Thursday, 2015-07-23

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Adding Dashboard RST file  https://review.openstack.org/20434000:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updating Databases section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20438000:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Convert introduction-to-openstack to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20475001:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Conversion of introduction-to-case-studies.rst  https://review.openstack.org/20468401:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Initial tenant-data conversion to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20467701:14
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openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Identity section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20443504:10
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openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Messaging section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20488005:02
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/20489706:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/20489707:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/20494208:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/20494209:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/anchor: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/20504412:48
Daviey\o/12:49
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tkelseyheh nice :)13:09
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openstackgerritTim Kelsey proposed openstack/bandit: Adding documentation  https://review.openstack.org/20413614:00
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tkelseyo/ tmcpeak I just added some more words to the docs patch14:01
tmcpeaktkelsey: sweet, I'll take a proper look14:03
tkelseyty14:03
tkelseyabout 50% of plugins have words now14:04
tmcpeakawesome, that's a big push you're makin14:04
tmcpeakg14:04
tkelseyI aim to finish the first pass this week14:04
tmcpeakbtw: https://review.openstack.org/17956614:05
tmcpeak^ Bandit for nova!14:05
tmcpeakgreat work browne14:05
tmcpeakwherever he is ;)14:05
tkelseyoh yeah i did see that :) awesome stuff browne14:05
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tmcpeakdamn tkelsey, I love these docs14:13
tkelsey:) im slowly getting RST blindness lol14:13
tkelseybut its getting there14:13
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tkelseythank for the input tmcpeak, responded14:29
tmcpeaksweet14:30
tmcpeaktkelsey: yeah, I see your point about profiles14:35
tmcpeakyou're right, everybody does use include or severity filter, nobody has used exclude14:36
tkelseytmcpeak: yeah its not needed14:36
tmcpeakinteresting point on the XML tests14:37
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tkelseyyeah, im documenting stuff as I go. Eventually I'll go i and fix stuff (unless someone gets there first)14:42
tmcpeakawesome14:42
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openstackgerritDoug Chivers proposed openstack/security-doc: Update Compliance section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20509915:03
* Daviey wonders if he is the only one that prefers reviewing small changes15:08
sicarieWhat, a 736 line update isn't your preferred review?15:09
tmcpeakDaviey: I think that's universal, but also doesn't necessarily make sense when you're trying to make a big change15:09
tkelseyDaviey: nope, but docs seem to get big fast :-/15:09
elmikoi prefer small for code reivews, but this stuff is pretty quick15:09
tmcpeakit would bother me more to have to go cross-reference another change15:09
Davieyelmiko: True.. until there are problems15:09
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elmikofair15:11
Davieyelmiko: I mean, look at at the comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203916/15:11
elmikoDaviey: that doesn't bug me, i'd rather get it all done in one place than have it spread out across 5 reviews15:12
elmikothat being said, i can definitely empathize with the other side of the fence ;)15:12
DavieyOkay, i guess i differ then..15:13
DavieyI split mine up to make it easier for reviewers, but if reviewers prefer larger ones.. i'm not helping them!15:13
elmikoi'm also willing to adjust to the team, so if folks would prefer single file changes i don't have a problem doing that15:13
elmikolol, jinx!15:13
tmcpeakbig reviews are painful either way, no winning :)15:14
Davieytmcpeak: gah, now i have no idea what i should do.15:14
* sigmavirus24 should start reviewing that stuff15:14
sigmavirus24lol15:15
elmikoDaviey: just keep going with what is comfortable =)15:15
tmcpeakdoesn't matter, no winning :D15:15
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elmikoimo, this is very much a personal preference situation. if it makes your life easier to create smaller reviews, then i say keep doing that =)15:15
elmikomaybe others will see the wisdom inherent in that and follow suit ;)15:16
sigmavirus24Daviey: do you have a link to one of your chains versus a giant single patch review?15:16
sigmavirus24elmiko: so there's a pretty good study that code review for a single sitting shouldn't be larger than "200-400 lines"15:16
sigmavirus24While that was mostly targetted towards /code/ I think it could apply here too15:16
Davieysigmavirus24: SO +736, -0 is too much?15:16
sigmavirus24or some variant of it15:16
sigmavirus24Daviey: like I said, they were studying /code/ review15:17
elmikosigmavirus24: i totally agree with that, for code i'm all for small patches.15:17
Davieyyeah, fair enough15:17
tkelseyhow about +1868, -0 :-/15:17
sigmavirus24I'm saying, it probably wouldn't hurt here15:17
sigmavirus24so yeah15:17
sigmavirus24The thing is, large reviews are going to be universally LONG15:17
sigmavirus24It'll take multiple sittings15:17
sigmavirus24We should be optimising for one review requiring one sitting15:17
sigmavirus24And a sitting should be optimized for ~1 hr15:17
sigmavirus24After an hour, people tend to not catch problems as well15:18
Davieysigmavirus24: So i quite like writing stub sections, https://github.com/openstack/security-doc/commit/5462900e6f4f3def60dce03fcf1392b7e247afa2 .. Then have a single commit for each Section15:18
DavieyPersonally, i like to bang through a single review in <10mins.15:19
Davieynearer 5.15:19
sigmavirus24Daviey: yeah that may be ideal but isn't always going to be reality15:19
sigmavirus24but it's better than the 2500+ LOC diffs for some of the artifacts changes to Glance from Kilo15:20
elmikoside question, what's with the rst link format `text <link>`__ , i thought it was single underscore?15:20
