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| larissa | Meeting started Thu Jul 8 18:39:22 2010 UTC. The chair is antonym. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:39 |
| larissa | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:39 |
| antonym | #endmeeting | 18:39 |
| larissa | Meeting ended Thu Jul 8 18:39:27 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:39 |
| larissa | Minutes: https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-18.39.html | 18:39 |
| larissa | Minutes (text): https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-18.39.txt | 18:39 |
| larissa | Log: https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-18.39.log.html | 18:39 |
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| antonym | #startmeeting | 19:07 |
| larissa | Meeting started Thu Jul 8 19:07:15 2010 UTC. The chair is antonym. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:07 |
| larissa | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:07 |
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| larissa | Meeting ended Thu Jul 8 19:07:18 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:07 |
| larissa | Minutes: https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-19.07.html | 19:07 |
| larissa | Minutes (text): https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-19.07.txt | 19:07 |
| larissa | Log: https://neptune.racklabs.com/meetbot/openstack-summit/2010/openstack-summit.2010-07-08-19.07.log.html | 19:07 |
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| dabo | just got to my hotel room. anything going on at the moment? anything I can help with? | 23:23 |
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| polvi | hello! I'm the curly haired guy in the front to the right of the projector | 15:52 |
| _cerberus_ | Hi polvi | 15:53 |
| _0x44 | Hey polvi | 15:53 |
| jk0 | hi | 15:53 |
| _0x44 | So far you're the only non-RS person here. | 15:54 |
| polvi | ftw! | 15:54 |
| _cerberus_ | Sadly the only prize is bragging rights :-/ | 15:54 |
| polvi | I'm from Cloudkick | 15:54 |
| antonym | polvi: how's it going? hope you enjoy the music :) | 16:02 |
| polvi | haha, yeah | 16:03 |
| polvi | guess the music has an API | 16:03 |
| polvi | and someone found it | 16:03 |
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| _0x44 | Hi guys. | 16:40 |
| jhop | hio | 16:40 |
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| polvi | anyone know where the schedule is? | 17:00 |
| polvi | I saw it on the screen, but cannot find it on the wiki now | 17:01 |
| mtaylor | http://wiki.openstack.org/2010Summit | 17:01 |
| polvi | OK - great! | 17:01 |
| polvi | thank you! | 17:01 |
| mtaylor | sure! | 17:01 |
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| _0x44 | Hey ewan | 19:24 |
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| _0x44 | I'm the guy to your right. | 19:24 |
| _0x44 | :) | 19:24 |
| _0x44 | Most of the people in here are from Rackspace | 19:25 |
| _cerberus_ | The IRC room doesn't seem to be catching on. Everyone is holding conversations over etherpad :-P | 19:25 |
| _0x44 | You, mtaylor, polvi, 19:13 -ChanServ(services@foonetic.net)- Crayboff may not be kicked from channel #mafia. | 19:25 |
| _0x44 | Crap, fail paste. | 19:25 |
| _0x44 | You, mtaylor, polvi, redbo, and 19:13 -ChanServ(services@foonetic.net)- Crayboff may not be kicked from channel #mafia. | 19:26 |
| _0x44 | Screw it. | 19:26 |
| _0x44 | creiht | 19:26 |
| ewanmellor | Yeah, IRC's a bit old skool for most people. | 19:26 |
| _0x44 | Are the five non RS people in here. | 19:27 |
| ewanmellor | It's blocked from Citrix machines, so I had to get a new client. | 19:27 |
| _0x44 | Wow. | 19:27 |
| _0x44 | Do they block mibbit.com? | 19:28 |
| ewanmellor | It's all outbound ports apart from ssh,http,https (pretty much). web chat is OK. | 19:30 |
| ewanmellor | Everyone just ssh-tunnels around it. | 19:31 |
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| _0x44 | Ah, so you could use IRC with mibbit then. | 19:31 |
| ewanmellor | Yeah. | 19:32 |
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| antonym | hey ewan, you joined the party | 20:38 |
| ewanmellor | *shakes booty* | 20:48 |
| _0x44 | Hey look, github! | 20:48 |
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| polvi | ewanmellor: around? would love to say hi (this is alex from cloudkick) | 21:39 |
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| exlt | Key Bar - 617 W 6th St. - now 'til dinner | 21:43 |
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| niemeyer | Hello folks | 14:03 |
| dabo | hey niemeyer | 14:09 |
| jk0 | hi | 14:11 |
| niemeyer | I see that the code instructions in the wiki are not working for me. Have them changed or is there a team for people attending the summit? | 14:14 |
