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samueldmq | mordred: agreed, I'll post a patch tomorrow morning for OpenStackCloud docs | 01:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Remove service names in OpenStackCloud docs https://review.openstack.org/439709 | 16:47 |
samueldmq | thingee: mordred: notmorgan: ^ there we go, this is my first patch for shade! | 16:49 |
mordred | samueldmq: yay! | 16:51 |
samueldmq | mordred: \o/ | 16:51 |
samueldmq | I will be submitting a few in docs as a way to get docs slightly better | 16:52 |
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samueldmq | and help me understanding the project | 16:52 |
notmorgan | samueldmq: yay | 16:53 |
samueldmq | notmorgan: o/ | 16:53 |
mordred | samueldmq: a few small suggestions, but otherwise looks great! | 16:54 |
samueldmq | mordred: kk looking | 16:55 |
notmorgan | samueldmq: i concur with mordred | 16:59 |
notmorgan | but looks good | 16:59 |
notmorgan | mordred: my brain is still mush | 16:59 |
notmorgan | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438701/ <--- crypto stuff for keystone hashing | 16:59 |
notmorgan | mordred: annnyway.... | 16:59 |
samueldmq | mordred: notmorgan: replied inline. I understand your view, but still have a point | 16:59 |
notmorgan | responded to your response | 17:01 |
notmorgan | ;) | 17:01 |
notmorgan | in short, it is akin to needing to specify designate v...2? | 17:02 |
notmorgan | naywya, you have some cases where the apis are drastically different enough you need to know if this is something you're using | 17:02 |
mordred | samueldmq: I agree with you in terms of the intent - I would prefer a user to not need to know at all | 17:02 |
notmorgan | even shade can't paper over it. | 17:02 |
notmorgan | it is a sade state | 17:02 |
notmorgan | sad* | 17:03 |
notmorgan | but it is a reality | 17:03 |
mordred | figuring out the best way to deal with parameters such as domain_id is weird ... although that said, I suppose we can just ignore the parameter for v2 and it'll likely be just fine :) | 17:03 |
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samueldmq | mordred: yes, we could simply ignore it for v2 | 17:06 |
samueldmq | do users know create_domain will only work for v3 ? | 17:07 |
samueldmq | I understand that is complex and in that case they need to know if v3 is used so that the filter will work properly (if provided) | 17:07 |
mordred | well - create_domain is an admin function | 17:08 |
mordred | and if we don't have one already, we should be having some _normalize functions in shade._normalize that make the return payloads always look the same | 17:08 |
samueldmq | hm, true. | 17:08 |
mordred | so we could _totally_ add domain attributes for objects that don't have them because they came froma v2 endpoint | 17:09 |
samueldmq | yeah, they're in the default domain if it's v2 | 17:09 |
samueldmq | or we can just kill v2. cc notmorgan | 17:10 |
samueldmq | :) | 17:10 |
notmorgan | samueldmq: we can kill v2 in keystone.. not in shade | 17:15 |
samueldmq | notmorgan: why not ? use v3 to do the v2.0 things, shade operations will still work the same | 17:18 |
notmorgan | because not every cloud has v3 [or didnt] that was exposed | 17:18 |
notmorgan | shade has to remain compativle with every cloud out there** | 17:19 |
notmorgan | ** - for whatever percentage it is compatible with today, assuming they don't upgrade | 17:19 |
notmorgan | basically, v2.0 was really a thing/leaned on / some places only available when shade was written | 17:19 |
notmorgan | shade has the same level of contract keystoneauth does | 17:20 |
notmorgan | "we wont break you. ever" | 17:20 |
notmorgan | (except ksa did break people using py2.6... bbuuuuuuttttttt that is a different story, and lalalalalalalaa not getting into that argument) | 17:20 |
samueldmq | hehe | 17:20 |
notmorgan | mordred: ooh ooh i have an idea.. we make keystoneauth break under py2.7, everyone has to move to py3 only *shiftyeyes* | 17:21 |
notmorgan | mordred: :P | 17:21 |
samueldmq | gotcha, shade will support service x, version y forever. even if the version disappear | 17:21 |
samueldmq | even if the service stop being supported. | 17:21 |
notmorgan | yep. because it was supported in shade at one point. | 17:21 |
notmorgan | and someone might be using it | 17:21 |
notmorgan | (service + shade_ | 17:21 |
samueldmq | wow | 17:22 |
samueldmq | that's what I call true backwards compatibility | 17:22 |
notmorgan | well look at ksa | 17:22 |
notmorgan | we hold it to the same level of compat | 17:22 |
notmorgan | if it breaks against a cloud it previously worked against... or changes behavior | 17:22 |
notmorgan | we, the devs, are in the wrong | 17:22 |
notmorgan | not the cloud. | 17:22 |
notmorgan | (assuming the cloud is the same but ksa changes) | 17:23 |
notmorgan | there is not much in openstack you can rely on to to be that compatible | 17:23 |
notmorgan | heck, i don't even think keystone service API (which is good) can make that claim. | 17:23 |
samueldmq | notmorgan: ++ | 17:24 |
notmorgan | running a ocata keystone probably would break a grizzly cloud | 17:24 |
samueldmq | shade channel is fun. | 17:24 |
notmorgan | though... i might be amused to try it some day | 17:24 |
notmorgan | assuming i care to try and setup a cloud with 5 year old software | 17:24 |
samueldmq | hehe. from 5 years until most recent release | 17:25 |
notmorgan | now ... if it worked | 17:31 |
notmorgan | that would be amazing | 17:31 |
openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Remove service names in OpenStackCloud docs https://review.openstack.org/439709 | 17:48 |
openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Fix OpenStack and ID misspellings https://review.openstack.org/439744 | 17:48 |
samueldmq | mordred: notmorgan ^ fixed. | 17:49 |
thingee | samueldmq: looks great! | 18:10 |
samueldmq | thingee: thanks! | 18:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Rename ClusterTemplate in OpenStackCloud docs https://review.openstack.org/439779 | 18:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Samuel de Medeiros Queiroz proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Rename ClusterTemplate in OpenStackCloud docs https://review.openstack.org/439779 | 18:59 |
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notmorgan | huh, i didn't know i had core on occ :P | 19:18 |
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