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| yuan | Hi, does Swift support versioning a object manifest file(DLO/SLO)? I've checked part of the code and seems it's not fully supported | 01:24 |
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| jyoti-ranjan | Hi, i have one basic question | 03:40 |
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| jyoti-ranjan | Do we need to re-start Swift services after updating ring files? I think no | 03:41 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: no. ring files are automatically reloaded (it checks the file's mtime to see if there is a newer one available) | 03:41 |
| jyoti-ranjan | but if we do update configuration files, we will have to. Am I correct? | 03:42 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: note that after updating the ring files you'll have to deploy those to your servers. | 03:42 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: correct. config files are not auto-reloaded | 03:42 |
| jyoti-ranjan | yes, you are right | 03:42 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: (I suggested adding auto-reload to config files. it didn't go over well ;-) | 03:42 |
| jyoti-ranjan | <notmyname> :-) that would have been nice and would have been applicable to all openstack services | 03:43 |
| jyoti-ranjan | <notmyname> not sure it has complication as processes need to do more than what it is doing right now. For ring file, it is ok because it is just a data structure. So it is easy. | 03:44 |
| notmyname | it wasn't just the opinion of some guy ont he internet. there are certain cases in production clusters where aut-reloading of config files makes life difficult for ops | 03:44 |
| notmyname | right | 03:44 |
| jyoti-ranjan | <notmyname> I agree with use case. | 03:45 |
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| notmyname | it's a tricky balance | 03:46 |
| notmyname | I want to make swift easier to deploy and run. but I also don't want swift to reinvent config management | 03:46 |
| notmyname | and it's not like swift exists in isolation of existing tools and other systems already deployed in someones infra | 03:47 |
| jyoti-ranjan | true | 03:48 |
| notmyname | I'm headed out for the night. I'll be back online later | 03:50 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: if you have other questions, i'll see them in the morning and answer then (unless someone else does first) | 03:50 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: please feel free to stick around and ask and listen | 03:50 |
| jyoti-ranjan | <notmyname> thanks | 03:51 |
| notmyname | jyoti-ranjan: I love talking to and listening to how people using swift and why and what they need for it to do :-) | 03:51 |
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| jyoti-ranjan | <notmyname> I will need your help sometime to understand at what size of workload we should segregate Proxy/Account/Containter with object storage nodes. I will catch you sometime later as it is late for you. | 03:53 |
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| iamflying | Hello, I got "401 Unauthorized: Temp URL invalid" when I tried to use swift temp url | 04:49 |
| iamflying | I did configure the proxy-server.conf as following | 04:50 |
| iamflying | [filter:tempurl] use = egg:swift#tempurl incoming_allow_headers = incoming_remove_headers = x-timestamp methods = GET HEAD PUT POST DELETE outgoing_allow_headers = x-object-meta-public-* outgoing_remove_headers = x-object-meta-* | 04:50 |
| iamflying | pipeline = catch_errors bulk healthcheck cache crossdomain ratelimit tempurl authtoken keystone staticweb slo formpost account_quotas container_quotas proxy-server | 04:50 |
| iamflying | any ideas? | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Add keystone specific functional tests https://review.openstack.org/123514 | 10:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/122327 | 11:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gil Vernik proposed a change to openstack/swift: On demand data migration for Swift https://review.openstack.org/64430 | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gil Vernik proposed a change to openstack/swift: On demand data migration for Swift https://review.openstack.org/64430 | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gil Vernik proposed a change to openstack/swift: On demand data migration for Swift https://review.openstack.org/64430 | 13:27 |
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| smart_developer | Why do my logs keep saying that "account-replicator: Attempted to replicate 5 dbs in 0.02954 seconds (348.17279/s)" | 13:31 |
| smart_developer | "Removed 0 dbs" | 13:31 |
| smart_developer | "10 successes, 0 failures" | 13:32 |
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| smart_developer | where is the "10" in "10 successes" coming from? | 13:32 |
| smart_developer | It's replicating only 5 dbs, right? | 13:32 |
