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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Editorial nits for docs https://review.openstack.org/286815 | 00:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Improve usability of docs https://review.openstack.org/286816 | 00:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Fix exported symbol in identity.v3 https://review.openstack.org/286814 | 00:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Generate FederationBaseAuth constructor parameters https://review.openstack.org/286826 | 00:36 |
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openstackgerrit | guang-yee proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Support TOTP auth plugin https://review.openstack.org/281086 | 00:54 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth: Remove unavailable parameter https://review.openstack.org/286825 | 00:54 |
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openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add test cases to test some commands with '--wait' and fix bug https://review.openstack.org/283505 | 01:34 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/286969 | 04:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Mohan Muppidi proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: " openstack server image create " doesn't print proper info https://review.openstack.org/286418 | 05:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add backwards incompatible info for "aggregate show" command https://review.openstack.org/287005 | 06:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add backwards incompatible info for "aggregate show" command https://review.openstack.org/287005 | 06:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Support "network create" command in nova network https://review.openstack.org/284702 | 06:49 |
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openstackgerrit | bran proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: fix class hypervisor https://review.openstack.org/287029 | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: [Image] Check return value is None in image unit tests. https://review.openstack.org/287037 | 08:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Reedip proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "router port add" to osc https://review.openstack.org/281691 | 08:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Tang Chen proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Trivial: Reorder unit tests in alphabetical order in volume tests https://review.openstack.org/287051 | 09:19 |
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openstackgerrit | bran proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Add Hypervisor support to Compute Service https://review.openstack.org/286131 | 10:15 |
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openstackgerrit | bran proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Add Hypervisor support to Compute Service https://review.openstack.org/286131 | 10:19 |
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dtantsur | dtroyer, yeah (btw how is it done?), but I meant have an option of whether to authenticate or not | 10:28 |
dtantsur | dtroyer, e.g. ironic and ironic-inspector can be used without the remaining openstack | 10:28 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: [compute] add microversion support v2.2 & v2.10 https://review.openstack.org/286809 | 11:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Add Hypervisor support to Compute Service https://review.openstack.org/286131 | 12:45 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add --reason for disable service https://review.openstack.org/287182 | 13:19 |
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openstackgerrit | jichenjc proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: [compute] Add set host command https://review.openstack.org/283280 | 13:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Cindia-blue proposed openstack/python-openstacksdk: Add Hypervisor support to Compute Service https://review.openstack.org/286131 | 14:16 |
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sdague | elmiko / cdent / bknudson - can we circle around on the new readme - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286088/ | 14:25 |
sdague | also annegentl_ | 14:25 |
* annegentl_ looks | 14:25 | |
elmiko | sdague: ack, will do | 14:25 |
sdague | hopefully I fixed the issues | 14:25 |
elmiko | sdague: just one minor nit, L21 should be "An OpenStack..." | 14:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack/service-types-authority: add initial README and describe schema https://review.openstack.org/286088 | 14:28 |
sdague | done | 14:28 |
elmiko | sdague: thanks! | 14:29 |
annegentl_ | sdague: commented, if you want to be perfectly grammatically correct (meh) it's well-known when describing | 14:29 |
elmiko | oop, looks like annegentl_ added a comment in there too | 14:29 |
annegentl_ | mostly want to make sure we're clear where API definitions can live | 14:30 |
sdague | annegentl_: ok, can we start with something and make some of these rules as we go? | 14:30 |
annegentl_ | sdague: it's supremely borderline governance so... | 14:30 |
annegentl_ | but you'll notice I didn't minus 1 | 14:30 |
