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| tmcpeak | dstufft: you going under cover? :P | 14:43 |
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| michaelxin | @vinaypotluri ? | 15:58 |
| michaelxin | unrahul: ? | 15:59 |
| michaelxin | vinaypotluri: ? | 15:59 |
| unrahul | yup Michael | 15:59 |
| michaelxin | What size of T-shirt do you wear? | 15:59 |
| unrahul | Large | 15:59 |
| michaelxin | Trying to get OSIC T-shirts for you two. | 15:59 |
| michaelxin | How about vinay? | 15:59 |
| unrahul | Cool Michael, Thanks. | 16:00 |
| vinaypotluri | Small | 16:01 |
| vinaypotluri | michaelxin small size | 16:02 |
| michaelxin | Got it. Thanks | 16:02 |
| michaelxin | I will send an email to Homer and include you two. | 16:02 |
| michaelxin | How is testing against broken API using Syntribos? | 16:03 |
| michaelxin | It should help you guys get better understanding about the process of API security testing. | 16:03 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: what i got from it, we are leasing way too many options to the end user | 16:03 |
| michaelxin | my concern is about adding values to the end user | 16:04 |
| unrahul | there is very lil decision making, and as the tool is meant for developers and not security ppl I think, we should add bit more logic into it ,I feel that would make decision making for the end user easier | 16:05 |
| michaelxin | Especially about the findings. | 16:05 |
| unrahul | yes.. | 16:05 |
| michaelxin | No, the tool is meant for the security ppl. | 16:05 |
| michaelxin | :-) | 16:05 |
| michaelxin | We need to work on it | 16:05 |
| michaelxin | That is why we need you all | 16:05 |
| unrahul | but then, when we integrate to the pipeline for example keystone or something, wouldnt it be better if the results are bit more focussed and clear cut? | 16:06 |
| michaelxin | Even for broken API, the results should be more focused and clear cut. | 16:07 |
| michaelxin | There is a tech talk this afternoon about Ansible security and openstack | 16:07 |
| unrahul | yup I agree | 16:07 |
| unrahul | oh!.. in rackspace.?? | 16:07 |
| michaelxin | yes | 16:07 |
| michaelxin | Tech Talk about Automated security hardening with OpenStack-Ansible | 16:08 |
| michaelxin | SAT6-2367-Snow Crash /VC; Vidyo room: 6431 | 16:08 |
| michaelxin | 2:00 - 3:00pm | 16:08 |
| michaelxin | unrahul: Is the team using IRC a lot? | 16:08 |
| michaelxin | I do not think so. | 16:08 |
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| michaelxin | Wonder why you guys do not use IRC as often as I expect? | 16:09 |
| unrahul | oh.. thanks MIchael will join in | 16:09 |
| unrahul | we do it not that often I guess.. | 16:10 |
| michaelxin | We can do it more. | 16:14 |
| michaelxin | I will ask questions more here. | 16:14 |
| michaelxin | :-) | 16:14 |
| michaelxin | I will miss the standup today. | 16:14 |
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| michaelxin | unrahul: ccneill: How was the standup? | 16:39 |
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| ccneill | michaelxin: sounds like there may be some lingering errors in my signals code that unrahul has found, so we'll try to get that worked out today | 16:50 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: also set up a 30 minute meeting tomorrow for us to discuss the questions we have here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/syntribos-signals | 16:50 |
| michaelxin | cool | 16:50 |
| michaelxin | nice job! unrahul! | 16:51 |
| ccneill | trying to get feedback on those questions today before the meeting tomorrow so that we're not trying to come up with our thoughts on the spot in the meeting | 16:51 |
| michaelxin | here is a good place to talk about them. | 16:51 |
| michaelxin | :-) | 16:51 |
| ccneill | any feedback would be appreciated if you have time to take a look | 16:51 |
| ccneill | sure | 16:51 |
| ccneill | this room is good for discussion, but not so much for preserving the conversation we have | 16:52 |
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| michaelxin | Every convesation is logged | 16:53 |
| unrahul | thanks michaelxin , we are trying out the singals (http_signal2 branch) approach of writing tests | 16:53 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: sure, but it's not as easy to sift through if it's not categorized | 16:53 |