| smart_developer | last line is "no_change:10 ts_repl:0 diff:0 rsync:0 diff_capped:0 hashmatch:0 empty:0". | 13:33 |
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| smart_developer | Does anyone know what to do with this error, which shows up in object-expirer.log ? | 13:56 |
| smart_developer | "swift error connecting to memcached ECONNREFUSED"\ | 13:56 |
| smart_developer | "swift error connecting to memcached ECONNREFUSED" | 13:56 |
| smart_developer | Thank you :) | 13:56 |
| mandarine | have you started your memcached ? ;) | 13:58 |
| mandarine | The ones defines in swift-proxy.conf | 13:58 |
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| smart_developer | mandarine : Just "service memcached start", right? | 14:15 |
| smart_developer | mandarine : How do you test to know that memcached is working, for your Swift cluster ? | 14:22 |
| smart_developer | Thanks :) | 14:22 |
| smart_developer | What operations does Swift use memcached for, anyway ? | 14:23 |
| mandarine | smart_developer: i personnally do nc -vvvv <memcached_server_ip>:11211 . But it does not mean it's the right thing to do | 14:26 |
| notmyname | acoles: have you had a chance to further try out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120713/7 | 14:26 |
| mandarine | smart_developer: If I remember correctly, it's for caching a little bit | 14:26 |
| acoles | notmyname: not yet sorry | 14:27 |
| * acoles makes a note | 14:27 | |
| notmyname | acoles: ok. just curious | 14:27 |
| * notmyname is looking through https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews this morning | 14:28 | |
| acoles | notmyname: can I add the swiftclient/keystone fix to priority reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123168/ ? | 14:29 |
| notmyname | acoles: ah yes. please. | 14:29 |
| notmyname | acoles: and I've got it on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 14:29 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok, thanks. btw i have reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120795/ today | 14:34 |
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| acoles | and will look at the swiftclient companion patch | 14:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darrell Bishop proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add container_count to policy_stat table https://review.openstack.org/120795 | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yuan Zhou proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fixes versioning DLO/SLO objects https://review.openstack.org/123765 | 15:42 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123168 soon? | 15:46 |
| notmyname | chmouel: it fixes a keystone v3 regression | 15:47 |
| chmouel | yep doing it now | 15:47 |
| chmouel | go i hate so much that os_options thing | 15:48 |
| notmyname | chmouel: thanks | 15:49 |
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| notmyname | acoles: I'm getting a lot of unittest errors on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123168 | 16:06 |
| notmyname | but jenkins isn't, so there's probably something I'm doing wrong | 16:06 |
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| acoles | notmyname: :( can you paste the errors? i wonder if its an env issue | 16:07 |
| notmyname | acoles: yeah. there is a _ton_ of output. I'm trying to find what the 6 errors actually are :-/ | 16:08 |
| notmyname | https://gist.github.com/notmyname/50d1c39cd4d93686a179 | 16:09 |
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| notmyname | master has no errors | 16:09 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok, i'll dig. suspect it may be an env issue, although i thought i'd mocked that | 16:10 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks | 16:10 |
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| acoles | notmyname: got it. patch.dict updates but doesn't clear the os.environ dict by default | 16:26 |
| acoles | notmyname: so if you clear your env of ST_ and OS_ variables then tests should pass | 16:27 |
| * acoles will fix of course | 16:28 | |
| notmyname | acoles: ah ok | 16:28 |
| acoles | notmyname: i knew i shouldn't have bothered with the tests ;) | 16:28 |
| notmyname | heh | 16:28 |
| notmyname | they just get in the way | 16:28 |
| notmyname | PASSED (id=35) | 16:29 |
| notmyname | acoles: what do you think? another patch set here to fix this? or a follow-on patch so this one has less churn before landing? | 16:30 |
| notmyname | ah. chmouel had the same issue it seems | 16:30 |
| chmouel | ah yeah notmyname you just need to for x in $(env|grep OS_);do unset ${x%=*};done | 16:31 |
| chmouel | beforehand | 16:31 |
| chmouel | oops sorry just reading the backlog | 16:31 |
| chmouel | yeah didn't add anything new here ;) | 16:31 |
| notmyname | chmouel: what do you think? new patch set or follow-on patch? | 16:32 |
| notmyname | chmouel: was you -1 because of the OS_ options or something else? | 16:32 |
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| chmouel | just cause of the OS_ options, | 16:33 |
