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| smile-luobin | ping xiangxinyong | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | smile-luobin proposed openstack/smaug: Add serialized resource_graph info in Checkpoint to_dict function https://review.openstack.org/340716 | 06:52 |
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| xiangxinyong | smile-luobin: how are you? | 07:15 |
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| zhangshuai | hi chenying | 10:50 |
| zhangshuai | are you here? | 10:50 |
| chenying | zhangshuai: hi | 10:58 |
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| yuval | where is the meeting? | 10:59 |
| yinwei_computer | in this channel | 10:59 |
| yinwei_computer | I think | 10:59 |
| yinwei_computer | is saggi with you? | 11:00 |
| yinwei_computer | hi, guys | 11:00 |
| xiangxinyong | hello | 11:01 |
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| saggi | hi everybody | 11:01 |
| zhangshuai | hi | 11:02 |
| yinwei_computer | hi | 11:02 |
| xiangxinyong | hello | 11:02 |
| saggi | There will be no bot for the meeting | 11:02 |
| saggi | I got a request from xiangxinyong to postpone the name cchange. | 11:03 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: thanks | 11:03 |
| saggi | We still need to converge on several options suggestions | 11:04 |
| chenying | We can have more time to think about suggested name. | 11:05 |
| saggi | I sent an email to Thierry asking how much time we have. | 11:06 |
| saggi | I'll let you all know when he get's back to me | 11:06 |
| xiangxinyong | thanks saggi. | 11:07 |
| saggi | But I do want to get this done soon since it involves branding and I want things to be in the best condition possible for Barcelona. | 11:07 |
| yinwei_computer | is zhonghua-lee here | 11:07 |
| yinwei_computer | I think saggi's request is reasonable to get the name done before barcelona | 11:08 |
| xiangxinyong | he is not here | 11:08 |
| yinwei_computer | we need zhonghua-lee to coordinate this issue | 11:08 |
| xiangxinyong | he is on the way to beijing for openstack china day | 11:08 |
| saggi | It includes documentation and code changes. | 11:08 |
| yinwei_computer | how long do we need to get the name changed inside, xiangxinyong? | 11:09 |
| yinwei_computer | do you have any idea? | 11:09 |
| yinwei_computer | until which mile stone? | 11:10 |
| xiangxinyong | I will sysnc informations to zhonghua and other leaders. | 11:11 |
| saggi | great | 11:11 |
| xiangxinyong | I also think we need to ensure the name | 11:12 |
| yinwei_computer | so the name to be changes is a must have item, right? | 11:12 |
| xiangxinyong | because there are lots of things to do | 11:12 |
| yinwei_computer | what we haven't agreed is when | 11:12 |
| saggi | I asked you all to tell me what is your preferred name. No one emailed me back. | 11:13 |
| yinwei_computer | if it is so, we could come up come candidates or even the best candidate | 11:13 |
| saggi | We have the three candidates we suggested yesterday. | 11:13 |
| saggi | Are there any more candidates that have consensus? | 11:14 |
| xiangxinyong | not yet. | 11:14 |
| chenying | I think it will not spend much time. We only need gather some suggested name from guys who concern about this project. | 11:15 |
| xiangxinyong | chenying: +1 | 11:15 |
| chenying | panda I like this name. :) | 11:15 |
| saggi | I think Panda has software trademark already | 11:16 |
| xiangxinyong | :( | 11:16 |
| yinwei_computer | I missed the beginning of yesterday's meeting, did we have consensus on the name in that meeting? | 11:16 |
| xiangxinyong | :) zhonghua has submit Panda for OpenStack P naming. | 11:16 |
| xiangxinyong | yinwei_computer: nope | 11:17 |
| yinwei_computer | saggi, could you tell more about those candidates? like hoard? pixiu? grauly? | 11:17 |
| yinwei_computer | is pixiu a chinese name? | 11:17 |
| yinwei_computer | I'm a bit confused | 11:17 |
| saggi | Hoard is a pile of treasure. | 11:18 |
| saggi | Pixiue was suggested by Feng. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixiu | 11:18 |
| saggi | Grauly is just a cute name for a dragon. | 11:18 |
| chenying | Yes Pixiu is a chinses name. It is a special lion. | 11:19 |
| xiangxinyong | :) dragon is a cool animal | 11:19 |