sigmavirus24elmiko: it is a single one15:20
sigmavirus24Or at least, all you need is a single one15:20
elmikoi'm guessing it eats the second one?15:20
sigmavirus24Unless that's alternative syntax for :ref:15:20
sigmavirus24elmiko: think so15:20
DavieyAnyone else notice the rst doc's that were hosted on sourcefail^Dforge ?15:20
Davieyare now 40415:20
elmikoyea, they are having some issues... sounded like a hardware failure from the blog15:21
sigmavirus24also if you do something llike "The `foo <link>`_s are all blah" it eats the s15:21
elmikohmm, curious15:21
sigmavirus24Daviey: sphinx-doc has all of the reST docs + more15:21
sigmavirus24elmiko: the way around that is `foo <link>`_\ s15:21
sigmavirus24to get foo to be linkified and s not to be15:21
elmikogood to know, i think there are a few links that i'll have to revisit15:22
DavieyWhy doesn't doc8 find this?15:23
DavieyI also noticed we have pretty inconsistent usage of the glossary usage..15:24
elmikosounds like good bug fodder15:25
sigmavirus24Daviey: doc8 isn't all knowing15:25
sigmavirus24doc8 has plenty of bugs15:25
sigmavirus24bash8 (similarly) hasn't been released in over a year15:26
sigmavirus24Even though several bugs/improvements have been made in that t ime15:26
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Converting API endpoints section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20389415:27
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sigmavirus24Back to the topic, I'm thinking that single file updates are good for reviewers if people are okay conforming to that but I haven't been participating so not my call =P15:29
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elmikoi'm ok with that15:32
elmikosicarie: so, there are some open docs in the dashboard, documentation, compute, and networking. you did the initial chapter conv, are you working on any of the sections?15:35
sicarieelmiko: unfortunately I thought this conversion was going to occur next week so I have a full plate this week15:35
sicarieIfi ti's not in gerrit, I have not started it15:36
elmikook, no worries, just wanted to ask before i pick up another doc15:36
sicariethanks! Yeah, please feel free to grab them15:37
sicarieSorry, I'm not doing more15:37
sicarieelmiko: review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204184/15:37
elmikoi'm gonna start by marking the etherpad, so we know what's out there15:37
sicarie+1 good idea15:37
elmikodone15:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updating Monitoring and Logging ch file to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20418415:42
DavieyAt this rate, it is quite plausible we could have conversion done by EoW15:43
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nkindertmcpeak: heads up - I can't make the meeting today15:53
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elmikoDaviey: let's do it!15:54
chair6Daviey: looks like you're busy with the docs stuff which is cool, but did you need anything else from me on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203451/?  i'm out for 3 weeks after tomorrow, just making sure..15:54
tmcpeaknkinder: ok cool, fair enough15:56
tmcpeakyou want me to say anything about notes?15:56
openstackgerritDoug Chivers proposed openstack/security-doc: Update Compliance section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20509915:57
Davieychair6: No, you provided me everything i needed..  I just need to do it.  Would you rather it didn't land in your absence ?15:58
Davieychair6: Scrub that, i'll try and get it fixed up before you go tomorrow.. Solves the problem.16:03
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tmcpeakbrowne: great work on Nova!16:03
browneyeah, finally it got in.  now to add the gate job and the rest16:04
tmcpeakawewsome!16:05
chair6Daviey: nope, not at all - just making sure i'm not holding things up :)16:10
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Compute chapter to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20391616:10
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nkindertmcpeak: I don't have much of an update on notes16:17
tmcpeaknkinder: ok cool, we'll defer until next week then16:19
Davieytmcpeak: It looked like you had moved bug 1464750 along.16:19
openstackbug 1464750 in OpenStack Security Notes "Service accounts can be used to login horizon" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464750 - Assigned to Travis McPeak (travis-mcpeak)16:19
tmcpeakDaviey: yeah, although the recommended fix is fairly detailed, so I'm going to carve off a day or so next week to play with it in depth with devstack and make sure I know what I'm talking about16:20
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Documentation section from DocBook to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20393316:23
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Davieytmcpeak / nkinder: I'm sitting on my OSSN, i was hoping that the fix would land rather than me having to leave a comment stating "Will be fixed soon kkthnx", which feels a bit sucky for an OSSN16:25
nkinderDaviey: we can always revise the OSSN later too16:26
Davieynkinder: Yeah, ok - i'll progress it this week then.16:26
Davieynkinder: The question about affected services was an odd one that I don't think was clear.. The point i was trying to convey was that it affects *anything* which uses keystone.16:28
openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Identity section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20443516:29
tmcpeakDaviey: that's pretty much all OpenStack services, right?16:29
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: adding dashboard chapter section skeletion  https://review.openstack.org/20514716:30
tmcpeakthere are some examples for "affects all services" see the poodle note:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OSSN/OSSN-003916:30
elmikosicarie, Daviey ^^16:30
Davieytmcpeak: Yeah, but also potentially wider than that.. Starting to see non-openstack projects using keystone aswell.16:30
Davieytmcpeak: Ah, thanks16:30
tmcpeakhah, really?16:30
tmcpeakI guess that makes sense16:31
Davieytmcpeak: Well, before Ceph was close to openstack it added it.. but I also know of a vendor implementing object storage as an appliance which plugs(-ish) into keystone16:32
tmcpeakoh, interesting16:32
DavieyOh, they've gone public with it - http://blogs.hds.com/hu/2015/01/hcp-raises-the-bar-for-object-storage-with-integrated-content-mobility-solutions.html16:32
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openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Uploading networking ch file  https://review.openstack.org/20434116:34