| chmouel | cause i know some CIs that validate python-swiftclient has those OS_ options set and will fail | 16:34 |
| chmouel | but either way i am fine if there is a quick followup patch | 16:34 |
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| chmouel | (external ci for packaging) | 16:35 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: so we'd need the follow-on patch before a release anyway? | 16:35 |
| chmouel | yep correct | 16:35 |
| notmyname | then might as well add it to this patch and then tag the release after it lands | 16:36 |
| notmyname | acoles: ^ thoughts? | 16:36 |
| acoles | chmouel: notmyname: i'll fix the OS_ env variables issue in this patch. | 16:37 |
| notmyname | acoles: ok thanks | 16:37 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: will you be able to re-review the new patch set soon? | 16:37 |
| chmouel | yep i think in the next hours, rosh hashanah dinner is tonight 8-) | 16:38 |
| acoles | chmouel: ok, i'm on it, thanks | 16:39 |
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| chmouel | will brb in half an hour | 16:43 |
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| mahatic | notmyname, good morning. Did you happen to figure out some tasks? | 16:51 |
| notmyname | mahatic: not yet. thanks for the email. but I've been focusing on getting swift/swiftclient ready for the Juno release | 16:52 |
| notmyname | mahatic: I'll reply to your email, and we can figure out something that will work well for you | 16:52 |
| mahatic | notmyname, sure. no problem. When is juno release due for? (just curious) | 16:53 |
| mahatic | notmyname, and thank you | 16:55 |
| notmyname | mahatic: the juno integrated release is october 16. release candidates will start being cut next week | 16:55 |
| notmyname | swift tentative RC date is oct 6 | 16:55 |
| mahatic | ah okay | 16:56 |
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| notmyname | acoles: lookin | 17:20 |
| notmyname | g | 17:20 |
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| notmyname | openstackgerrit: welcome back! | 17:27 |
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| notmyname | acoles: chmouel: thanks | 17:35 |
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| chmouel | tks | 17:36 |
| acoles | chmouel: thanks for quick review! i agree with your other comments on the patch and would like to clean up some of that code is possible | 17:37 |
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| acoles | notmyname: thx. back later for mtg | 17:37 |
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| clayg | acoles: ok, i owe you one - thanks for working on that with swifterdarrell | 17:57 |
| acoles | clayg: welcome | 17:58 |
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| swifterdarrell | acoles: yes, thanks! | 18:05 |
| notmyname | acoles: I think I just heard clayg say he'd buy you a beer (or wine?) in paris | 18:08 |
| acoles | notmyname: clayg: oh, i have to wait til paris, how about next week? ;) | 18:09 |
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| acoles | notmyname: just heading for home, may be a few mins late to meeting | 18:24 |
| notmyname | ok | 18:25 |
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| kbee | torgomatic: zaitcev: the necessary changes are in for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122225/.. can you pls take a look.. | 18:41 |
| notmyname | team meeting in 15 minutes | 18:45 |
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| notmyname | meeting time in #openstack-meeting | 18:59 |
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| clayg | heh | 19:21 |
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| notmyname | /lunch | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Keshava Bharadwaj proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fixes unit tests to clean up temporary directories https://review.openstack.org/123835 | 20:01 |
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| notmyname | oh! I completely forgot one more thing I meant to say in the meeting | 20:35 |
| notmyname | openstack PTL elections are open, so if you're interested in doing that, now's the time to nominate yourself | 20:35 |
| notmyname | deadline is friday | 20:36 |
| * notmyname is planing to self-nominate later this week | 20:36 | |
| zaitcev | Sounds like too much responsibility. | 20:38 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: you do have to talk to a lot of people. and you don't get to code too much | 20:39 |
| notmyname | (in my case I'm not coding too much, you're welcome!) | 20:40 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: check out the mimes! https://github.com/smerritt/swift/tree/putter | 20:52 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/203/f/8/taylor_swift_the_mime_by_musicman30141-d6enksv.jpg | 20:53 |
| notmyname | it's a swift mime! | 20:53 |
