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| openstackgerrit | pengyuesheng proposed openstack/os-service-types master: Blacklist sphinx 2.1.0 (autodoc bug) https://review.opendev.org/687795 | 06:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | pengyuesheng proposed openstack/shade master: Blacklist sphinx 2.1.0 (autodoc bug) https://review.opendev.org/687800 | 07:04 |
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| elmiko | API SIG office hour started 3 minutes ago XD | 16:03 |
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| * cdent shakes elmiko's hand | 16:11 | |
| * elmiko shakes cdent's hand | 16:11 | |
| cdent | BUSINESS! | 16:11 |
| elmiko | LOL | 16:11 |
| elmiko | long time no talk, how's life? =) | 16:11 |
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| cdent | It's time to go to Healey's Cyder Farm and get a pumpkin | 16:13 |
| elmiko | ooh, nice! | 16:13 |
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| cdent | I did a thing recently that might be of api-sig interest, let me see if I can locate it | 16:15 |
| * mordred hands cdent a bucket | 16:16 | |
| elmiko | lol | 16:16 |
| cdent | can't find it | 16:18 |
| cdent | i hate etherpads | 16:18 |
| cdent | unless you bookmark them all, they are _gone_ | 16:18 |
| elmiko | yeah, i've always wondered about some sort of etherpad indexing service, but i don't know if that goes against the spirit of etherpad | 16:18 |
| cdent | there we go, yellow at the bottom: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-u-series-goals | 16:19 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 16:19 |
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| elmiko | cdent: if i read your intentions, are you suggesting we should have a "frameworks" guidance doc or something? | 16:20 |
| cdent | I'm not sure if I have an intention | 16:20 |
| cdent | It's more that there was a series of events: | 16:20 |
| elmiko | ack, misread on my part then | 16:20 |
| cdent | discussion in nova about how the api paste file is a pain | 16:20 |
| cdent | led to me saying "hey, I maintain pastedeploy, except I don't, we should stop using it" | 16:21 |
| cdent | then I saw http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/010037.html which mentioned that etherpad | 16:21 |
| cdent | so I hailed mary and added an old tune we've heard before | 16:21 |
| cdent | it kind of goes (to a nice blues beat) "let's stop using old stuff" | 16:21 |
| elmiko | lol, yeah | 16:22 |
| elmiko | i was under the impression that refactoring nova away from wsme and paste was considered a task too insurmountable for mere mortals. does it seem more realistic these days? | 16:22 |
| cdent | i went down to austin / for to make me some cloud / yeah I went down to austin / and that cloud was not bad ... | 16:23 |
| cdent | hmmm I am not a blues musician | 16:24 |
| cdent | nova doesn't use wsme, thank fully | 16:24 |
| elmiko | ahh, gotcha | 16:24 |
| elmiko | i'm so out of touch lol | 16:24 |
| cdent | but it does use pastedeploy | 16:24 |
| elmiko | got it | 16:24 |
| cdent | it's just that paste* and wsme are in a class of "old stuff" | 16:24 |
| elmiko | yeah | 16:25 |
| cdent | but yes, to bring it back round to the hereness of the api-sig | 16:25 |
| cdent | it might make sense to have a "for new projects and services use maintained tools, so don't use x, y, z" | 16:26 |
| elmiko | i like the way that is worded | 16:26 |
| elmiko | maybe like a general tech suggestion guideline | 16:27 |
| * cdent nods | 16:27 | |
| elmiko | i really don't want to get the api-sig into the business of naming and shaming, but i do like promoting good decision making based on sound principles | 16:27 |
| cdent | I think by saying "use maintained stuff and not these known dead things" avoids naming a champion and is factual about the dead things | 16:29 |
| elmiko | yes! | 16:31 |
| elmiko | totally agree | 16:31 |
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| cdent | most successful BUSINESS meeting ever | 16:32 |
| elmiko | i've been trying to work through the existing open pull requests we have, it's slow, but i think i could add this doc to the list. | 16:32 |
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| elmiko | thanks for the suggestion cdent, i've added it to my notes | 16:33 |
| cdent | \o/ | 16:33 |
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| elmiko | catch y'all later o/ | 17:02 |
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| enriquetaso | dtroyer, what do you think of this backport to stable/queens https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679120/1 ? Is it acceptable ? | 20:01 |
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