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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Breyer-Menke proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Support add/remove user to/from group https://review.openstack.org/569080 | 09:58 |
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| gtema | mordred: what is the default python version for shade-ansible tests? Is it the one from system? In openstacksdk tox it is set by default for python2, but not in shade. There is an issue in Ansible (https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/39472), which makes keypair role fail for me with python 3.6 | 15:56 |
| mordred | gtema: yeah - we're not setting it explicitly in the tox config. we should definitely fix that module with the fix in that issue ... do you have any interest in making a PR to ansible and I can approve it? (otherwise I can get it up there) | 16:02 |
| gtema | mordred: making it currently. Will be in couple of minutes | 16:10 |
| gtema | mordred: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/40341 | 16:18 |
| edleafe | elmiko: too late - the session was just announced: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130617.html | 16:32 |
| elmiko | edleafe: thanks for the heads up, and no worries | 16:36 |
| elmiko | i'm gonna see if i can just stay till thursday | 16:36 |
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| elmiko | cdent edleafe dtantsur, ready for review: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-sig-newsletter | 16:42 |
| elmiko | how did i drop bof from there... i had it in originally | 16:43 |
| elmiko | ++ good additions | 16:44 |
| edleafe | elmiko: done | 16:45 |
| elmiko | thanks edleafe ! | 16:45 |
| cdent | not much to add beyond what edleafe has said. what's there is fine, but if you want to make the second session sound more exciting you could order it a bit differently: it is _explicitly_ about how to drop old functionality | 16:47 |
| cdent | elmiko: ^ | 16:48 |
| edleafe | cdent: you should add wording to that effect then | 16:48 |
| cdent | i'm not sure how to say it. thus bouncing the idea here | 16:49 |
| elmiko | i changed it a little, see if that works | 16:49 |
| dtantsur | "clarify what it means when we bump the minimum microversion" ambitiously :) | 16:50 |
| * dtantsur expects a huuge flame war | 16:50 | |
| dtantsur | otherwise LGTM | 16:50 |
| elmiko | i like the reference point cdent | 16:51 |
| elmiko | dtantsur: haha, totally | 16:51 |
| elmiko | ooh, even more ambitious edleafe | 16:51 |
| edleafe | asbestos jackets are required | 16:52 |
| elmiko | hahaha, indeed! | 16:52 |
| edleafe | I changed my color. Blue is cdent | 16:52 |
| elmiko | oh, whoops | 16:52 |
| elmiko | then good show cdent | 16:52 |
| edleafe | our colors were too close | 16:52 |
| cdent | I just took what I added from the session description. I'm done. | 16:53 |
| elmiko | can we add (abestos jackets recommended) at the end? | 16:53 |
| elmiko | thanks for the help all, gonna publish | 16:53 |
| cdent | rumor has it all the firefighting will happen over beer beforehand | 16:53 |
| elmiko | +1 | 16:53 |
| edleafe | nah, let 'em figure it out themselves! | 16:53 |
| * dtantsur doesn't want to end up near mordred when he reads that :D | 16:54 | |
| cdent | so I phoned ahead to the vancouver breweries to prepare them for mordred and mugsie | 16:54 |
| elmiko | edleafe: haha | 16:54 |
| cdent | dtantsur: it was mordred's idea | 16:54 |
| cdent | (partly) | 16:54 |
| dtantsur | that's a plan: collect all people who want to bump the minimum version in one room aaaaand <invent your even ending> | 16:54 |
| dtantsur | s/even/evil/ | 16:55 |
| elmiko | sent | 16:55 |
| mugsie | well, there is one person who wants to `rm -rf microversions` going to be in that room :P | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | oh, I"m going to miss an epic battle :) | 16:56 |
| edleafe | Will we all have little flags to show our allegiances? | 16:57 |
| mugsie | that is a great idea :) | 16:57 |
| dtantsur | I have love-hate relationships with microversions | 17:00 |
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| cdent | I have no idea what flag to fly. | 17:08 |
| elmiko | cdent edleafe, ok, i'm good for wednesday too now =) | 17:22 |
| cdent | like I said: | 17:23 |
| * cdent is fascinated with elmiko's travel | 17:23 | |
| elmiko | hahaha | 17:23 |
| edleafe | how does that even work? | 17:25 |
| edleafe | I change a flight, and it's several hundred $$ | 17:25 |
| elmiko | they let me change for free, maybe status on delta? | 17:25 |
| cdent | didn't you buy your flight late? In which case it would be changeable anyway? | 17:32 |
| elmiko | good point, i was still in some sort of grace period | 17:32 |
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| mordred | dtantsur|afk: I'm all for bumping min microversions - I'm just arguing that doing so already has a name and a well-understood and supported system. it's called "bumping the major version" and we support it everywhere with no additional effort :) | 18:16 |
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| elmiko | mordred: i'm kinda curious about the effects on maintenance of keeping around old versions, like what if a team wants to move away from keeping the old code (assuming there is some rational reasoning behind it) | 18:53 |
| elmiko | or am i misunderstanding this issue? | 18:54 |
| cdent | elmiko: that's one of the main points of this discussion: making it possible to drop old versions | 19:01 |
| cdent | but doing it in concert | 19:01 |
| elmiko | yeah | 19:05 |
| elmiko | i just really appreciate mordred's take on the idea of bump max keep min, i'm curious to hear more about his thoughts | 19:05 |
| elmiko | i'm also trying to confirm that i understood this XD | 19:05 |
| elmiko | from a compatability standpoint i totally get it, i'm just concerned about the developer response to keeping old stuff | 19:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Collect timing information for API calls https://review.openstack.org/568877 | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Add oslo.config option for split-loggers https://review.openstack.org/568878 | 21:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Expose version_between as a real function https://review.openstack.org/568640 | 21:06 |
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| dmsimard|off | mordred, Shrews: does that ring you a bell ? http://paste.openstack.org/show/721195/ | 22:39 |
| dmsimard|off | when trying to use the openstack dynamic inventory | 22:39 |
| dmsimard|off | fresh install, afaict shade, os_client_config are installed etc | 22:39 |
| dmsimard|off | looks like https://github.com/openstack/os-client-config/commit/5c2eae8f8242332aff59d18b45a7d17f01524aaa | 22:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander D. proposed openstack/os-client-config master: fix saltstack breakage introduced in v1.31.0 https://review.openstack.org/569291 | 23:28 |
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