| ccneill | unrahul: have you compared http_signal vs. http_signal2? | 16:54 |
| michaelxin | That's true. | 16:54 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: the version ccneill wrote where signals uses an overloaded constructor and signals is kinda split into issues. | 16:54 |
| ccneill | I'm leaning toward the http_signal2 approach (no custom "signal types"), but curious what y'alls thoughts are | 16:54 |
| michaelxin | There is no perfect solutino. | 16:54 |
| michaelxin | Where is Mdong? | 16:55 |
| mdong | I’m here | 16:55 |
| michaelxin | cool | 16:55 |
| mdong | I’ve also been adding to the etherpad | 16:55 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: ccneill mdong did you guys get time to check the way wfuzz shows results to the end user..? what do you guys think.? | 16:56 |
| michaelxin | Did you guys all spend time running Syntribos again the broken API? Review the results? Check the output for findings? | 16:57 |
| michaelxin | Not yet. | 16:57 |
| michaelxin | unrahul: Will look for sur. | 16:57 |
| michaelxin | I have something that I want. | 16:57 |
| ccneill | unrahul: not yet | 16:57 |
| michaelxin | :-) | 16:57 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: yea we did Michael, I felt it was way too generic/broad and we need to add more logic to the tool end result to give more informed suggestions, dont know if its the rating approach that ccneill suggested , but something should be there. | 16:58 |
| michaelxin | We need to streamline it. Category it based on severity. | 16:58 |
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| michaelxin | We need to do basic stuff. | 16:59 |
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| michaelxin | IRC meeting | 17:01 |
| ccneill | michaelxin: /j #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:01 |
| ccneill | derp derp derp.. | 17:01 |
| ccneill | ignore me | 17:01 |
| michaelxin | after a two hour meeting for test strategy, need a break. | 17:02 |
| michaelxin | :-) | 17:02 |
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| ccneill | oof | 17:05 |
| ccneill | I bet | 17:05 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: you around? | 17:23 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: I'm around, but in the middle of meetings | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:24 |
| tmcpeak | we've got another published OSSN, do you still want to handle the wiki and announce and stuff? | 17:24 |
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| unrahul | Thanks michaelxin , we got the OSIC shirts!! | 17:41 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: yeah, I can handle it this afternoon | 17:52 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: the output ryt now looks like this, https://gist.github.com/rahulunair/37ef27908c92af9bdcd5ebef2663a350 , as we saw in the last meeting | 17:52 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: thank you! | 17:53 |
| unrahul | michaelxin: this doesn't really put forward a concrete set of issues, but a lot of warnings, we really want to clean it up a bit, may be use error codes, and wiki approach . | 17:54 |
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| michaelxin | unrahul: Coool. | 18:19 |
| michaelxin | Glad that you get your shirts. | 18:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nathaniel Dillon proposed openstack/security-doc: Added data loss prevention (DLP) to glossary https://review.openstack.org/327869 | 18:40 |
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| nkinder | tmcpeak: just to confirm, this is OSSN-0063, right? | 19:13 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: yep! | 19:15 |
| tmcpeak | 68 will be coming soon too | 19:15 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: cool. Working on publishing it now. | 19:15 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: arg, line wrapping is off. I'm going to get a quick patch in for it. | 19:16 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder: ahh crap, we should have checked that | 19:16 |
| nkinder | easy mistake. No worries. | 19:17 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: stand by for a quick review | 19:17 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 19:17 |
