Monday, 2015-05-04

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openstackgerritMichael Simo proposed openstack/security-doc: Reworded sentence in chapter 7 of security-guide  https://review.openstack.org/17802103:56
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openstackgerritAnthony Chow proposed openstack/security-doc: Bug fix for 1447655.  Modify paragraph for better grammer and clarity as requested by the ticket.  https://review.openstack.org/17970106:03
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L0aD1nGhello what is this channel about?13:41
elmikofor discussions about openstack security related topics13:43
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L0aD1nGwhat is the definition of "openstack security" then??13:49
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elmikonot sure what you mean13:58
elmikoL0aD1nG: http://security.openstack.org/ maybe that helps13:59
L0aD1nGelmiko: so openstack is a cloud service13:59
L0aD1nG?13:59
L0aD1nGand here is the security related discussions about it?14:00
elmikoyou might want to start here, http://docs.openstack.org/14:00
elmikoit's a collection of opensource services used for creating cloud infrastructures14:00
L0aD1nGohh14:01
elmiko(and in this sense services==applications)14:01
L0aD1nGyea14:01
L0aD1nGthanks a lot14:01
elmikonp14:01
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L0aD1nGcya around elmiko14:09
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elmikotmcpeak: you may find this interesting14:14
elmikotmcpeak: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=121785714:14
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1217857 in Package Review "Review Request: bandit - A framework for performing security analysis of Python source code" [Medium,New] - Assigned to nobody14:14
elmikoa coworker proposed bandit for inclusion in fedora14:15
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tmcpeakelmiko: checking14:16
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tmcpeakelmiko: awesome!!14:16
elmikotmcpeak: yea, i thought you'd find that amusing =)14:18
elmikoi guess he's been running it against of system level stuff he's using too14:19
tmcpeakthe more the merrier :) we love to see people using it14:19
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openstackgerritVictor Howard proposed openstack/security-doc: Dashboard in Security Guide Bad Sentence  https://review.openstack.org/17980214:55
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openstackgerritVictor Howard proposed openstack/security-doc: Added detail to the allowed hosts section  https://review.openstack.org/17981015:11
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openstackgerritTravis McPeak proposed stackforge/bandit: Adding /usr/local/etc/bandit/ to paths for Bandit config checking  https://review.openstack.org/17989419:38
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tmcpeakdstufft: you around?20:22
dstuffttmcpeak: hi20:28
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tmcpeakdstufft: hi, still there?20:48
tmcpeakhad some questions about how to properly package a config file20:48
tmcpeakfor Bandit20:48
dstufftsure20:48
dstufftthe answer might not be very good though :)20:48
tmcpeaklol20:48
tmcpeakthat's what I've seen so far20:49
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tmcpeakI mean not from you but packaging in general20:49
tmcpeakso Bandit requires a config file to run20:49
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tmcpeakwe do some checks in the local directory, and the user's directory to allow them to override20:49
tmcpeakbut we're somewhat confused about where it will be installed when we do pip install20:50
tmcpeakif it is in a virtual environment it goes to the virtualenv etc directory, which works fine20:50
tmcpeakif it isn't in a virtual environment it seems to *sometimes* go to /usr/local/etc/bandit and sometimes not20:50
tmcpeakis it system dependent?20:50
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brownetmcpeak: In bandit.yaml, where is the wordlist/default-passwords file?  Is this something each exploiter of bandit should create?20:55
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tmcpeakbrowne: no… that's probably another thing we haven't packaged correctly20:55
tmcpeakit's supposed to come with Bandit, although I'm sure the binary install isn't setting that up20:55
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browneoh, i don't see it in the bandit source tree either20:56
tmcpeakhmm, really?20:56
browneoh, wait, yes, i did find, sorry20:56
tmcpeakcool20:56
browneok, so I think it'll try to load that file using the relative path in bandit.yaml, which will fail for most other projects20:58
browneguess i'll open a bug20:58
tmcpeakbrowne: cool, please do20:59
tmcpeakdstufft: if you have any pointer on the above, I'll greatly appreciate it21:03
dstuffttmcpeak: oh you're using data files?21:03
tmcpeakdstufft: we currently have this, https://github.com/stackforge/bandit/blob/master/setup.cfg#L2621:03
tmcpeakwhich doesn't seem to fulfill all of our hopes and dreams21:04
dstufftyea...21:04
dstufftdata files don't really work in the general case21:04
dstufftI mean21:04
dstufftit works in that we'll put the file somewhere21:04
dstufftthat somewhere might not be where you expect21:04
tmcpeakdstufft: yeah, I've kind of seen taht21:04
tmcpeakwhat's best practice?21:04
dstufftgenerally I recommend using package_data where possible21:04
dstufftat least until we make data files work sanely21:05
tmcpeakdstufft: something like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13288188/how-to-properly-define-package-data-in-setup-py ?21:05
dstuffttmcpeak: yea that looks right, not sure how to translate that to pbr exactly, but something like that21:06
dstufftit'll be *inside* the bandit package then21:06
tmcpeakok cool, I think that's what we want21:06
tmcpeakdstufft: awesome, thank you.  I'll give that a shot21:06
dstufftso you'll do something like os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), "default.yml") to get it21:06
dstufftor if you want to support zip stuff, you can use pkgutil.get_data21:06
tmcpeakdstufft: perfect21:06
tmcpeakdstufft: also, welcome to the dark side :P21:07
dstufftwhich dark side is this21:07
tmcpeakHP21:07
dstufftthere are many dark sides, and I'm in more than one21:07
dstufftoh!21:07
dstufftyes :D21:07
tmcpeakwhich office you in?21:08
dstufftmy living room21:08
tmcpeakexcellent :)21:08
dstufftI mean, there's the king of prussia office like 5-10 minutes away, and the wayne office like 20 minutes away21:08
dstufftbut I have no intention of spending time there once I get my I9 form done21:09
tmcpeakhaha, that's an above industry average commute ;)21:09
dstufftwho wants to wear pants while they're working anyways21:09
tmcpeak+121:10
tmcpeakdstufft: thanks for the pointer!21:10
dstufftAt least, I assume HP frowns on not wearing pants if you're in the office21:10
dstuffttmcpeak: no problem!21:10
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