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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/osc-lib master: add lower-constraints job https://review.openstack.org/556059 | 01:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Logan V proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Add Limestone Networks vendor info https://review.openstack.org/557139 | 04:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix additional output encoding issues https://review.openstack.org/554698 | 04:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sami Makki proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Fix the `role implies list` command. https://review.openstack.org/557359 | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: add lower-constraints job https://review.openstack.org/556172 | 13:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/553257 | 13:23 |
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| jpich | dtroyer: Hi! I'm told RDO needs tagged releases to be able to consume backports on stable branches so I took the liberty to post a couple of release patches for osc and cliff. Hopefully that's ok, I'm not sure if that helps or if it's just as much work on your side - please let me know if there's something I could do differently! Thank you. | 13:24 |
| jpich | dhellmann: I see you're the release liaison for OSC so this may be relevant ^, just fyi and fmi too on the preferred way to handle things! :) | 13:24 |
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| dtroyer | jpich: I am planning an OSC release today anyway, just now getting back to check if the reviews I was waiting on passed... | 13:55 |
| dtroyer | \o/ | 13:55 |
| dtroyer | Oh, yes, I missed you were talking about stable, I'll look at that next. thanks | 13:56 |
| jpich | Awesome!! And no problems, good luck with all the releasing :) | 13:57 |
| dtroyer | thanks, we're way overdue. | 13:57 |
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| dtroyer | EmilienM: osc 3.15.0 on its way https://review.openstack.org/557716 \o/ finally | 14:22 |
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| dtroyer | jpich: +! on both pike releases… there was an SDK compat issue in stable/queens so OSC 3.14.1 is in the queue too | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | dtroyer: thanks a lot! | 14:40 |
| jpich | dtroyer: Awesome, thank you! | 14:42 |
| dtroyer | I just found a backport of the —mtu option to queens, will merge that before the 3.14.1 release | 14:42 |
| dtantsur | cdent: hey! our meeting is in 1:10, right? /me has summer time now | 14:50 |
| cdent | dtantsur: yeah, that's right. I'm disoriented too | 14:51 |
| dtantsur | cool! my calendar shows it correctly, but it was incorrect for another meeting, soooo... :) | 14:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Update help text for encryption provider https://review.openstack.org/545459 | 15:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Run normalize_keys on config for session codepath https://review.openstack.org/547159 | 15:53 |
| elmiko | cdent: around? | 16:00 |
| cdent | sigh, this is going to happen every week | 16:00 |
| elmiko | lol, only till the fall =) | 16:01 |
| cdent | no, it's because of tc office hours being right before api-sig, and they move in sync | 16:05 |
| cdent | elmiko: ^ | 16:05 |
| elmiko | ahhh | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove the need for OpenStackConfig in CloudRegion https://review.openstack.org/547488 | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Add image_format for VEXXHOST profile https://review.openstack.org/557748 | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Replace guts with openstack.config https://review.openstack.org/549307 | 16:08 |
| mordred | SamYaple, Shrews, rods, slaweq: if you have a sec, I'd like to land 547159, 547488, 556089 and 555710 and then cut an sdk release | 16:11 |
| SamYaple | mordred: 547488 is in merge conflict | 16:17 |
| mordred | bother | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/api-wg master: Update parameter names in microversion sdk spec https://review.openstack.org/557773 | 16:46 |
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| mordred | dtantsur, elmiko, cdent, edleafe: ^^ there's one | 16:46 |
| elmiko | mordred: wow, quick draw mcmordred! | 16:47 |
| dtantsur | mordred: to be honest, I hate it | 16:48 |
| dtantsur | I guess you were not in the room in Dublin when I was ranting about "micro"? | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/api-wg master: Add guideline on exposing microversions in SDKs https://review.openstack.org/532814 | 16:48 |
| dtantsur | tl;dr "micro" only makes any sense to 3-6 people involved in API SIG, and absolutely no sense to everyone else | 16:48 |
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| * dtantsur should probably comment on the patch | 16:49 | |
| mordred | dtantsur: that's fair - but we have two completely different types of versions with completely different semantics | 16:50 |
| mordred | dtantsur: I mean, I don't like the name either | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | mordred: similarly to what we discussed today, I would like the major version to be taken from the "just version" | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | it would be different if we did not include the major version in the microversion | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | (see it already makes little sense - a major version is contained in a micro!) | 16:51 |
| mordred | dtantsur: so - unfortunately, we have services that didn't implement microversions (yet) and include minor versions in their api versions | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | oh | 16:52 |
| mordred | glance 2.8, for instance | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | my | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | god | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | ... | 16:52 |
| mordred | dtantsur: welcome to my personal hell :) | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | mordred: I started glance in rust-openstack, it's my hell as well now.. | 16:52 |
