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openstackgerrit | Bence Romsics proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add command: router add/remove route --route https://review.opendev.org/674325 | 09:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Replace six.iteritems() with .items() https://review.opendev.org/481407 | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Bump min version of decorator https://review.opendev.org/701706 | 10:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Stop configuring install_command in tox and stop use pip. https://review.opendev.org/694484 | 12:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: Replace six.iteritems() with .items() https://review.opendev.org/701729 | 13:50 |
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mordred | smcginnis: wow. you found an old osc patch | 14:22 |
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smcginnis | mordred: I like to scroll to the oldest once and awhile to see what's been getting really stale. ;) | 14:31 |
mordred | smcginnis: I tink it's neat that that change has a +1 from both Jenkins and Zuul | 14:32 |
smcginnis | I actually abandoned at least one from 2016 that wasn't really relevant anymore but was still sitting out there. Probably a lot that could get cleaned up by now. | 14:32 |
smcginnis | Haha, yeah! | 14:32 |
mordred | smcginnis: that made me curious - my oldest still-open change: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/119920/ | 14:43 |
smcginnis | Nice! Any open patch that starts with a 1 is impressive. :) | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Bump min version of decorator https://review.opendev.org/701706 | 15:17 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-openstackclient master: Replace six.iteritems() with .items() https://review.opendev.org/481407 | 15:23 |
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sshnaidm | hi all | 15:57 |
elmiko | hi | 15:57 |
sshnaidm | anybody available for openstack ansible modules meeting in 2 minutes? | 15:58 |
dtantsur | o/ | 15:58 |
sshnaidm | mnaser, mordred, gtema | 15:59 |
gtema | yupp | 15:59 |
sshnaidm | odyssey4me | 16:00 |
sshnaidm | Shrews, | 16:00 |
elmiko | 2020 API SIG office hours start \o/ | 16:00 |
sshnaidm | sorry if forgot someone :) | 16:00 |
mordred | o/ | 16:00 |
sshnaidm | dtantsur, can you start the bot please? | 16:00 |
dtantsur | #startmeeting api-sig | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 9 16:00:54 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'api_sig' | 16:01 |
dtantsur | #chair sshnaidm elmiko | 16:01 |
openstack | Current chairs: dtantsur elmiko sshnaidm | 16:01 |
sshnaidm | yay | 16:01 |
sshnaidm | happy holidays everyone | 16:01 |
sshnaidm | welcome back to 2020 meetings.. | 16:01 |
dtantsur | what, work again?? | 16:01 |
dtantsur | I'm sorry, I already worked last year.. | 16:01 |
sshnaidm | dtantsur, no, to talk :) | 16:01 |
elmiko | hehe, ++ dtantsur | 16:01 |
sshnaidm | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-modules | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | our agenda ^^ | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | #topic Need to decide finally about the strategy | 16:02 |
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sshnaidm | oops | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | didn't mean it | 16:02 |
dtantsur | there is always #undo | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | #undo topic | 16:02 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Need to decide finally about the strategy | 16:02 |
sshnaidm | it's too complicated | 16:03 |
sshnaidm | we talked and sent mails about how we need to move modules | 16:03 |
sshnaidm | I just want to be sure we're all on the same page | 16:03 |
sshnaidm | I think we stopped on moving modules to ansible SIG repo, linking with new names in Ansible repo | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | and redesigning if need with kind deprecation notices | 16:04 |
gtema | right | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | is it correct ^ | 16:04 |
sshnaidm | any comments, objections ? | 16:05 |
sshnaidm | ok, let's move on | 16:05 |
sshnaidm | about freezing current modules in Ansible github repo | 16:06 |
sshnaidm | I notices we still have patches merging: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/commits/devel/lib/ansible/modules/cloud/openstack | 16:06 |
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sshnaidm | so, do we have a good way to make sure we really freeze them after a moving? | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | and we move them next week when gundalow is back from PTO | 16:07 |
