| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/storlets: remove python 2.6 trove classifier https://review.openstack.org/260843 | 01:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/storlets: Update information about python version in setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/260387 | 02:59 |
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| hrou | Hey eranrom re: patch 260843 - that's Ok, its in merge conflict because of the other patch that addresses it. | 13:27 |
| patchbot | hrou: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260843/ - remove python 2.6 trove classifier (ABANDONED) | 13:27 |
| hrou | i.e. this one: patch 60387 | 13:28 |
| patchbot | hrou: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60387/ - Enable hacking check for Apache 2.0 license (MERGED) | 13:28 |
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| eranrom | Hi. Anybody here? | 14:00 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: Hi | 14:02 |
| eranrom | Hi. Iam I late? | 14:02 |
| hrou | here! | 14:02 |
| eranrom | ok, I think we should have started an hour earlier, but we have Takashi and Hrou so lets talk :-) | 14:04 |
| eranrom | Takashi: any updates, comments? | 14:04 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: I have one thing | 14:05 |
| takashi_ | I started to add unittests for storlet_middleware, like patch 260337 | 14:06 |
| patchbot | takashi_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260337/ - Add unittests about validation method in storlet_d... | 14:06 |
| eranrom | takashi_,: yes I have started looking! This is highly appreciated! | 14:07 |
| takashi_ | I think we need unitttests before I commit some fixes, because it is useful to make sure tha patch works well | 14:07 |
| eranrom | agree!. | 14:08 |
| takashi_ | but I'm afraid that patch is too big, so if neccessory, I'll devide that patch | 14:08 |
| takashi_ | into some ones | 14:08 |
| eranrom | takashi_,Don't worry about it. I will go over it and review. | 14:08 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: thank you! | 14:09 |
| eranrom | I believe that I will have it reviewd by tomorrow EOD | 14:09 |
| eranrom | Shell we move to talk about Austin Summit? | 14:09 |
| takashi_ | yes | 14:10 |
| eranrom | ok, So I wanted to propose that we will submit an NTT-IBM talk on Storlets. | 14:10 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: sounds good! | 14:11 |
| eranrom | The general idea is to present your PoC work (if it ok with you) plus work that we have done, show demos do some fuss about storlets. | 14:11 |
| eranrom | I am also thinking of trying to arrange a mini desing summit | 14:11 |
| eranrom | design | 14:11 |
| eranrom | say a couple of hours where we describe on more depth the arcitecture and code. | 14:12 |
| eranrom | in more depth | 14:12 |
| takashi_ | I see | 14:12 |
| eranrom | Does it make sense that I will take a first shot at proposing an abstract and let you review? | 14:13 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: Yes for me, but i have to discuss this thing with kota_, first | 14:13 |
| eranrom | sure. | 14:14 |
| eranrom | hrou,: comments? | 14:14 |
| hrou | eranrom, that sounds great yea ! Could check if peluse had interest too, but I really like the design summit idea as well to be a bit more hands on / demo | 14:14 |
| eranrom | hrou,: Do you think you will be able to take part? | 14:15 |
| hrou | eranrom, yep potentially pending ibm travel approval like usual ;) I can find out though | 14:15 |
| eranrom | hrou,: great. | 14:16 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: I'll ask kota_ about the idea next Friday, so I think we can tell you some reactions early in the next year. | 14:16 |
| eranrom | takashi_,Great thanks. | 14:16 |
| eranrom | Anything else for today? | 14:17 |
| takashi_ | do we have some time for discussing about Storlets in the next swift hackathon? | 14:17 |
| takashi_ | or should be take another place for that? | 14:17 |
| eranrom | takashi_,: You mean in Bristol? | 14:17 |
| hrou | It'd be great to talk about that actually ! | 14:17 |
| takashi_ | hrou: yes | 14:18 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: yes | 14:18 |