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| xiangxinyong | oh. Guilin has a lot of stories about pixiu | 11:20 |
| saggi | What we asked yesterday is that if there is a name that you all agree on than we'll add it to the list. But make sure you have some consensus on the name before suggesting it. | 11:21 |
| saggi | But no one emailed me anything. | 11:21 |
| xiangxinyong | perhaps we can agree on it next week. | 11:22 |
| xiangxinyong | The openstack days china is held in this week. | 11:22 |
| saggi | Let's try and get all the option list at least done by tomorrow evening Israel. | 11:23 |
| saggi | OK? | 11:23 |
| yinwei_computer | sounds good to me | 11:23 |
| saggi | Send me any other suggestion but please make sure that some people agree with you and make a quick search to see if there are any existing software projects with that name. | 11:23 |
| saggi | I'll send the list on Thu, and we will discuss the vote early next week. | 11:24 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: I am afraid it is a littel early | 11:24 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: but we will push this thing in our high-priority work. | 11:26 |
| yinwei_computer | the difficult part is to make sure the name hasn't been used before | 11:27 |
| yinwei_computer | I checked the name: qilin, menshen, both have been used in projects even products | 11:27 |
| saggi | xiangxinyong: Once we choose the name you can start the checks with management. We will only change officially after we get the OK. | 11:29 |
| yinwei_computer | yes, there should be no conflict. we prepare the candidate, and delay to decide when to change it. | 11:30 |
| saggi | Are there any more concerns? | 11:31 |
| xiangxinyong | yinwei_computer:+1 | 11:32 |
| yinwei_computer | we just send our proposal to you, right? | 11:33 |
| yinwei_computer | saggi | 11:33 |
| saggi | Yes | 11:33 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: no other concerns. | 11:33 |
| saggi | Great | 11:33 |
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| yinwei_computer | you need we achieve consensus on china side before that? | 11:33 |
| saggi | It'd be easier if you all already agree about a couple of options instead of sending a lot of suggestions that only one person likes. | 11:34 |
| yinwei_computer | ok, we can check that tomorrow morning china time. Is it ok for you, chenying and xiangxinyong? | 11:35 |
| saggi | I'll only be available after 14:00 IST which I think is 11:00 UTC. | 11:35 |
| yinwei_computer | not include you, saggi :) | 11:36 |
| saggi | OK | 11:36 |
| saggi | :) | 11:36 |
| yinwei_computer | we only check on china side, and then we give you the proposal | 11:36 |
| saggi | Awesome! | 11:36 |
| yinwei_computer | I thought you would be heart breaking not being invited to our meeting | 11:37 |
| yinwei_computer | chenying and xiangxinyong, comments? | 11:37 |
| xiangxinyong | yinwei_computer: chenying and i will go to beijing Tomorrow | 11:38 |
| xiangxinyong | when are you free tomorrow? | 11:38 |
| yinwei_computer | I don't have meeting tomorrow | 11:40 |
| yinwei_computer | you guys can call me when you are free | 11:40 |
| yinwei_computer | I do envy you guys, traveling every where | 11:41 |
| yinwei_computer | xiangxinyong, let's call tomorrow | 11:41 |
| xiangxinyong | :) ok | 11:42 |
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| saggi | So are we all settled? | 11:43 |
| yinwei_computer | I think so. | 11:43 |
| yinwei_computer | saggi | 11:44 |
| yinwei_computer | one question | 11:44 |
| yinwei_computer | how to check if the name has been used | 11:44 |
| yinwei_computer | what if the name is used in a non software project/product, is it qualified? | 11:45 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: yeah | 11:45 |
| saggi | yinwei_computer: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4808:lz99d2.1.1 | 11:46 |
| saggi | But trademarks on work on specific fields | 11:47 |
| saggi | so if there is one for food it doesn't count | 11:47 |
| saggi | has to for software\tech | 11:47 |
| saggi | I got to go guys | 11:47 |
| saggi | ping or email me if you need me | 11:47 |
| yinwei_computer | ok | 11:47 |
| xiangxinyong | saggi: good bye | 11:49 |
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