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| _0x44 | niemeyer: You mean getting the source code? | 14:16 |
| creiht | niemeyer: I went through them late last night and made some updates | 14:16 |
| niemeyer | _0x44: Right | 14:16 |
| creiht | niemeyer: if you are here in austin come and find one of the devs (me included) and we can help you out | 14:16 |
| creiht | we weren't expecting people to actually play with it until today :) | 14:17 |
| _0x44 | niemeyer: You need to email Monty Taylor to get added to the project for this code. | 14:17 |
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| niemeyer | creiht: I'm not there.. Neil Levine is there and was just in touch with me | 14:17 |
| creiht | k | 14:17 |
| niemeyer | I understand it's not supposed to go public, FWIW | 14:17 |
| creiht | not until Monday | 14:18 |
| niemeyer | Right | 14:18 |
| _0x44 | So that's why you'll need to get monty to add you to the projects | 14:18 |
| niemeyer | _0x44: Ah, cool.. do you have his email at hand? | 14:18 |
| creiht | monty.taylor@rackspace.com | 14:18 |
| niemeyer | creiht: Thank you | 14:18 |
| creiht | niemeyer: You are with cannonical right? | 14:19 |
| niemeyer | creiht: That's right | 14:20 |
| creiht | cool... I'm about to give a demo, but if you need some help setting it up I can help you out a bit later | 14:20 |
| creiht | and the latest instructions in the repo should be a little cleaner for the install | 14:21 |
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| creiht | niemeyer: -^ is the guy you want to talk to :) | 14:22 |
| niemeyer | creiht: Cool, thanks a lot | 14:22 |
| niemeyer | mtaylor: Hey Monty! | 14:22 |
| niemeyer | mtaylor: Sorry I haven't managed to be there with you guys, I'm sure it's being an awesome event | 14:22 |
| mtaylor | morning niemeyer | 14:22 |
| mtaylor | niemeyer: you know it | 14:22 |
| niemeyer | mtaylor: Just sent you a mail related to source code access | 14:23 |
| mtaylor | great | 14:23 |
| mtaylor | niemeyer: you have been added | 14:24 |
| niemeyer | mtaylor: Thanks, bzr should be able to see it now | 14:24 |
| mtaylor | niemeyer: yes indeed! | 14:24 |
| mtaylor | let me know if you have any issues | 14:24 |
| niemeyer | Fetching | 14:25 |
| creiht | niemeyer: and btw we want to make the dev setup easier, we just haven't had time to get that done yet | 14:28 |
| niemeyer | creiht: Cool, no worries, just trying to have an idea of how things look like at the moment | 14:29 |
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| nijaba | has an updated agenda been published somewhere? | 15:02 |
| _0x44 | http://wiki.openstack.org/2010Summit | 15:03 |
| nijaba | _0x44: thanks | 15:03 |
| _0x44 | No problem :) | 15:03 |
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| nijaba | did someone delete the http://wiki.openstack.org/2010Summit page? | 18:17 |
| antonym | it's working for me | 18:18 |
| exlt | looks like it did.. but, the last revision is at http://wiki.openstack.org/2010Summit?action=recall&rev=14 | 18:18 |
| exlt | Recent Changes does show it deleted | 18:19 |
| exlt | I just mashed on restore to rev=14 | 18:23 |
| nijaba | thanks | 18:23 |
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| vish1 | no pictures of elephants? | 18:51 |
| _0x44 | Major's not on | 18:51 |
| _0x44 | His wife just had a kid, so he's only allowed two or three minutes of computer time a day. | 18:52 |
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| ewanmellor | Ewan was in #cloudstack-summit, wondering where you all were. | 19:21 |
| comstud | not there :) | 19:23 |
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| antonym | heh | 19:32 |
| antonym | ewanmellor: no joke, totally agree | 19:41 |
| pvo | by the time the image has made it to the host, you've already requested the "flavor" size | 19:44 |
| _0x44 | By the time the image has been pulled from the registry/image-store to the iback you've already requested the flavor size. | 19:45 |
| pvo | ^^ | 19:46 |
| antonym | really we could pull the ova out, process the ovf and then provide what's available from what metadata it read out | 19:46 |
| antonym | especially if we ever go down the path of multi images within an ova | 19:46 |
| eday | Yeah, you could keep flavor optional in the API, and defer to the iBack to pull out. and if there is non there, fail the request | 19:47 |
| antonym | you might not always want everything out of the ova... there could be the case where you only want to deploy half of what's in there | 19:47 |
| eday | You could also add optional attributes in the API so that if you specify both (OVA and flavor in API), these attributes determine the behavior (fail, push up, push down, ...) | 19:48 |