gtema | drop permissions of cloudnull | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | mordred, stephenfin ^^ | 16:07 |
sshnaidm | gtema, :) | 16:07 |
gtema | he was approving lots of PRs | 16:08 |
sshnaidm | I'll talk with cloudnull | 16:08 |
sshnaidm | but I think we need to send something to Ansible core team | 16:08 |
sshnaidm | like make it official | 16:08 |
gtema | yeah, perhaps a good idea | 16:09 |
dtantsur | yep | 16:09 |
sshnaidm | and kindly to ask to ignore patches or make their bot to print a message there | 16:09 |
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sshnaidm | like "from now please use gerrit in .. blabla" | 16:09 |
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sshnaidm | #action sshnaidm to send message to Ansible core team about freezing OS modules | 16:10 |
mnaser | (sorry, i am in and out but following along) | 16:10 |
sshnaidm | mnaser, sure | 16:10 |
sshnaidm | ok, let's move on if no objections | 16:10 |
sshnaidm | Should we move modules with keeping history? | 16:10 |
Shrews | i think you'll probably need some process (and an actual collection) in place before they'll actually freeze them (if they even do) | 16:10 |
gtema | nope - ansible github is history | 16:11 |
mordred | yeah- I think moving with history is too much work at this point | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | Shrews, we will do it after a move I think | 16:11 |
sshnaidm | I think dtantsur had some experience with keeping history, was is complicated ? | 16:11 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Add a release note for Python 2 support removal https://review.opendev.org/701761 | 16:12 |
yoctozepto | hi (just listening today) | 16:12 |
dtantsur | splitting a subtree in git is not hard | 16:12 |
dtantsur | but submitting all the resulting patches to gerrit is going to kill our infra | 16:12 |
sshnaidm | dtantsur, ack | 16:12 |
dtantsur | so somebody will have to (force-)push them to gerrit | 16:12 |
dtantsur | that's what we did for ironic-tempest-plugin in the end | 16:12 |
dtantsur | (actually, we also merged two git trees from two repos, that was fun) | 16:12 |
mordred | if someone wants do to the subtree split, I can do the gerrit goo | 16:13 |
sshnaidm | any volunteers? ^ | 16:13 |
dtantsur | c'mon, it's fun! | 16:14 |
gtema | not me. I do not see any benefit | 16:14 |
sshnaidm | if no volunteers - not keeping history then | 16:14 |
* dtantsur assumes gtema has something to hide in `git blame` :D | 16:14 | |
dtantsur | sshnaidm: I can do it if people find it useful | 16:14 |
dtantsur | but I don't insist if nobody does | 16:14 |
dtantsur | time for a poll? :) | 16:15 |
sshnaidm | I think it might be useful, but not deal-breaker | 16:15 |
gtema | dtantsur - actually only very few fixes were really landed, so - nope ;-) | 16:15 |
* dtantsur hasn't used the poll functionality in a while | 16:15 | |
sshnaidm | dtantsur, does it have a poll? | 16:15 |
dtantsur | #poll Should we keep the git history of the moved modules? Yes, No | 16:15 |
dtantsur | given that it doesn't react, I might have done something wrong | 16:15 |
dtantsur | #startpoll Should we keep the git history of the moved modules? Yes, No | 16:16 |
sshnaidm | Yes, No | 16:16 |
sshnaidm | all right, let's make it simple.. no keeping history | 16:16 |
gtema | +1 | 16:16 |
sshnaidm | we have things to do beside that.. | 16:17 |
sshnaidm | let's move on | 16:17 |
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sshnaidm | next question - python 2/3 compatibility | 16:17 |
sshnaidm | Ansible supports from 2.6(?), but Openstack is moving to 3 completely. Should we stick to Ansible and support from 2.6/2.7? | 16:17 |
* dtantsur finally remembered it was #startvote | 16:18 | |
dtantsur | if openstacksdk drops python 2, we cannot support it | 16:18 |
sshnaidm | dtantsur, we can use it for this topic ^ ) | 16:18 |
dtantsur | haha, let's try | 16:18 |
dtantsur | #startvote Should we let Python 2 live? Yes, No, OMG | 16:18 |
openstack | Begin voting on: Should we let Python 2 live? Valid vote options are Yes, No, OMG. | 16:18 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 16:18 |
sshnaidm | OMG | 16:18 |
sshnaidm | #vote OMG | 16:19 |
dtantsur | #vote No | 16:19 |
gtema | #vote hehe | 16:19 |
openstack | gtema: hehe is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, OMG. | 16:19 |
sshnaidm | interesting, what gundalow thinks about it, but we'll know that only next week | 16:19 |
dtantsur | To elaborate on my vote: we're planning something forward-looking, and Python 2 is dead today | 16:19 |
gtema | # vote no | 16:19 |
gtema | #vote no | 16:19 |