annegentl_ | I'm all about progress | 14:31 |
sdague | I guess I'm trying to anticipate some, but until we start with an actual yaml I feel like it's hard to really get there | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | sdague: yah | 14:31 |
sdague | because even the 2 I thought would be easy, turn out not to be | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | sdague: the schema will define much of this | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | sdague: heh | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | oh dear | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | there's no easy here :) | 14:31 |
elmiko | heh, +1 | 14:31 |
annegentl_ | gotta drive, back in a bit | 14:32 |
bknudson | if it's difficult for us it's difficult for users | 14:34 |
bknudson | posted my comments, all nits so still +2. | 14:34 |
elmiko | good point | 14:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Support "network create" command in nova network https://review.openstack.org/284702 | 14:44 |
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amotoki | rtheis: ping | 16:05 |
rtheis | amotoki: hi | 16:06 |
amotoki | rtheis: thanks for updating neutronclient devref on OSC migrartion | 16:06 |
rtheis | amotoki: you're welcome | 16:06 |
amotoki | rtheis: question on python binding base class https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282555/ | 16:06 |
amotoki | rtheis: I am okay to merge it first and then explore the solution. what do you think? | 16:06 |
rtheis | amotoki: looking... | 16:08 |
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amotoki | rtheis: thanks. no need to rush, but it is nice to merge before releasing neutornclient (because of docs.o.o devref update) | 16:08 |
rtheis | amotoki: sure...I was thinking we could have neutron core use openstacksdk. I think *aaS could do so to. | 16:10 |
rtheis | amotoki: other projects could manage their own bindings or use openstacksdk if appropriate | 16:11 |
rtheis | amotoki: but maybe I don't understand all of the details here | 16:12 |
amotoki | rtheis: exactly. they are much simpler than neutron ecosystem... | 16:12 |
amotoki | rtheis: the decision is to use openstacksdk or have their own client. | 16:12 |
rtheis | amotoki: is that okay? | 16:13 |
amotoki | rtheis: it is a bit different for neutron subproject (including *aaS and networking-foo). | 16:13 |
amotoki | rtheis: they want to control client side in their repo. | 16:13 |
amotoki | rtheis: so the question is who provides base client class... | 16:14 |
amotoki | rtheis: openstacksdk instantiates a client for network and the current neutronclient do so too. | 16:14 |
rtheis | amotoki: I suppose we can keep both and maybe we shouldd | 16:15 |
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amotoki | rtheis: so it means neutronclient Client class will be maintained for neutron subprojects in the future? | 16:16 |
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rtheis | amotoki: I was originally thinking that only the CLI part of neutronclient would be deprecated and leave the Python library | 16:18 |
amotoki | rtheis: okay. this sounds fair. | 16:19 |
openstackgerrit | Clenimar Filemon proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Add is_domain to keystoneauth token https://review.openstack.org/282377 | 16:19 |
rtheis | amotoki: so maybe the question is what should we recommend or require ? | 16:19 |
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amotoki | rtheis: I think I saw too much thing. | 16:20 |
rtheis | OSC will use openstacksdk | 16:20 |
amotoki | networking commands supported by OSC should be implemented in openstacksdk | 16:21 |
amotoki | neutron subproject can implement OSC plugin | 16:21 |
rtheis | neutron OSC plugins continue to use neutronclient for python bindings ? | 16:21 |
amotoki | OSC plugin has choices: it can use neutronclient as python library | 16:22 |
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amotoki | or a subproject can contribute to openstacksdk. | 16:22 |
rtheis | ok | 16:22 |
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amotoki | I start to think this is reasonable solution | 16:22 |
rtheis | what about OSC plugins within neutronclient? | 16:22 |
rtheis | I wonder if we could run into trouble using both neutronclient and openstacksdk | 16:23 |
rtheis | or a combination of both | 16:23 |
amotoki | what do you mean by OSC plugins within neutronclient? | 16:24 |
rtheis | this line in devref... Core (New/Experimental) | Yes | python-neutronclient | 16:24 |
amotoki | yes, this is a problem. | 16:25 |
amotoki | honestly i would like to avoid duplication of python binding side too. | 16:25 |
rtheis | agreed | 16:26 |
amotoki | if openstacksdk supports extension, we can have python binding for experimental feature in neutornclient repo. | 16:26 |
rtheis | it technically does but briancurtin recommended working in the SDK... he said the extension idea was intended to serve vendors | 16:28 |
briancurtin | users want one place to consume this stuff | 16:29 |
amotoki | rtheis: I understand briancurtin's points. | 16:29 |
amotoki | regarding experimental feature, we tend to change things frequently and want to sync server side. | 16:29 |
amotoki | this is one of big motivation that neutron subprojects want to have CLI impl in their own repo. | 16:30 |
