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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed a change to openstack/swift: AUTHORS and CHANGELOG update for 1.13 release https://review.openstack.org/75759 | 04:56 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: yes, it seems I can't read ;-) | 05:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed a change to openstack/swift: AUTHORS and CHANGELOG update for 1.13 release https://review.openstack.org/75759 | 06:03 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: and fixed. ^ thanks | 06:03 |
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| justIn___ | hii, how many objects can be stored in container ? | 06:17 |
| justIn___ | what is the default limit? | 06:17 |
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| notmyname | justIn___: there is no limit, but best practice is to shard your data across many containers | 06:22 |
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| hugokuo | notmyname: +1 | 06:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Alphabetized items under "Misc" in source documentation https://review.openstack.org/75282 | 06:50 |
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| Anju | justi | 07:18 |
| Anju | justIn___: I herad it 1 million | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Alphabetized items under "Middleware" in source documentation https://review.openstack.org/75294 | 07:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhang Hua proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add profiling middleware in Swift https://review.openstack.org/53270 | 10:49 |
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| GrahamM | I'm trying to dream up an architecture where i have N http servers, acting essentially as a CDN edge, using a distributed cache between, which is swift. the canonical store for the data will be S3, but I need something in front of S3 to keep costs down. | 11:56 |
| GrahamM | and i need promotion and demotion from the distributed cache in order to keep the working set inside swift and bump the rest to the canonical store | 11:57 |
| GrahamM | i see each edge server as a swift node in itself, all running the proxy, all with a few 10's of TB | 11:58 |
| GrahamM | the edges would be Apache at the front, looking on the local cache first (mod_cache?), and then something like: | 11:59 |
| GrahamM | RewriteConf !-f localproxy/file.txt | 11:59 |
| GrahamM | then go to S3 | 11:59 |
| GrahamM | which would be cool, but if an item were popular, i'd like it to get itself into Swift | 12:00 |
| GrahamM | which is the concept i'm struggling with | 12:00 |
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| GrahamM | I could happily reap from the swift cache with something like a auto-deletion of 30 days or something | 12:00 |
| GrahamM | but it's promoting-if-popular from S3 that I'm struggling with the concept of. | 12:02 |
| GrahamM | would people see that as middleware? or something external? | 12:02 |
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| GrahamM | notmyname: any thoughts on the above? ever heard of anyone attempting something like that? | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eamonn O'Toole proposed a change to openstack/swift: Allow specification of object devices for audit https://review.openstack.org/75881 | 14:28 |
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| luisbg | notmyname, https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/writing-a-swift-object-storage-diskfile-backend <-- 257 years!? | 15:27 |
| luisbg | didn't knew the project has been around since before the Enigma machine | 15:27 |
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| gvernik | hello | 16:59 |
| gvernik | I have a middleware that runs on the object server. This MW need to retrieve a content of an object, that doesn't exists on the same object server. For example user send GET /a/c/o and an object server middleware will need to perform GET /a1/c1/o1. | 16:59 |
| gvernik | What is the best way to achieve it? Does it means that my MW need to read location of o1 from object ring, create HTTP request and send it directly to other object server? | 16:59 |
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| themadcanudist | Hey guys, is there any issue with percent encoded (UTF-8) URL paths for swift object storage? I seem to be getting 503 responses when I attempt a PUT? using swift 1.7.5. | 17:23 |
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| themadcanudist | ah, tracing this it looks like it may be in the swift3 middleware (definitely is) | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Pecoraro proposed a change to openstack/swift: Multithread optimization for object updater https://review.openstack.org/75941 | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Pecoraro proposed a change to openstack/swift: Multithread optimization for object updater https://review.openstack.org/75941 | 17:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | paul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: EC: add new storage policy type, add PyEClib req https://review.openstack.org/66482 | 18:02 |
| notmyname | peluse: that patch seems like something that should land after the merge into master | 18:03 |
| peluse | indeed, but you asked us not to use 'draft' so how do I keep the Jenkins msg from spitting this out - I assume any reviewer knows we're not *really* trying to land this yet | 18:07 |
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| notmyname | peluse: ah, yes. -infra has said draft is bad. Work in Progress would be good, I think | 18:09 |
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| peluse | yup, but I think I need to wait til Jenkins runs its tests or WIP will cancel them I thnk (I don't really know but I recall possibly seeing that behavior before... maybe) | 18:13 |
| notmyname | peluse: hmm..ok | 18:13 |
| notmyname | looks like jenkins will be ready for 1.13 RC in about 5 minutes | 18:13 |
| peluse | yeah, I'll mark it WIP again after Jenkins finishes its stuff - we've been doing that (and this one was makred WIP before I just updated it) | 18:14 |
| notmyname | thanks | 18:14 |
| peluse | np | 18:15 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: well, now you've gone and jinxed it :) | 18:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Refactor a quorum-size calculation https://review.openstack.org/75548 | 18:18 |
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| notmyname | oh. that was the change that was in the gate queue | 18:19 |
| notmyname | the other one is still in the check queue | 18:19 |
| torgomatic | yes, which was CLEARLY VITAL TO EVERYTHING ;) | 18:20 |