dtantsur | anyone else wants to play with the vote functionality? :) | 16:20 |
gtema | #vote again - no | 16:20 |
openstack | gtema: again - no is not a valid option. Valid options are Yes, No, OMG. | 16:20 |
sshnaidm | gtema, dtantsur made it case sensitive :o | 16:20 |
dtantsur | it's not case sensitive, but it requires a valid option | 16:20 |
gtema | doesn't looke like that | 16:21 |
dtantsur | #endvote | 16:21 |
openstack | Voted on "Should we let Python 2 live?" Results are | 16:21 |
openstack | OMG (1): sshnaidm | 16:21 |
gtema | simly "no" was accepted | 16:21 |
openstack | No (2): gtema, dtantsur | 16:21 |
dtantsur | as you see ^^ | 16:21 |
sshnaidm | ah, worked | 16:21 |
sshnaidm | ok, I hope Ansible people won't be mad we break their 2.7 support.. | 16:21 |
mordred | sorry - juggling two meetings - #vote no :) | 16:22 |
gtema | too late | 16:22 |
sshnaidm | too late, we decided no :) | 16:22 |
mordred | looks like there were no yes votes anyway :) | 16:22 |
dtantsur | #agreed Unless gundalow objects next week, we won't keep Python 2 support | 16:22 |
mordred | \o/ | 16:22 |
sshnaidm | mordred, you just want to join the winning part! | 16:22 |
mordred | I mean - sdk isn't keeping python 2 support anyway | 16:22 |
mordred | so, you know, don't know that these modules have much choice :) | 16:22 |
dtantsur | :D | 16:23 |
gtema | yeah, but so far we haven't stripped it off | 16:23 |
mordred | this is true | 16:23 |
mordred | we *have* removed testing | 16:23 |
gtema | yes, that's true. But I explicitely was not starting to drop "six" | 16:23 |
gtema | hehe | 16:23 |
dtantsur | not tested == broken | 16:23 |
sshnaidm | very true ^ | 16:23 |
gtema | you forgot "if" in a comparison | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | ok, I think we finished all topics from agenda, and now - open discussions | 16:24 |
dtantsur | it's a boolean expression | 16:24 |
gtema | then it should be a single "=" | 16:24 |
sshnaidm | gtema, in boolean? | 16:25 |
dtantsur | gtema: I'm thinking in python :) | 16:25 |
gtema | open discussion - what is with jobs for proper testing and releasing? | 16:25 |
sshnaidm | gtema, good question | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | I configured a job that doesn't test anything for now | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698085/ | 16:26 |
dtantsur | on opendev writing jobs should be easier | 16:26 |
sshnaidm | it's a job that always was running in ansible patches | 16:27 |
gtema | everything is easy until you start doing that | 16:27 |
sshnaidm | so I'll configure it to run on current repo and it will be a start | 16:27 |
sshnaidm | we can run some tripleo jobs as well | 16:28 |
gtema | should we move func tests from SDK here, or link to SDK? | 16:28 |
dtantsur | I have a feeling that the new repo is a better place for tests | 16:28 |
gtema | and basically those SDK func tests must install collection first | 16:28 |
gtema | me too | 16:28 |
gtema | (not this "me too") | 16:29 |
sshnaidm | gtema, and apply a patch I suppose.. | 16:29 |
gtema | well, you can install collection from local | 16:29 |
sshnaidm | gtema, yeah, I think you make a tarball and then install it, iirc | 16:29 |
gtema | so it's basically just "ansible-galaxy collection build && ansible-galaxy collection install" | 16:29 |
gtema | exactly | 16:29 |
sshnaidm | yep | 16:30 |
dtantsur | zuul applies patches for you | 16:30 |
sshnaidm | well, I think it will be more clear when we move it finally | 16:30 |
sshnaidm | I'm not familiar with SDK jobs | 16:31 |
sshnaidm | but do we have there something | 16:31 |
sshnaidm | that can be helpful for modules as well? | 16:31 |
gtema | there are tests for modules | 16:31 |
sshnaidm | I suppose we need installed Openstack to run modules that change it | 16:31 |
sshnaidm | devstack, tripleo, whatever | 16:32 |
gtema | https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/tests/ansible | 16:32 |
mordred | yah - there is a module function test job that runs against devstack | 16:32 |
mordred | I totally agree, those should move into the collection repo once we've got it | 16:32 |
mordred | and we can still also trigger it from sdk for cross-testing | 16:32 |
gtema | sure | 16:32 |
mordred | essentially, it runs devstack and then runs the module tests against the api endpoint from the devstack | 16:33 |
mordred | it's not COMPREHENSIVE | 16:33 |
mordred | but it's a solid starting place | 16:33 |
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sshnaidm | as I see there are test actions, but not verifications..? like in https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/tests/ansible/roles/keystone_domain/tasks/main.yml | 16:34 |
