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| kmalloc | o/ | 17:31 |
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| kmalloc | tonyb: hey, need to chat to you about the keystone-stable-maint group. We have a number of folks there that are not involved in the community anymore: Dolph, Steve Martinelli, and brant is limitedly involved (at best) with keystone proper | 17:33 |
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| kmalloc | tonyb: i'd like to propose removing the no-longer involved folks and/or look at getting another person added from the Keystone Team (notably, lbragstad, PTL or similar) as I'm the only keystone-active person on stable maint; if this continues I'm going to need to step down because I just don't feel comfortable being the only one approving a number of the changes. | 17:34 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ cc | 17:35 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: ^ cc | 17:35 |
| prometheanfire | lbragstad++ :D | 17:35 |
| kmalloc | prometheanfire: :) | 17:35 |
| kmalloc | cc mtreinish ^ | 17:38 |
| smcginnis | kmalloc: Have these folks been doing reviews on stable patches? | 17:39 |
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| kmalloc | smcginnis: dolph and steve absolutely have not; they left openstack | 17:39 |
| kmalloc | and i'm near certain brant isn't. | 17:39 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: mostly reviews stable for keystone (as the PTL i lean on him to review before approving in most cases) | 17:40 |
| kmalloc | but like i said, I am not comfortable being the only active keystone-stable-core | 17:40 |
| kmalloc | and the way i see it is we can work to clean up the group and add at least one more or I can step down to feel like I'm not on the hook for all of it | 17:41 |
| smcginnis | kmalloc: Yeah, we can certainly clean up the group of those who have left. | 17:41 |
| smcginnis | kmalloc: It would be great to see some evidence that the new names have been doing reviews and understand the differences with stable policy. | 17:42 |
| kmalloc | part of the issue is keystone has so few stable proposals | 17:42 |
| kmalloc | but it's been about a year of me being the only one that is specifically active for the keystone team | 17:43 |
| kmalloc | i can assure you lbragstad is aware (please chat with him) on the policy :) | 17:43 |
| kmalloc | that would be the main person I'd recommend adding. | 17:43 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, lbragstad and I have talked a few times, so I'm pretty confident on him. | 17:44 |
| kmalloc | yep, i figured :) | 17:44 |
| kmalloc | anyone else, i'd want them to chat w/ you (or folks here at least) before proposing | 17:44 |
| smcginnis | kmalloc: How about this... want to send out a post to the ML proposing these changes. Then tonyb and the folks you are looking at removing have a chance to chime in if there are any concerns. | 17:44 |
| kmalloc | though, i'd aslo trust cmurphy, but i don't want to volun-toss-her-under-the-bus :) | 17:44 |
| kmalloc | smcginnis: fair enough, i'll get that email sent soon. | 17:45 |
| smcginnis | Hehe, yeah. :) | 17:45 |
| smcginnis | kmalloc: Cool. I don't really see any problem with this, but I don't want anyone to be too surprised. | 17:45 |
| smcginnis | And I would be fine doing the removals, but should at least get tonyb's ack on the additions. | 17:45 |
| kmalloc | smcginnis: totally, i just wanted to make sure someone here wasn't surprised when i sent the email/make sure i was sending the right email (add/remove folks, etc) | 17:46 |
| kmalloc | i'll send an email to get lbragstad and check to see if we want anyone else. but i think just 2 of us should be good (so someone can be on vacation as well) | 17:46 |
| kmalloc | long term a 3rd would be great, but right now just getting to 2 is a huge win :) | 17:46 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, good plan. | 17:47 |
| kmalloc | is openstack-dev the right ML? | 17:48 |
| kmalloc | just to confirm, or is there a -stable ML i should be subscribed to/mailing to | 17:48 |
| kmalloc | ahh. i am not on stable-maint | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | kmalloc: there is a stable ml, but it's mostly a historical artifact for ci stable job results (because I can't get everyone to switch to using rss from openstack-health) | 17:50 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, openstack-dev is good. | 17:50 |
| kmalloc | mtreinish: cool | 17:50 |
| kmalloc | thnx | 17:50 |
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