar: yup, on it :-)16:47
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shalehwhy is so much of the OpenStack code still using the '%' formatter instead of .format()?16:48
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briancurtinshaleh: probably inertia since .format hasn't really taken over anywhere else either, along with the fact % isn't going away16:50
* briancurtin likes .format, but ends up using % to play along with others16:51
shalehbriancurtin: which continues the inertia :-)16:51
briancurtintrue, but it ends up being one of those PEP 8'ish type things where consistency within a file trumps anything else. it's not really helped by the fact that the logging package supports % fomatting directly in the log.<level>(...) messages, so if you're doing any logging you're doing % formatting16:53
shalehbriancurtin: fair enough on the log messages. I get the consistency argument but then you are always stuck in the old ways.16:54
briancurtinshaleh: yeah, it's not great, but refactoring everything to move to .format is probably not high on anyone's list (i'm not against such things in general, but it depends a lot on the project and what it's doing with the formatting)16:57
shalehif pep8's limit is 80 chars, why does it complain when the last char is on column 79?16:57
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openstackgerritSean Perry proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add 'image create' to openstack  https://review.openstack.org/20328017:19
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openstackgerritSean Perry proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Update 'image set' command handling and documentation  https://review.openstack.org/20386317:59
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openstackgerritSean Perry proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Allow user to specify their own clouds.yaml or clouds-public.yaml file  https://review.openstack.org/20321118:17
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briancurtinSDK meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 in 15 min - light agenda (big tent + release plans) and everett and others are still out18:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-openstackclient: Make trustee/trustor/project searchable by ID  https://review.openstack.org/20064619:46
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openstackgerritTerry Howe proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Fix yet more documentation warnings  https://review.openstack.org/20423720:07
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shalehhow to look at old comments in gerrit?20:21
terrylhoweclick on the patch set shaleh20:21
shalehterrylhowe: ah, I see20:21
shalehI am still not sold on "only in v1" when that is like half of the commands20:22
terrylhoweI’m not entirely happy with the docs myself, I wish they were generated20:23
shalehterrylhowe: definitely, way to much cut n paste20:23
shalehs/to/too20:24
terrylhoweI think the docs group auto generates docs, it has been a while since I looked at that though20:24
terrylhowenot sure what they are generating20:24
shalehI asked on #-doc, let's find out :-)20:26
shalehbasically image v2 create dropped a bunch of v1 args from the API so the CLI followed suit20:27
shaleh        [--store <store>]20:28
shaleh        [--owner <project>]20:28
shaleh        [--size <size>]20:28
shaleh        [--location <image-url>]20:28
shaleh        [--copy-from <image-url>]20:28
shaleh        [--volume <volume>]20:28
shaleh        [--force]20:28
shaleh        [--checksum <checksum>]20:28
shalehall of that is v1 only20:28
dtroyer_zzshaleh: how many of those are expected to be maintained as properties/metadata?20:28
shalehdtroyer_zz: location appears to have been punted from the CLI20:29
shalehsize & checksum are metadata20:29
dtroyer_zzfwiw, I usually don't like generated docs for end users because they are _always_ a readability compromise and that affects a lot more people than a handful of devs who need to stay on top of keeping them up to date20:29
shalehnot sure about volume and owner20:29
terrylhowebriancurtin: we already have this https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/147434520:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1474345 in OpenStack SDK "Support Service Type aliases" [Wishlist,Confirmed]20:29
dtroyer_zzany of those that have clear translations into v2 we should keep.20:31
shalehdtroyer_zz: they don't really. Some of it can be done via UPDATE API calls20:31
dtroyer_zzI don't care how the API works, what is the user going to see and what is the server going to enforce/drop on the floor?20:32
shalehso if 'image create' took --owner it would need to do a CREATE IMAGE, then a handful of UPDATE IMAGE20:32
dtroyer_zzsure20:33
shalehdtroyer_zz: TBH, I have done the simple work following the assumption that there is a valid reason not to take some args during creation20:33
shalehI am 100% with adding support for stacking some update calls if that is the right thing to do20:34
dtroyer_zzthis is where we need the UX study, to know how it is actually being used20:34
shalehdtroyer_zz: agreed20:34
dtroyer_zzfor now, though, when we can keep the same behaviour without doing insane things I think we should20:34
shalehdtroyer_zz: I have tried to avoid the engineer mindset which is "just give lots of options"20:35
shalehdtroyer_zz: is there a UX study planned/under way?20:36
dtroyer_zzwe've talked about one with Piet and the brand new (like 30 minutes now) UX team20:36
dtroyer_zzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/199768/20:36
shalehgroovy20:36
shalehsounds like a plan if we can past Horizon :-)20:40
shalehthings like cohesive API, CLI, etc. would all be nice to see20:42
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dtroyer_zzfor now, it's just about OSC…  long term, agreement on everything is, honestly, nearly impossible20:52
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shalehdtroyer_zz: understood21:09
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stevemardtroyer_zz: ping22:03
dtroyer_zzhey22:03
stevemardtroyer_zz: looks like a missed a convo :\22:04
stevemar"dtroyer_zz: for now, it's just about OSC…  long term, agreement on everything is, honestly, nearly impossible"22:04
stevemaranything interesting?22:04
dtroyer_zzabout the UX thing?22:04
dtroyer_zzI had a discussion or two with Piet about the UX group doing a study for us, did I not mention it?22:05
dtroyer_zznothing firm, on my side I was curios about what/how they would do something22:06
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dtroyer_zzturns out we need to work up the details of what to ask and the people to ask it of22:06
stevemarah okay22:06
dtroyer_zzwe still might do it, we talked about in Sept or Oct22:07
dtroyer_zzso we should be collecting things like that above for the list of stuff to consider22:07
stevemardtroyer_zz: not sure if you're seeing the churn happen right now22:08
stevemarbut theres been a ton of OSC changes landing22:08
dtroyer_zzI've been watching, am looking at image create v2 right now22:09
stevemarvolume v2 stuff is almost done, a handful are left22:09
dtroyer_zzso are my expectations that things follow existing patterns out of line?  if the pattern is wrong, let's change it, but that has to be an explicit decision…22:19
stevemardtroyer_zz: youre asking toomuch :P22:27
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dtroyer_zzI'm beginning to think so actually22:29
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shalehdtroyer_zz: I am not opposed. I am taking a bit to read and think.22:41
shalehI personally dislike --unprotected on 'image create' it is a useless argument. It does have a purpose on 'image set' though since an image may have been protected and now it should not be.22:42
shalehas for the documentation, 8 of the 17 arguments are v1 only.22:44
shalehthat is why I separated it. It makes for more clear docs.22:44
shalehif I implement it as you (dtroyer) are asking then that number may reduce and a unification makes more sense22:44
shalehI need to play with the APIs more to see how sensible that is22:45
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shalehstevemar: this would be easier if the API docs at developer.openstack.org reflected reality23:23
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openstackgerritHardik Italia proposed stackforge/python-openstacksdk: Added functional tests for compute image API  https://review.openstack.org/20431023:37
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