dtantsur | ironic coverage can be provided by bifrost | 16:34 |
gtema | right | 16:34 |
mordred | sshnaidm: well, the verifications are a little implicit for now | 16:34 |
mordred | that update isn't going to work if the create didn't, etc ... but we can *definitely* improve these and make them better | 16:35 |
mordred | and should | 16:35 |
mordred | it's been harder to improve that with the modules in ansible/ansible and the tests in openstacksdk | 16:35 |
sshnaidm | yeah, maybe using molecule will be helpful too | 16:36 |
mordred | yah - maybe so - I hear you know something about that :) | 16:36 |
sshnaidm | for testing on various platforms for example | 16:36 |
gtema | not definitely - you want to mess with devstack and molecule? | 16:36 |
sshnaidm | mordred, yeah, we use it heavily now | 16:36 |
sshnaidm | devstack is providing openstack cloud | 16:37 |
sshnaidm | but all tests can be wrapped in molecule | 16:37 |
sshnaidm | for last triple module I just used keystone container for testing | 16:38 |
sshnaidm | and running os_keystone_* tasks with it | 16:38 |
sshnaidm | not even whole openstack | 16:38 |
sshnaidm | the same tried with ironic dev container | 16:38 |
mordred | cool | 16:39 |
mordred | like - my brain doesn't necessarily know how that all hangs together, but I could imagine seeing some patches would bea . good learning experience all around | 16:40 |
sshnaidm | OK, I think we agreed to design a good testing for modules after a move | 16:40 |
mordred | ++ | 16:40 |
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sshnaidm | anything else in your minds? | 16:40 |
sshnaidm | OK, I think we're good for today | 16:41 |
sshnaidm | and welcome back everyone | 16:41 |
mordred | happy new year! | 16:41 |
sshnaidm | +1 | 16:42 |
sshnaidm | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 9 16:42:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:42 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-09-16.00.html | 16:42 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-09-16.00.txt | 16:42 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_sig/2020/api_sig.2020-01-09-16.00.log.html | 16:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Add a release note for Python 2 support removal https://review.opendev.org/701761 | 17:10 |
openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/os-client-config master: Fix pep8 issue in o_c_c/__init__ https://review.opendev.org/701773 | 17:10 |
smcginnis | mordred and/or amotoki: Could you push through that stack? ^ | 17:19 |
smcginnis | Pretty trivial, then we can get a release request for milestone 1 updated and get that out. | 17:20 |
amotoki | smcginnis: I have no +2 right on os-client-config. we need to wait mordred | 17:21 |
smcginnis | amotoki: OK, thanks for reviewing! | 17:21 |
mordred | smcginnis: +A | 17:21 |
smcginnis | Awesome, thanks | 17:22 |
openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/openstacksdk master: "qos_network_policy_id" attribute added to port resource https://review.opendev.org/693247 | 17:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add qos_network_policy_id to network port https://review.opendev.org/701786 | 17:54 |
KeithMnemonic | any chance to please get these moving along? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701293/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701378/ dtroyer, amotoki | 17:56 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstacksdk master: Replace six.iteritems() with .items() https://review.opendev.org/701729 | 17:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add support for app cred access rules https://review.opendev.org/677857 | 18:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add qos_network_policy_id to network port https://review.opendev.org/701786 | 18:32 |
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KeithMnemonic | thanks for all of the effort it seems python-openstackclient on train is working better now. reviews please https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701299/ | 18:51 |
openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Add qos_network_policy_id to network port https://review.opendev.org/701786 | 18:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config master: Fix pep8 issue in o_c_c/__init__ https://review.opendev.org/701773 | 20:05 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-client-config master: Add a release note for Python 2 support removal https://review.opendev.org/701761 | 20:05 |
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mordred | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/701854 | 22:27 |
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