amotoki | once it is matured, features are not changed frequently and it is time to go openstacksdk. | 16:31 |
rtheis | amotoki: ok | 16:31 |
amotoki | briancurtin: does my above point make sense? | 16:31 |
dtroyer | can your project use the base session/transport/whatever from the SDK and build on top of that? | 16:32 |
dtroyer | that would be MUCH better than using neutronclient | 16:32 |
dtroyer | even if the REST API bits are not part of the SDK, you can use the base and leverage the session support, auth, etc | 16:33 |
amotoki | dtroyer: i haven't investigated it yet. | 16:33 |
briancurtin | i don’t know, i have no idea how neutron and subprojects are organized. everyone having everything on their own is how we got to this point though so seems like a bad idea | 16:33 |
amotoki | if we can use the base stuff like session/transport from SDK, it would be great. | 16:33 |
dtroyer | as far as OSC is concerned, a plugin ahs all of the clients in the ClientManager class available to it, it can create its own if needed too... | 16:33 |
dtroyer | but using the Session from ClientManager will get you all of the leveraged auth and stuff | 16:34 |
amotoki | hmm... | 16:36 |
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rtheis | amotoki: I need to head out for an appointment ... I'll check back after. Feel free to update the devref with your thoughts | 16:38 |
amotoki | I need to check more detail. I thought ClientManager just creates session and keep client instances with the session created. | 16:39 |
amotoki | rtheis: thanks for your time. | 16:39 |
rtheis | yw | 16:39 |
dtroyer | amotoki: it does. but that is passed down to every command class, so you have all of the clients available, plus the base Session. If a plugin needs to call neutronclient it can do so and still use the clients in the ClientManager object for other things. | 16:40 |
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amotoki | dtroyer: thanks, i see. I will check more detail. | 16:47 |
amotoki | dtroyer: btw, what is the reason(s) that OSC decided to consume openstacksdk for network commands? | 16:48 |
amotoki | dtroyer: it is for my understanding. any point is appreciated. | 16:48 |
amotoki | *pointer* | 16:48 |
dtroyer | amotoki: we intend to use the SDK for as much as possible, we had very little Noetwork support and eliminating our dependency on neutronclient was a win. I hope we can do this with Image next and get away from glanceclient and its unique dependencies | 16:50 |
dtroyer | one of the goals here is to reduce the sheer number of package dependencies required to install a CLI on a user's system | 16:50 |
amotoki | dtroyer: sounds fair, especially from user perspective | 16:51 |
amotoki | dtroyer: in neutron team, we are concerning python binding maintenace duplication between neutronclient and openstacksdk. | 16:52 |
amotoki | dtroyer: especially for new feature supports.. | 16:52 |
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amotoki | dtroyer: we are exploring a solution now... there is no super answer. | 16:54 |
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dtroyer | amotoki: there will be duplication, they are meant for different uses | 17:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: [Image] Check return value is None in image unit tests. https://review.openstack.org/287037 | 17:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Jas Singh proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add 'port create' command https://review.openstack.org/273670 | 19:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Brad Behle proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "os subnet create" command using SDK https://review.openstack.org/279273 | 19:08 |
stevemar | dtroyer: you around? we need an osc release some time this week :) | 19:16 |
stevemar | dtroyer: mitaka-3 cut off is this week | 19:16 |
stevemar | dtroyer: last week for client libraries | 19:16 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/286969 | 19:23 |
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dtroyer | stevemar: in-n-out today… what needs attention yet? we should try to have a release proposed today yet then… | 19:29 |
openstackgerrit | Brad Behle proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add "os subnet create" command using SDK https://review.openstack.org/279273 | 19:34 |
openstackgerrit | Sam Leong proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Auth plugin for X.509 tokenless authz https://review.openstack.org/283905 | 19:54 |
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tjcocozz | dtroyer, If you have time could you talk about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202748 | 20:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Jas Singh proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Add 'port create' command https://review.openstack.org/273670 | 21:50 |
openstackgerrit | Tom Cocozzello proposed openstack/python-openstackclient: Query args for get-only https://review.openstack.org/202748 | 21:55 |
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dtroyer | tjcocozz: still around? | 22:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/286969 | 22:40 |
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