| notmyname | and just moved over to the gate queue to do the exact same checks again | 18:20 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: work expands to fill the time allotted; clearly this also applies to test runs and VMs | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: AUTHORS and CHANGELOG update for 1.13 release https://review.openstack.org/75759 | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Alphabetized items under other sections in source documentation https://review.openstack.org/75475 | 19:21 |
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| notmyname | commit SHA for Swift 1.13 RC is 58fda94736a5a1eb46a5661669afaee729c4b4ab (ie current tip of master) | 20:09 |
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| notmyname | interested in swift sessions proposed for the atlanta summit? https://swiftstack.com/blog/2014/02/24/openstack-swift-sessions-at-the-atlanta-summit/ | 21:08 |
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| clarkb | running in the check queue prior to the gate queue is a result of the flaky gate queue trouble... it seems to hae helped tremendously to recheck things first | 21:26 |
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| luisbg | notmyname, ping, around? | 21:43 |
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| notmyname | luisbg: just got off the phone. what's up? | 21:44 |
| luisbg | notmyname, voted for the talks, do you know if they will be available online for those of us who can't make it to Atlanta? | 21:45 |
| notmyname | clarkb: ya, extra compute cycles, but since they aren't pipelined in the check queue, maybe errors are found earlier. and yes, it seems things have been better | 21:46 |
| notmyname | clarkb: I'm still looking for the pruning of gate jobs ;-) | 21:46 |
| notmyname | luisbg: yes, I think they will be (after the event) | 21:46 |
| luisbg | notmyname, nice | 21:46 |
| luisbg | https://www.openstack.org/vote-atlanta/Presentation/the-biggest-thing-in-openstack-swift-since-it-was-open-sourced-storage-policies | 21:46 |
| luisbg | looks very interesting | 21:46 |
| luisbg | notmyname, last night you recommended I use a database to store all the metadata of my stored music, and you said to run updates to the db periodically. Wondering now how you think the database should be populated, opening all object files by Swift GET or should I read the metadata from the object headers? | 21:48 |
| luisbg | (planning to continue writing this tonight, so thinking about it) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | luisbg: new user starts with a new empty local sqlite db. populate it as music is imported. and then every so often, upload the db to the swift cluster too. then on next app start (or reinstall or whatever), check the cluster for a db for that user | 21:51 |
| notmyname | luisbg: and then Do Magic (tm) to resolve conflicts if the same user is logged in in 2 places at once ;-) | 21:52 |
| luisbg | but populating the database is with metadata from reading the file headers or from the user sending it as x-object-meta-X? | 21:52 |
| notmyname | if you do it on ingest, you'd take it from the local copy and only commit it after you've saved it in swift. hmm..but you'd still need to handle a failure between the two, so you'd need a way to crawl the data in swift and repopulate the local db | 21:54 |
| notmyname | luisbg: but in all cases, you'd still set the metadata in swift with the x-object-meta- headers | 21:55 |
| luisbg | notmyname, related to this, when you say "populate it as music is imported" | 21:55 |
| luisbg | makes me think, or I have a hook where I can be notified when a new object is uploaded to Swift | 21:56 |
| luisbg | or I have to add a man-in-the-middle that takes the upload request, notifies the db code, and then uploads to Swift | 21:57 |
| notmyname | luisbg: well I'm going on the assumption that you are loading the music from the same app. but if that's not true, then it's actually a lot simpler (just slower). in that case, "just" do a HEAD to every object and build the index | 21:57 |
| luisbg | does Swift have such a hook? | 21:57 |
| luisbg | notmyname, currently, by having a gtk client... the loading and playing aren't really in the same app. It will be once I port it to HTML5 | 21:58 |
| luisbg | OK, I will do that for building the index | 21:58 |
| luisbg | now just wondering when to know there is new content | 21:58 |
| notmyname | luisbg: no hooks (and the listener wouldn't even necessarily be online when an object is saved). so you'll have to do a listing and compare it to your saved index | 21:59 |
| luisbg | notmyname, ok! so manually. I check for all content, check if it is all "known", and add to the database all that isn't | 22:00 |
| luisbg | notmyname, thanks for the help :) | 22:00 |
| notmyname | luisbg: from a pure client app (ie no custom swift middleware) that strategy should work as long as each user's data isn't too big (<100K songs). and that's probably true | 22:01 |
| luisbg | yeah, I'm starting with the "basics" | 22:02 |
| luisbg | the idea of looking into how custom swift middleware works and optimizes use cases, is exciting, but one step at a time | 22:02 |
| luisbg | (also, your recheck of 74578 last night passed) | 22:03 |
| luisbg | notmyname, https://github.com/luisbg/supersonic <-- maybe a bit too soon for anybody interested to read | 22:04 |
| luisbg | will add the database handling tonight | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/75596 | 22:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jon Snitow proposed a change to openstack/swift: Non-blocking but useful improvements to Account ACLs https://review.openstack.org/69321 | 23:28 |
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| torgomatic | here's a fun bug for any of you swiftclient-loving types: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+bug/1284360 | 23:30 |
| luisbg | torgomatic, can I assign it to myself? | 23:36 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: maybe it has some sort of 1k buffer? | 23:36 |
| luisbg | looks like a good one | 23:36 |
| notmyname | luisbg: awesome! | 23:36 |
| torgomatic | luisbg: feel free | 23:36 |
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| * torgomatic isn't working on it | 23:37 | |
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| luisbg | torgomatic, cool cool | 23:37 |
| luisbg | nice to have a new bug assigned to me | 23:37 |
| luisbg | will finish this sqlite handling tonight, and look at this bug after that (probably tomorrow morning) | 23:37 |
| luisbg | notmyname, my pleasure :) | 23:38 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: my guess is it's the intersection of requests (lots of module-level stuff) and swiftclient (threads) | 23:39 |
| luisbg | torgomatic, ok! thanks | 23:39 |
| luisbg | will report what I find in the bug | 23:39 |
| luisbg | heading home now, bbl | 23:39 |
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