| takashi_ | sorry for mistaking... | 14:18 |
| eranrom | here is what I know: The spec was abandoned by John due to lack on interest at the time. peluse told me that he still thinks we need to push this, but I have not heard from him for a while. | 14:19 |
| eranrom | thoughts? | 14:19 |
| hrou | Always an interesting topic ;) - takashi_ is that what you wanted to discuss (i.e. integrating it as core middleware) ? | 14:21 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: I know about the situation. but storlets is still related to swift like swift3. I'm wondering if we can take place at swift hackathon | 14:21 |
| takashi_ | I don't think we should integrate storlets to swift now, but think we should keep relations with swift. | 14:22 |
| eranrom | takashi_,: agree | 14:22 |
| takashi_ | like keep testing with the latest swift, what we have to do | 14:22 |
| eranrom | We should definately bring up the patch that you wrote | 14:22 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: yes | 14:22 |
| hrou | takashi_, yea I think that's a great idea; Particularly the patch you wrote depending on the status of it (i.e. patch 256201) | 14:23 |
| patchbot | hrou: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256201/ - Fix proxy-server's support for chunked transferrin... | 14:23 |
| eranrom | plus I am planning to change s2aio to work with SAIO - that is install SAIO | 14:23 |
| eranrom | Once we have that, we can ask Swift to add a non voting gate that will invoke our tests on Swift commits | 14:24 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: great! | 14:24 |
| hrou | eranrom, that's a neat idea ! | 14:24 |
| hrou | Would have helped catch that EC change that broke it | 14:25 |
| eranrom | it will take some time though | 14:25 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: I'm looking forward to it | 14:25 |
| eranrom | me too :-) | 14:25 |
| eranrom | So you think we should propose a topic on storlets where we briefly update the Swift community on our project? | 14:26 |
| eranrom | that is for Bristol? | 14:26 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: that makes sence for me | 14:27 |
| takashi_ | honestly speaking, I did not have such kind of idea before talking here, | 14:28 |
| eranrom | so this makes it a community idea :-) | 14:28 |
| hrou | eranrom, yep! That's what we did for Austin, kinda of just like a generic update. | 14:28 |
| takashi_ | I want to know if we have some time to discuss about Storlets, because I'll decide if i should go to Bristol based on that. | 14:28 |
| eranrom | Anyway this is how I interpreted Takashi's idea. | 14:28 |
| eranrom | right so lets do that | 14:28 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: yeah | 14:29 |
| eranrom | oh I see. | 14:29 |
| eranrom | ok. | 14:29 |
| eranrom | in that case we must have that as a topic | 14:29 |
| eranrom | and we may want to prepare the 'suggestion' on content together | 14:29 |
| eranrom | Do yu want to take a first shot? | 14:30 |
| eranrom | s/yu/you | 14:30 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: I want you to ask john(or other swift members). I think it's better. | 14:32 |
| eranrom | As far as I know the way it works poeple make suggestions and then the suggestions are voted on | 14:33 |
| eranrom | So we can just make a suggestion | 14:33 |
| eranrom | describing what we want to talk about | 14:33 |
| hrou | yea; Often they just prepare an etherpad before (probably in a few weeks) | 14:33 |
| hrou | and often just vote there, so we can write whatever we like | 14:33 |
| eranrom | right | 14:33 |
| peluse | hi guys | 14:34 |
| eranrom | Hey! | 14:34 |
| eranrom | what's up | 14:34 |
| peluse | FYI I'm on vacation for the next two weeks so not super active here :) | 14:34 |
| peluse | Saw the note above though, yeah I don't think things are dead wrt the spec | 14:34 |
| eranrom | We should be on vacation too :-) | 14:35 |
| peluse | FYi I wont be in Bristol :( | 14:35 |
| takashi_ | i know that may of you are on vacation now | 14:35 |
| eranrom | I am not :-( | 14:35 |
| peluse | yeah, I kinda took a week off the week before last too - heh. gotta get it all in before EOY | 14:35 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: :-( | 14:35 |
