Tuesday, 2014-07-29

notmynamemattoliverau: this week, so far, I've submitted summit talks, talked to customers, and I'm currently diagnosing failing probe tests on my saio00:00
mattoliveraunotmyname: lol, I have I feeling I'm not going to live this down for a while ... keep up the good work :P00:05
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notmynamemattoliverau: I was scared that if I didn't say anything, you'd write a bot to automatically email me00:05
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notmyname..and with that, i'm going home.00:06
mattoliveraunotmyname: lol, yes I will so you better remember that :P00:07
mattoliveraunotmyname: o/00:07
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wkelly35504:01
wkellyer, sorry :P04:01
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jyoti-ranjanOne clarification, I need related to Swift replica count.04:57
jyoti-ranjanAsp er my understanding Swift replica count is part of ring and should not be changed afterwards ring is pushed to nodes and is used for storage.04:57
jyoti-ranjanCan we change replica count say after one year of operation of Swift cluster?04:58
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torgomaticYes, swift-ring-builder lets you change the replica count of a ring. You can even set it to a fractional value.05:27
torgomaticThat way you can go from 3 to 3.02 to 3.04 to ... to 3.98 to 4 over a long time; that way you can avoid excessive replication05:29
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mattoliverauDinner time, I'm calling it a day. Night all!08:11
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openstackgerritPramita Gautam proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Modifying "swift post" command to display help  https://review.openstack.org/10980210:13
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ttrummhi swift getting this error: http://pastebin.com/aY4qC6E310:51
ttrummhow te debug this timeout10:52
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ttrumm container-replicator: 108 successes, 0 failures10:53
ttrummaccount-replicator: 8 successes, 0 failures10:53
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ctennisttrumm: you're probably running out of TCP ports.11:07
ctennisthat is, the error is likely more system related, not Swift related11:07
ttrummand i can increase it?11:07
ttrummtcp ports?11:08
ttrummso swift uses thouseds?11:08
ctennisyeah, Swift will use whatever the OS allows11:08
ctennisDo some google searches for EADDRNOTAVAIL that should turn up some advise11:09
ttrummk thanks11:09
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peluse_acoles_away:  FYI I'm still looking at your keystone v3 patch - had some issues on the keystone side but finally making some progress...12:59
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pradeephi15:10
pradeepcan we have a user defined metadata like "X-Object-Manifest"?15:10
pradeepi thoght we can have user defined metadata if its starts with "x-object-meta"15:11
pconstantinepradeep: Static Large Objects?15:13
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pradeepi was going through the object server UT where it stores "X-Object-Manifest" in test_POST_update_meta method , but i think it will not be stored because of check for "x-object-meta" in object put15:15
pradeeppconstantine : i was going through the object server UT where it stores "X-Object-Manifest" in test_POST_update_meta method , but i think it will not be stored because of check for "x-object-meta" in object put15:16
pconstantinepradeep:15:20
pconstantine        default_allowed_headers = '''15:20
pconstantine            content-disposition,15:20
pconstantine            content-encoding,15:20
pconstantine            x-delete-at,15:20
pconstantine            x-object-manifest,15:20
pconstantine            x-static-large-object,15:20
pconstantine        '''15:20
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* notmyname will only be online sporadically this morning.15:41
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hugokuoDoes anyone know which Windows client tool support Large Object Support of Swift ??17:36
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dolphmwe're talking about swift's perspective on keystone's PKI tokens in the #openstack-meeting channel if anyone is interested in joining18:38
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morganfainbergare any swift core's around, could use one over in #openstack-meeting, want to run a keystone question (re: token sizes) by you so we all [keystone team] know the issues with PKI18:41
morganfainbergnotmyname, creiht, portante, ^18:41
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925018:46
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873618:46
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portantenotmyname, creiht: answered morganfainberg on #openstack-keystone20:05
morganfainbergportante, ++ thanks so much.20:07
morganfainbergreally appreciate it20:07
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portantewelcome20:07
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* notmyname just got back online20:20
notmynameportante: thanks20:20
notmynamemorganfainberg: did you get everything you needed? (I expect so with portante on the case)20:20
portantewelcome20:20
portanteha! not so sure he did!20:20
morganfainbergnotmyname, yep20:20
morganfainbergnotmyname, got the answers i needed20:20
notmynamegreat20:21
notmynamejust curious, what's the resolution? any changes upcoming we should be aware of?20:21
morganfainbergnotmyname, it was PKI token size questions20:21
notmynamechmouel: BTW, great blog post20:21
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notmynamemorganfainberg: "it's too big"20:21
morganfainbergwhether the concern was *only* for repeated requests (e.g. 1 user requesting many objects) or any number of users requesting any number of objects (e.g. 1 off requests)20:22
morganfainbergi read the concern as being the latter20:22
morganfainbergportante confirmed that20:22
morganfainbergthat is 1 off requests *or* repeated requests20:22
notmynameyup. caching becomes actually a negative in that case20:22
morganfainbergnotmyname, yeah, so we're exploring what we can do to make uuid tokens scale better20:23
notmynamemorganfainberg: cool20:23
morganfainbergthis is the etherpad that spawned from the meeting20:23
morganfainberghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pki-vs-uuid20:23
morganfainbergcomparing uuid vs pki20:24
notmynamemorganfainberg: other things to consider would be a shared secret with an HMAC signed request. again, not cachable, but much easier to scale than a giant header token20:24
morganfainbergnotmyname, that isn't really a lot different than uuid tokens20:24
morganfainbergnotmyname, minor improvement, but same basic concept.20:24
notmynamemorganfainberg: it's a lot different from the end-user perspective20:25
morganfainbergnotmyname, right, enhancing how the tokens work from UX is different than how they work in the server20:25
morganfainbergif we did that, we'd still need most of the uuid enhancement work20:25
notmynamemorganfainberg: right. makes sense.20:25
morganfainbergthe way i see it: make uuid tokens scale better, work on making more secure/better20:26
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mattoliverauGood morning channel :)22:16
notmynamemattoliverau: hi22:17
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mattoliveraunotmyname: it's a very quiet channel this moring! So I may have slightly over engineered the bot, I've reworked it so it store cahnges, attempted notifications, dates etc in a mysql database (rather then originally in a json blob) so in time we can do statistical goodness to it. (Also so I can be lazy and have a simple php file hit the database and list the changes ready to be abandoned by cores) [that is until I add23:42
mattoliverauauto abandon to it ;)]  I'll be testing the email notifications today, but will hack it to send it to me, so I can make sure we don't spam users.23:42
mattoliverauIf we want to follow the SMTP protocol properly, emails "should" be sent via a trusted SMTP server for the domain.. that is if we want to make sure all users receive the email. But maybe that isn't so important cause if worse comes to worse they can always unabandon their change.23:45
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notmynamemattoliverau: ya, it has been pretty quiet lately23:49
notmynamelots of people focusing on internal stuff, I suspect23:50
mattoliveraunotmyname: its a good sign it means everyone is working hard... or on holudays :P23:50
mattoliverau*holidays23:50
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