| mordred | :) | 16:52 |
| mordred | dtantsur: so if we re-use, then people might erroneously think they can say get_image(api_version=2.8) - which they actually can't do | 16:53 |
| * dtantsur #sadpanda | 16:53 | |
| mordred | dtantsur: yah | 16:53 |
| dtantsur | mordred: can we then invent a better name for microversions? | 16:53 |
| mordred | dtantsur: fine by me | 16:53 |
| mordred | dtantsur: "per api call version" | 16:53 |
| dtantsur | maybe we should call it "revision"? like, avoid "version" completely? | 16:54 |
| mordred | I mean - it's actually "endpoint_version" and "call_version" - as one is used to find the endpoint in the keystone catalog and one is used to impact specific behavior on the endpoint found in the catalog | 16:54 |
| mordred | but I don't think either of those words are good words | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | still slightly better than "microversion" IMO | 16:57 |
| dtantsur | anyway, I left a -1 for now with the goal of giving it some thought over the weekend | 16:57 |
| mordred | dtantsur: fwiw, I've contended for a while that microversions aren't actually any different from regular versions from an end-user perspective, they're just an alternate versioning mechanism. the main difference is that the python-*client libraries all make using catalog version discovery basically impossible, so adding microversions was a way to add version discovery that could be used by the broken | 16:57 |
| mordred | python-*client libraries | 16:57 |
| mordred | when what we should have done is just fixed the client libraries and made them stop being broken | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | yep, we should have.. | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | everytime I look at ironicclient I want to just rewrite it | 16:59 |
| mordred | dtantsur: just delete it | 16:59 |
| mordred | dtantsur: shift to openstacksdk | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | well, it may be the eventual course of our actions | 16:59 |
| mordred | dtantsur: ++ | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | but the problem is: people don't want to dedicate much time to these clients | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | they're kind of secondary | 16:59 |
| mordred | yah. exactly. this is why just using the sdk - or direct rest calls - is better - we don't have the collective resources to maintain all of python-*client | 17:00 |
| mordred | dtantsur: but yeah - let's ponder the naming over the weekend and chat next week more (also, sorry I wasn't in the room in dublin) | 17:01 |
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| JudeC | Hey guys, we noticed an issue when using the python-openstackclient to view limits. If Cinder isn't enabled the limits command will fail reporting that it is unable to find an endpoint for Cinder. | 17:05 |
| JudeC | I was considering proposing a "compute limits show" command to get around this issue. | 17:06 |
| JudeC | Unless someone else has a better suggestion for us. | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Run normalize_keys on config for session codepath https://review.openstack.org/547159 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Remove the need for OpenStackConfig in CloudRegion https://review.openstack.org/547488 | 17:16 |
| mordred | SamYaple: thanks. fixed the merge conflict | 17:16 |
| edleafe | mordred: yeah, nothing "micro" about them for users. They are full versions. | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Add support for trunk ports and subports https://review.openstack.org/556089 | 17:22 |
| cdent | elmiko, dtantsur|afk , edleafe https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter please and thank you | 17:24 |
| edleafe | cdent: the microversion history stuff isn't really a guideline, thoguh | 17:29 |
| edleafe | though | 17:29 |
| edleafe | not even a "sort of a guideline" | 17:29 |
| dtroyer | JudeC: the command needs to check for the presence of the volume service-type in the service catalog similar to how it already does for netowrk | 17:31 |
| cdent | it's an appendix | 17:31 |
| cdent | to the guidelines | 17:31 |
| cdent | exactly what I said | 17:31 |
| cdent | hmmm | 17:31 |
| * cdent never said it was a guideline, so is confused | 17:32 | |
| cdent | edleafe: I'm still inclined to say "[exist] to be published as an appendix to the guidelines" but I won't quibble. are you otherwise happy? | 17:34 |
| edleafe | we break up our stuff into guidelines and meta info about the group. I'm saying let's make a third section, and put it there. We can fight over the name, but IMO it doesn't fit into either of the existing two groups | 17:34 |
| JudeC | dtroyer, yeah but there is a void for showing limits if you don't have a volumes endpoint. That method for showing limits looks for the compute and and volumes endpoint without an option to do it if you only have nova without cinder. | 17:35 |
| edleafe | cdent: yeah, I don't see it as an appendix. It's separate | 17:35 |
| cdent | maybe I don't know what appendix means, doesn't matter | 17:36 |
| dtroyer | JudeC: right, that is the bug, it should check for all three endpoints actually, as there are also clouds without Nova | 17:36 |
| cdent | edleafe: otherwise okay? | 17:36 |
| edleafe | yeah | 17:37 |
| cdent | thanks | 17:37 |
| JudeC | dtroyer, oh cool there is already an open bug for this, https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1707960 | 17:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1707960 in python-openstackclient "openstack limits show can't work with cinderles stack" [Undecided,New] | 17:45 |
| JudeC | I will put a patch together for this. | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Add instance_ha service https://review.openstack.org/555710 | 18:20 |
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| edleafe | dtantsur|afk: So with the toctree, how can I preview without pushing the patch? I'd like to not have to have Gerrit in my workflow like that | 20:37 |
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