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| aspiers | o/ | 09:00 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 09:00 |
| aspiers | hey ricolin :) | 09:01 |
| aspiers | latest rendering of ihti's table: https://openstack.fortnebula.com:13808/v1/AUTH_e8fd161dc34c421a979a9e6421f823e9/logs_38/675138/6/check/openstack-tox-docs/af4a641/docs/testing/tools-list.html | 09:01 |
| * aspiers reads back through the discussion from last meeting | 09:03 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Spiers proposed openstack/self-healing-sig master: Add list of tools for Openstack testing https://review.opendev.org/675138 | 09:42 |
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| aspiers | hey ekcs, ihti! | 17:09 |
| aspiers | sorry, I got delayed | 17:09 |
| ekcs | hi aspiers ! | 17:09 |
| ihti | hi aspiers, ekcs | 17:10 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting self-healing | 17:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 28 17:10:33 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: self-healing)" | 17:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'self_healing' | 17:10 |
| aspiers | Let's have a quick chat, I guess we won't need too long | 17:10 |
| aspiers | #topic list of testing tools | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "list of testing tools (Meeting topic: self-healing)" | 17:10 | |
| aspiers | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675138/ | 17:11 |
| ihti | aspiers, thanks for formatting and proof reading the list. | 17:11 |
| aspiers | ihti: you're welcome, thanks a lot for addressing all the feedback so well | 17:11 |
| aspiers | I think this looks great and we can merge now if that's alright with you guys? | 17:11 |
| ekcs | great! | 17:12 |
| aspiers | We can easily submit follow-ups as needed | 17:12 |
| aspiers | but if we merge now then we can get it out to our contacts at the mentioned projects | 17:12 |
| aspiers | and then when they've had a chance to review, we can announce to the whole community | 17:12 |
| aspiers | Does that make sense? | 17:12 |
| ihti | I tried to add the maturity column but after going through all of them it seems like all of them are mature, couldn't really tell if they are unfinished or immature based on their git repos. | 17:13 |
| ihti | aspiers, yes make sense | 17:13 |
| aspiers | That's fine, I guess the activity column is enough, and maturity is subjective anyway | 17:14 |
| aspiers | OK great | 17:14 |
| aspiers | ihti: Do you have plans for any next steps? | 17:15 |
| ihti | as for the practical work on Eris I am trying to run the demo. | 17:15 |
| aspiers | Awesome | 17:15 |
| ihti | but have been stuck on setting up openstack with mkcloud with HA enabled | 17:16 |
| aspiers | Ah OK | 17:16 |
| aspiers | Ping me on our internal #cloud channel if you need help | 17:16 |
| ihti | since the last week so hopefully will be solved this week | 17:16 |
| aspiers | Either I can help or whoever else sees your message | 17:16 |
| aspiers | Great | 17:16 |
| ihti | but yes, for the next steps I am just planning to analyze Eris more. | 17:17 |
| aspiers | That would be helpful | 17:17 |
| aspiers | I don't know how useful it is in its current state | 17:17 |
| aspiers | but would be good to learn how close it is to something useful | 17:17 |
| aspiers | IIRC this project is timeboxed for you, right? How much time do you have left? | 17:18 |
| ihti | not really as its mentioned that its pre-alpha version in the demo | 17:18 |
| ihti | yes it is | 17:18 |
| aspiers | OK pre-alpha is about what I expected :) | 17:18 |
| ihti | till Febraury | 17:18 |
| aspiers | OK cool | 17:18 |
| ihti | so I would like to also focus on the practical implementation as well as the litrature of how things are done right now | 17:19 |
| aspiers | Do you have a good idea of what you want to do until then, or does it depend a lot on how each step goes? | 17:19 |
| aspiers | Yes the practical side is very important | 17:19 |
| aspiers | #topic practical investigation of testing frameworks | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "practical investigation of testing frameworks (Meeting topic: self-healing)" | 17:19 | |
| ihti | Yes so I would like to do control and data plane testing with failure injecions | 17:20 |
| ihti | that would be the first priority | 17:20 |
| aspiers | Great, that would be extremely useful | 17:20 |
| ihti | and then move to performance/benchmarking | 17:20 |
| aspiers | Yep | 17:20 |
| aspiers | It would be great if it was possible to try that with 2 or 3 different frameworks and see how they perform | 17:20 |
| ihti | and if possible the scalability/concurrency | 17:20 |