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Uploading networking ch file  https://review.openstack.org/20434116:35
nkinderDaviey: I think it's fine to say that it's Keystone.  Since Keystone is reponsible for authz, it's almost always the case that a security problem in keystone has ramifications on anything that uses it16:37
Davieynkinder: True, thanks16:44
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard case studies to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20515616:51
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard debug section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20515816:56
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Converting API endpoints section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20389417:02
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard cookies section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20516117:02
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard cors section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20517417:12
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/security-doc: Prepare for translation of common files  https://review.openstack.org/20517717:15
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard secret key section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20518017:19
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard static media section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20518517:26
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard caching section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20519417:38
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bknudsontmcpeak: I'm confirmed to attend the mid-cycle17:59
bknudsonI've got my tickets17:59
tmcpeakbknudson: great!  looking forward to seeing you there18:00
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openstackgerritDoug Chivers proposed openstack/security-doc: Update Compliance section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20509918:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Prepare for translation of common files  https://review.openstack.org/20517718:30
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Converting API endpoints section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20389418:33
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Compute chapter to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20391618:37
openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Management section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20522718:38
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/security-doc: Blacklist common-rst for translation  https://review.openstack.org/20523018:42
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Documentation section from DocBook to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20393318:46
openstackgerritDoug Chivers proposed openstack/security-doc: Migrated monitoring and logging section. Todo fix ref link once the patch with the anchor has been merged.  https://review.openstack.org/20523318:49
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openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Uploading networking ch file  https://review.openstack.org/20434118:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Convert why-and-how-we-wrote-this-book to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20476519:09
openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Identity section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20443519:12
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard https section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20524619:15
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tmcpeakruh roh19:21
lamismahola19:21
tmcpeak:\19:22
tmcpeaklamisma, what?19:22
lamisma:-*19:22
tmcpeakbug time: http://paste.openstack.org/show/404547/19:22
lamismacomo te llamas19:23
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elmikolol19:26
tmcpeakwhat can I say, we're big in the Spanish speaking world19:27
elmikoyea, seriously19:27
tmcpeakI blame you elmiko, I think you're attracting them19:27
tmcpeak;)19:27
elmikoi just hope it's not like "those openstack security folks are the biggest set of d-bags" lol19:27
elmikoi do have a magnetic personality ;)19:28
tmcpeakhaha19:28
tmcpeakand a Spanish friendly sounding handle19:28
elmikotrue19:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: adding dashboard chapter section skeletion  https://review.openstack.org/20514719:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard cors section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20517419:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard case studies to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20515619:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard cookies section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20516119:29
dg_elmiko daviey where do images live in the security-guide-rst directory structure?19:30
elmikohuzzah \o/19:30
elmikodg_: in security-guide-rst/source/figures19:30
elmikothen just reference using relative notation, for example if editing dashboard/cookies.rst i would use ".. image:: ../figure/cookie-monster.png"19:31
dg_thanks19:32
elmikonp19:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard caching section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20519419:32
sicarieelmiko: quick review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205230/19:36
sicarie?19:36
elmikosure thing19:38
elmikosicarie: done and done ;)19:38
sicariethanks!19:39
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Davieydg_: did you get your answer?19:45
Daviey(on my mobile)19:45
dg_Daviey yes thankyou, multiple replies that all agree :)19:46
Davieydg_: if the is an svg file aswell as a png, make sure you copy both. :)19:46
dg_ok19:47
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard config section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20525919:48
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Uploading networking ch file  https://review.openstack.org/20434119:55
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard debug section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20515819:57
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard https section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20524620:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard secret key section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20518020:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard static media section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20518520:05