| peluse | I think the last storlet thing I posted in here was looking for confirmatin that what I was seeing was expected | 14:35 |
| peluse | seems like months ago :) | 14:35 |
| eranrom | no more vacation days for me this year | 14:35 |
| hrou | peluse, hey ! haha yep I recall that | 14:36 |
| eranrom | as long as you are back we are happy :-) | 14:36 |
| peluse | I'll fire it up again after the holidays and get back on it. overall I think the docs will need more work before another core would give things a shot and feel comfortable | 14:36 |
| eranrom | pleuse: ok, sounds right. What do you think of a talk / mini design summit on Storlets in Austin? | 14:37 |
| peluse | once I know my stuff is OK, I need to go through a storlet (now that I think its all installed correctly) and get to the point where I can speak from epxerience to the other guys | 14:37 |
| peluse | yeah, yeah Austin sounds good | 14:37 |
| hrou | yep I think docs are a major area for improvment. Just for clarity / simplicity | 14:37 |
| takashi_ | hrou: absolutely | 14:37 |
| peluse | FYI I've been re-assigned here so Swift is now onlya small part of my job. I was able to keep 2 aspects alive - the stuff Intel is doing with Rackspace (we have 4 engineers that are part of the cloud for all initiative thingy) and storlets... | 14:38 |
| peluse | for sure on docs. I think that's going to be the big thing that will make or break getting the middleware upstream | 14:38 |
| eranrom | Sounds good. | 14:39 |
| takashi_ | great work | 14:39 |
| peluse | BTW the re-assignment is why I didn't even bother asking for $ to go to Bristol. Austin should be a no brainer though | 14:39 |
| hrou | peluse, Yea that makes sense; Austin is pretty close for you ;) | 14:40 |
| eranrom | peluse,: Good luck with your new role! | 14:40 |
| hrou | +1 | 14:40 |
| peluse | thanks! Not sure if you've read much on next generation non volatile memory - the byte addressable persistant stuff but that's what I'll be working on | 14:40 |
| takashi_ | +1 | 14:40 |
| peluse | some light reading here: http://www.snia.org/forums/sssi/nvmp | 14:41 |
| eranrom | sounds interesting (180 degrees from cloud :-) | 14:41 |
| hrou | peluse, oh we read / talk about it all the time (and have some regular calls with intel actually !) I'll find out who in a sec curious if you know them. | 14:41 |
| takashi_ | peluse: sounds exciting for me! | 14:41 |
| peluse | hrou: sure. this was actually my project before I started on OpenStack stuff so I know the team very well and am excited to work with them again | 14:42 |
| hrou | peluse, wow yea that's an exteremly exciting area to be involved with ! | 14:42 |
| peluse | yeah, we may find a way to work this into Swift as well, who knows. Initially I'll be working with Msft though, specifically to help get that programming model implemented in a way that makes sense for them | 14:43 |
| hrou | Yea I was going to say a lot of applications in swift | 14:44 |
| peluse | we actually have some libraries out there already that help make this stuff more usable: http://pmem.io/ | 14:44 |
| eranrom | who said something about mysql not being optmal for containers | 14:45 |
| hrou | lol | 14:45 |
| peluse | ha! | 14:46 |
| peluse | OK, I gotta bolt and take care of way too much pre-xmas stuff I've been putting off... have a great holiday guys!! | 14:46 |
| eranrom | Thanks, you too. take care | 14:46 |
| hrou | peluse, take care happy holidays! | 14:47 |
| takashi_ | peluse: happy holidays | 14:47 |
| takashi_ | I think we have to decide the next action for Bristol | 14:50 |
| takashi_ | so i'm going to nominate the storlets topic if the proposal becomes available, can I also add your name, eranrom? | 14:52 |
| takashi_ | I think everyone knows you're working with Storlets stuff | 14:52 |
| takashi_ | if accepted at the hackathon, we can talk there. If not accepted, we can take another place at the week, to talk about storlets topics, including a plan for Austin. | 14:54 |
| takashi_ | make sense? | 14:54 |
| eranrom | takashi_,: sure that make sense. | 14:55 |
| kota_ | I think we can talk about it as in flight conversation | 14:55 |