| aspiers | e.g. Eris vs. Yardstick or whatever | 17:21 |
| ihti | alright | 17:21 |
| aspiers | Cool | 17:21 |
| ihti | yes, I will try out some tools wrt of these points | 17:22 |
| aspiers | Don't hesitate to ping me if you need help at any point | 17:22 |
| ihti | and then we can decide which can be used | 17:22 |
| aspiers | Yup | 17:22 |
| ihti | sure | 17:22 |
| aspiers | We should probably also announce to the community that you are working on this | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/self-healing-sig master: Add list of tools for Openstack testing https://review.opendev.org/675138 | 17:22 |
| aspiers | \o/ | 17:22 |
| aspiers | :) | 17:23 |
| ihti | yes | 17:23 |
| ihti | Nice! | 17:23 |
| ihti | :) | 17:23 |
| ekcs | = p | 17:23 |
| aspiers | In the next few minutes, it should appear at https://docs.openstack.org/self-healing-sig/latest/ | 17:23 |
| ihti | cool, thanks! | 17:23 |
| aspiers | http://zuul.openstack.org/stream/33fa4c0db0564b598f31074d67d18b07?logfile=console.log | 17:24 |
| aspiers | That's the promotion job | 17:24 |
| aspiers | from http://zuul.openstack.org/status | 17:24 |
| ihti | ah nice, pretty helpful. | 17:25 |
| aspiers | https://docs.openstack.org/self-healing-sig/latest/testing/tools-list.html | 17:25 |
| aspiers | landed :) | 17:25 |
| ihti | awesome! | 17:25 |
| aspiers | OK, I guess I should send out an update about that | 17:26 |
| ihti | to the tool developers? | 17:26 |
| ihti | or whole community | 17:26 |
| aspiers | I think just to the tool devs first | 17:26 |
| aspiers | give them a chance to make sure it's accurate | 17:26 |
| ihti | yes, sound better. | 17:26 |
| ihti | I can collect there authors/devs | 17:27 |
| aspiers | I mean, I'm sure it's accurate but sometime they might want things portrayed slightly differently | 17:27 |
| aspiers | That would be super helpful, thanks! | 17:27 |
| aspiers | I guess in some cases it might mean finding a mailing list or IRC channel, or submitting a ticket to a github issue tracker, or just emailing the maintainer | 17:27 |
| ihti | I think it would be more helpful if they review them themselves, I am sure it missed many things. | 17:27 |
| ihti | I will keep that in mind and look out for those as well. | 17:28 |
| aspiers | Maybe we can start an etherpad for tracking this? | 17:28 |
| ihti | yes, that's good idea | 17:29 |
| ihti | is there an etherpad instance for openstack? | 17:29 |
| aspiers | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/extreme-testing-tools-contacts | 17:29 |
| aspiers | OK | 17:30 |
| aspiers | So we can copy and paste the list of tools into that, and maybe share out the work of contacting each tool community | 17:31 |
| aspiers | ekcs: any chance that's something you could help out with too? no worries if you're too busy though | 17:31 |
| ihti | got it, thanks | 17:31 |
| ekcs | yup I can help | 17:31 |
| aspiers | great | 17:33 |
| aspiers | OK, just stubbed out that etherpad | 17:34 |
| aspiers | So we can mark on that list who is dealing with each tool | 17:35 |
| aspiers | to avoid two people duplicating the same work | 17:35 |
| ihti | I can take of all | 17:35 |
| ihti | shoudln't be aproblem | 17:35 |
| ihti | *care | 17:35 |
| aspiers | Oh amazing, thank you so much :) | 17:35 |
| aspiers | OK this is great progress | 17:36 |
| ihti | your welcome, they aren't many :) | 17:36 |
| aspiers | Anything else on this topic? | 17:37 |
| ihti | noe | 17:37 |
| aspiers | OK | 17:37 |
| aspiers | #topic AOB | 17:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: self-healing)" | 17:37 | |
| aspiers | ekcs: do we need to discuss Shanghai any more? IIRC we are all set with session booking etc.? | 17:37 |
| ekcs | I think we are ok on shanghai for now. of course we’ll need to start brainstorming topics etc at some point. | 17:38 |
| aspiers | yup | 17:38 |
| aspiers | OK, anything else to discuss at all? | 17:38 |
| ekcs | not at this point = ) | 17:39 |
| aspiers | OK cool, thanks very much both and cu online! | 17:40 |
| aspiers | o/ | 17:40 |
| ihti | bye! :) | 17:40 |
| aspiers | bye :) | 17:40 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Self_healing_SIG | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/self-healing-sig" | 17:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 28 17:40:56 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/self_healing/2019/self_healing.2019-08-28-17.10.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/self_healing/2019/self_healing.2019-08-28-17.10.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/self_healing/2019/self_healing.2019-08-28-17.10.log.html | 17:41 |
| ekcs | bye! | 17:41 |
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