| pvo | eday: then the scheduler would be almost impossible to use, no? | 19:48 |
| pvo | how would you know where to put an instance successfully unless you're just guessing? | 19:48 |
| eday | pvo: You wouldn't hit the scheduler to choose the host until after the ibac inspection | 19:49 |
| pvo | but the iback streams it to the host | 19:49 |
| eday | pvo: you'd need to pull to iback and cache before streaming to host. if you can inspect on the fly and metadta is in front, you can pull it from the stream | 19:50 |
| pvo | eday: I disagree that the iback operations would happen first. | 19:50 |
| eday | and then stream to the host once it has been decided. if the metadata is at the end, well, you'd need to cache the entire thing first | 19:50 |
| pvo | I guess I think the ram requirement in a ovf isn't necessary | 19:51 |
| eday | pvo: well, you *could*, not saying we want to support it. :) | 19:51 |
| eday | pvo: you *could* have the API request trigger a iback cache request, and let the iback trigger the scheduler request | 19:51 |
| pvo | so you'd really want the metadata first, not really the entire image | 19:52 |
| eday | yeah | 19:53 |
| pvo | that can be stored outside the actual gzipped image file | 19:53 |
| antonym | the ovf is the first file of the ova per the spec, so it can be untarred first and read | 19:53 |
| eday | yeah, of if you know it'a always in the beginning, just do a byte-range request to get the first few k or something | 19:54 |
| pvo | ta-da! | 19:54 |
| antonym | we tar the ova in order, so blah.ovf, then image.vhd, etc. then compress to a .ova | 19:54 |
| antonym | would be cool to store ova bundles like we do images | 19:55 |
| eday | but is that guaranteed for all external sources as well? | 19:55 |
| antonym | the ovf is all that matters, if it's not first it breaks the spec | 19:55 |
| antonym | we can then pull all of the remaining data about image files from it and deploy as needed | 19:56 |
| pvo | can't find ovf, then move to error state for build | 19:56 |
| antonym | right | 19:56 |
| eday | that works | 19:57 |
| antonym | for us at least, if memory or storage is listed, we'd have to build the flavor based on which is the largest | 19:57 |
| antonym | we'd just round up to the largest, and if it mentioned 96gb, then don't build it | 19:58 |
| eday | and perhaps have an optional API attribute so if it's not a perfect fit, fail (but default to round up) | 20:01 |
| antonym | yeah | 20:02 |
| comstud | ++ | 20:06 |
| pvo | http://sourceforge.net/projects/mrsync/ | 20:11 |
| pvo | never used it | 20:11 |
| pvo | I keep reading it as mr. sync | 20:11 |
| antonym | http://github.com/lg/murder | 20:12 |
| pvo | yea, the twitter guys... they've been doing this for a while now. | 20:19 |
| antonym | yeah | 20:19 |
| mrayzenoss | I think Facebook may use it too, or at least bittorrent | 20:20 |
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| notmyname | adam (chef guy), are you on? | 19:42 |
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| pvo_ | chris (chef guy) is talking in Austin room.... | 19:52 |
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| notmyname | I ran across a bug in the install_swift.sh that adam provided | 19:55 |
| justinsb | Anyone seen this while doing euca-register? "exceptions.TypeError: character mapping must return integer, None or unicode" | 19:55 |
| pvo | http://wiki.openstack.org/LifeWithBzrAndLaunchpad | 20:07 |
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| soren | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/str-object-for-boto/revision/140 | 21:49 |
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| joshuamckenty | http://code.google.com/p/servicestack/wiki/RedisWindowsDownload | 22:52 |
| joshuamckenty | http://www.rabbitmq.com/install.html#windows | 22:54 |
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| joshuamckenty | http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WindowsBuilds | 22:56 |
| * mtaylor needs to figure out windows slaves for hudson | 22:58 | |
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| ewanmellor | Evening, openstackers! | 04:02 |
| mtaylor | evening | 04:05 |
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| ewanmellor | Does anyone know what the distinction is between the Nova power states "SHUTDOWN" and "SHUTOFF"? They sound like synonyms to me! | 04:23 |
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| antonym | ewanmellor: hard power off vs soft power off via the guest? | 05:00 |
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| exlt | hi all - the freenode #openstack channel is open for business :-) | 15:30 |
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