| takashi_ | kota_: yeah | 14:56 |
| kota_ | If needed | 14:56 |
| eranrom | kota_,: So you think we should not propose an 'update session' on storlets - that is - specifying we are not talking about pushing this upstream just updating the community | 14:57 |
| kota_ | Wait, turn on my laptop.,. | 14:58 |
| takashi_ | I suppose you're checking here with your smart phone :-) | 14:59 |
| kota_ | takashi_: yup | 15:00 |
| kota_ | and reading again via scroll backing | 15:01 |
| kota_ | righ now, the conversions for Bristol, right? | 15:01 |
| takashi_ | kota_: yes | 15:01 |
| kota_ | i saw some talk about Austin summit too tho | 15:01 |
| takashi_ | kota_: there are two things. one for Austin and the other for Bristol | 15:03 |
| hrou | kota_, we were talking about both ;) | 15:03 |
| kota_ | i think that's ok to propose a storlets topic because some one want to catch up current our activities. | 15:03 |
| kota_ | s/want/may want/ | 15:03 |
| kota_ | for Bristol, i was starting to talk here | 15:03 |
| kota_ | that is because I had some conversations for swift3 as well as swift :) | 15:04 |
| kota_ | in previous Austion hackathon in IBM office. | 15:04 |
| hrou | hehe yep! I remember that : ) | 15:05 |
| takashi_ | good news! | 15:06 |
| kota_ | i saw the back log paul won't be Bristol? who one will go there? | 15:07 |
| hrou | I think eranrom will be going, not entirely sure my self quite yet | 15:08 |
| kota_ | if we have enough members to talk about storlets, i wanna say 'yes we need a meet up there' :) | 15:08 |
| kota_ | because it may show a good point of view for other swifters and we may get some feedback for our activities from them. | 15:09 |
| hrou | haha sure I like that idea i.e. an official swift meetup ; ) | 15:09 |
| hrou | Yep I completely agree | 15:09 |
| kota_ | ok, I will be there and takashi may be able to go there if we have storlet conversation there. | 15:10 |
| eranrom | Sorry, stepped out for a min. I will be in Bristol | 15:10 |
| kota_ | eranrom: no worries and good news to ask my boss to bring takashi to Bristol :) | 15:10 |
| kota_ | eranrom: thx! | 15:10 |
| eranrom | :-) | 15:10 |
| takashi_ | kota_: good news for me :-) | 15:11 |
| kota_ | takashi: tbh, i'm not sure how my boss think about it :P | 15:11 |
| hrou | haha ! | 15:11 |
| takashi_ | kota_: I believe you will help me | 15:12 |
| kota_ | will do | 15:12 |
| kota_ | and i think | 15:12 |
| kota_ | we *may* need to discuss a few swift changes for storlets like chunked transfer on GET. | 15:13 |
| kota_ | that's also a reason to bring storlets talk to hackathon. | 15:13 |
| eranrom | absolutly | 15:14 |
| hrou | yep, depending on the state of that by the hackaton | 15:14 |
| kota_ | takashi_: enough? | 15:16 |
| takashi_ | kota_: yes | 15:16 |
| kota_ | fyi, FEBRUARY 1 IS THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT A TALK (11:59PM PST) for austion summit breakout sessions. | 15:17 |
| eranrom | May I send you a draft for a mutual talk? | 15:18 |
| kota_ | eranrom: sure...me? takashi? | 15:19 |
| eranrom | both :-) | 15:19 |
| eranrom | depends on you actually | 15:19 |
| kota_ | eranrom: great :) | 15:19 |
| eranrom | I suggest that we start with the abstract and then we can decide who speaks about what, etc.\ | 15:20 |
| hrou | yep that sounds great | 15:20 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: sounds good for me | 15:20 |
| kota_ | +1 :) | 15:21 |
| eranrom | great, so expect this in a couple of days :-) | 15:21 |
| kota_ | hew! | 15:21 |
| eranrom | I know you are in holidays so do not fell obligated to answer right away :-) | 15:21 |
| eranrom | s/fell/feel | 15:22 |
| takashi_ | eranrom: thank you for your kindness :-) | 15:22 |
| kota_ | :-) | 15:23 |
| eranrom | not at all. You do not know how exited I am to actually have a storlets community :-) | 15:23 |
| takashi_ | happy to hear that! :-) | 15:25 |
| hrou | +100 :) Thanks all! | 15:26 |
| kota_ | \o/ | 15:28 |
| kota_ | ok, I am startting to prepare to head for my bed :) | 15:28 |
| kota_ | good night and thanks ;) | 15:28 |
| eranrom | good night. Thanks you all. | 15:28 |
| takashi_ | good night | 15:29 |
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