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| davidjd-gh | hola | 19:23 |
| tmcpeak | lol | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Nathan Kinder proposed openstack/security-doc: Correct line-wrapping in OSSN-0063 https://review.openstack.org/327890 | 19:26 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: ^^^ | 19:26 |
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| GABY4 | holaaaaaaa:-D | 19:28 |
| davidjd-gh | hola GABY4 | 19:28 |
| davidjd-gh | como ests | 19:28 |
| GABY4 | bn y thu vl.. | 19:29 |
| davidjd-gh | bn | 19:29 |
| GABY4 | eso vl q bn | 19:29 |
| tmcpeak | hmm, I don't have review in security-doc anymore | 19:29 |
| tmcpeak | I'm +1, just merge it nkinder :) | 19:29 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: cool | 19:30 |
| davidjd-gh | hello | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/security-doc: Correct line-wrapping in OSSN-0063 https://review.openstack.org/327890 | 19:40 |
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| ccneill | holy heck | 19:53 |
| ccneill | unrahul: wfuzz is SUPER fast... o_o | 19:53 |
| nkinder | tmcpeak: ok, all published now. | 19:53 |
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| tmcpeak | nkinder: thanks! you're awesome | 19:54 |
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| unrahul | ccneill: :o they are using multi threading it seems. | 20:05 |
| ccneill | yep | 20:06 |
| ccneill | I do like the simplicity of their output, but I'm not sure if it's such a good fit for us... | 20:06 |
| unrahul | ccneill: too late for us in the game.. and not sure how it helps in requests/resp time.. as we are spending most of the time there.. | 20:06 |
| unrahul | yeah.. | 20:06 |
| ccneill | unrahul: yeah, that's not my greatest concern at the moment, but it did surprise me | 20:06 |
| ccneill | unrahul: the output is very handy for saying "did it match one thing" but it doesn't really help you figure out exactly what happened | 20:06 |
| unrahul | ccneill: yeah.. something in between ours and wfuzz type.. thing would be ideal..? | 20:07 |
| unrahul | ccneill: yeah.. too minimal | 20:07 |
| ccneill | unrahul: it would be cool for our normal output to be similar though.. instead of just PASS/FAIL | 20:07 |
| ccneill | like what it's printing in the terminal while it's running, not the actual results output | 20:07 |
| unrahul | ccneill: like..? error coding and all? | 20:07 |
| unrahul | ccneill: oh yeah.. | 20:08 |
| ccneill | I don't know.. just maybe something like "hey, this request for this test type failed" | 20:08 |
| ccneill | with the path, status code, and test type | 20:08 |
| ccneill | not too fancy | 20:08 |
| ccneill | but again, that's not my biggest concern at the moment | 20:08 |
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| unrahul | ccneill: yeah that cleans up a lil i guess.. though if all the tests are run.. then it would take a while to scroll through. | 20:10 |
| ccneill | unrahul: right.. it's really not for you to DO anything with, it's just to let you know "hey, this is what's going on right now" | 20:11 |
| ccneill | but that's definitely not a top priority, just maybe something to think about sometime before 1.0 | 20:11 |
| unrahul | ccneill: yeah.. | 20:11 |
| unrahul | ccneill: +1 | 20:11 |
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| unrahul | ccneill: The stack trace I was getting, was because in the CORS test, as the new send_request returns a tuple of resp and signals, changed the test and its working fine. | 21:07 |
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| ccneill | sweet | 21:20 |
| ccneill | yeah I haven't finished updating the other tests yet | 21:20 |
| ccneill | I only worked on INT_OVERFLOW | 21:21 |
| ccneill | so we'll have to convert the rest of the tests, but I figured that was something that might be good for you, mdong, and vinaypotluri to look into so that you get experience with it | 21:21 |
| ccneill | and can get a feel for what the pain points are | 21:21 |
| ccneill | and what signals we still need to implement | 21:21 |
| unrahul | yup.. it helped | 21:21 |
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| unrahul | the INT_OVERFLOw tests | 21:21 |
| unrahul | using that a reference | 21:21 |
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