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Converting API endpoints section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20389420:10
sigmavirus24In case anyone's running on Red Hat: http://openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/07/23/1620:22
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Documentation section from DocBook to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20393320:22
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openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Uploading networking ch file  https://review.openstack.org/20434120:26
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Compute chapter to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20391620:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Blacklist common-rst for translation  https://review.openstack.org/20523020:29
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elmikosicarie: that compute chapter is causing some issues20:38
sicarieThat compute chapter is one big issue20:39
elmikolol!20:39
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sigmavirus24elmiko: is it putting up a fight?20:44
elmikosigmavirus24: definitely, but i'm battling it with my axe!20:44
sigmavirus24oh20:44
sigmavirus24I was going to lend my axe too20:44
elmikosicarie: what is the source doc for hardneing-the-virtualization-layers.rst?20:46
elmikosicarie: nvm, found it20:47
elmikosigmavirus24: greatly appreciated, i think we got this in hand. just some minor cleanups20:48
Davieysigmavirus24: If you want to do a section, there are still a couple available20:49
sigmavirus24Daviey: I was mostly hoping to make a reference to a meme for comic relief20:49
elmikoLOL20:49
sigmavirus24elmiko: gets it now20:50
Davieyahh!20:52
openstackgerritDoug Chivers proposed openstack/security-doc: Update Compliance section to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20509920:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard config section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20525921:03
elmikosicarie: man, you weren't kidding21:05
sicarieabout which one?21:05
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sicariecompute or dashboard?21:05
sicariebtw thanks for taking that21:05
sicarieI knew that and compute were going to be the rough ones21:06
sicarieAs I was already familiar with compute because I was adding to it, I figured the other core should take the other tough one :)21:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: conversion of dashboard debug section to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20515821:07
elmikosicarie: compute...21:08
sicarieYeah, I was hoping to get one more change into the compute chapter and be able to touch itup a bit better before the RST migration21:08
elmikodo you mind if i push a change to the compute review?21:10
sicarienot at all21:10
elmikok, i think i almost have the bugs worked out21:10
sicarieawesome!21:10
openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert tenant-data/data-privacy-concerns to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20529721:11
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elmikoalmost... this one has got be the worst, with all these tables and whatnot21:11
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openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert tenant-data/data-encryption to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20529821:25
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openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Compute chapter to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20391621:29
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elmikosicarie: ^^21:31
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elmikoi've beaten the compute chapter into submission21:31
sicarieelmiko: awesome21:31
sicarieI'm working on networking right now - i'm definitely impressed by the progress21:32
elmikowe need to fixup that security features table, but it's functional for now21:32
sicarieyeah, the values I threw in there were because I hadn't touched list-table before, so thanks for taking those21:33
elmikoadded a bug note for it21:33
sicarieawesome21:33
elmikonp, it just looks messy21:33
elmikofunctional, but messy21:33
sicarieTHat's okay21:33
sicariewe're going to have a bit of cleanup work re:section heading 'conventions' so doing a table won't be anything extreme21:34
sicariewoo-hoo! api section finally passed tox: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203894/21:35
openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert tenant-data/key-management to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20530021:37
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elmikosicarie: nice!21:41
elmikook, i gotta jet, but i'll more reviews later tonight (hopefully)21:42
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openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert tenant-data/case-studies to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20530321:47
openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert tenant-data/case-studies to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20530321:50
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Migrating Networking case studies  https://review.openstack.org/20530521:52
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openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Management section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20522722:03
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openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Messaging section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20488022:17
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FabulousChickenFhello22:37
openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Conversion of Object Storage chapter to rst  https://review.openstack.org/20396522:45
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openstackgerritPriti Desai proposed openstack/security-doc: Updating Identity section files to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20443523:08
openstackgerritNathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Migrating Networking Architecture page  https://review.openstack.org/20532123:19
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openstackgerritDave Walker proposed openstack/security-doc: Convert security-boundaries-and-threats to RST  https://review.openstack.org/20477423:40
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