| notmyname | I found one instance where https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120713/7 actually reports more partitions moved now | 20:55 |
| notmyname | https://gist.github.com/notmyname/d0d6c8fe510f1363dd33 | 20:56 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: I'm hoping your branch name will then be "solar_orbit" when you get around to submitting that ;-) | 20:59 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: that branch I sent you a link to is in a state of "functionally works"... so the object and proxy servers are actually exchanging data via the 100 Continue response and doing crazy stuff accordingly | 21:03 |
| notmyname | nice | 21:04 |
| torgomatic | if you have a second to look at it and tell me anything egregious that you see, that'd be lovely | 21:04 |
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| torgomatic | obviously it's not gerrit-ready since the unit tests are all sorts of broken, but that's the basic plan for what I want to do | 21:04 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: ok, I'll look | 21:04 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: does my gist make sense? | 21:05 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: maybe? haven't looked, but I'll go do that now | 21:05 |
| torgomatic | eyeball swap! | 21:05 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: does it happen even if you use a fixed random seed? that's my first thought; the PRNG is doing different stuff on the different runs | 21:06 |
| zaitcev | I learned about Taylor Swift when a crazy Canadian managed to fly a 172 into Nashville (a Class C field) overnight without anyone noticing and balled it up on landing. Apparently he wanted to stake out her house. | 21:07 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: yeah, maybe. except I've seen the same results over several runs | 21:07 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: let me go add a seed | 21:07 |
| notmyname | hard-coded seed of "2" and it gives 28 (patched) vs 26 (master) parts moved | 21:10 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: wacky | 21:13 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: since the whole conversation was around reporting *lower* numbers as more accurate, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something | 21:14 |
| torgomatic | well, it's sort of subtle... basically the tool isn't reporting partitions moved | 21:15 |
| torgomatic | it's reporting (partition, replica) *pairs* that moved | 21:15 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: last part of that script is to add an empty drive. and if you do a subsequent rebalance, same behavior is seen | 21:15 |
| torgomatic | and before, there was no dupe checking or anything... so if one pass of _gather_reassign_parts picked up a part and then it dropped somewhere else, and then it got picked up by the next pass and moved again, it'd be double-counted | 21:16 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: so (part42, rep1) moved to (part42, rep2) is reported as moved, even if it's just an index move and doens't result in data movement | 21:16 |
| torgomatic | so part goes A --> B --> C was two "moves" before, but now just one | 21:16 |
| torgomatic | of course this only happens with min_part_hours = 0, which you have set in your script | 21:17 |
| torgomatic | right, so like a deleted device... ($part, 0), ($part, 1), and ($part, 2) will all move, and the text output will count that as 3 moved partitions | 21:17 |
| torgomatic | I wonder if this still happens if you set min_part_hours=1 and use pretend_min_part_hours_passed prior to each rebalance | 21:18 |
| notmyname | this is a great article https://opensource.com/business/14/9/community-best-practices-new-era-open-source | 21:20 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: number of parts moved matches exactly when using pretend_min_part_hours_passed | 21:23 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: that makes sense in my mind | 21:25 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: basically because the min part hours of 0 means that more than one thing can happen in a single pass. right? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | that's not the right way to phrase it | 21:26 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: yeah, multiple replicas can move, or a given replica can move more than once | 21:26 |
| torgomatic | min_part_hours > 0 locks that down | 21:26 |
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| notmyname | +2/+1 | 21:27 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: your putter patches (diffs) seem good | 21:54 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: there are several nits or things that I'm not sure about. but since I know that you havent' even gotten to tests yet, I'm not focusing on those | 21:55 |
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| notmyname | the water heater has been leaking for a few days now. plumber is coming Real Soon Now (tm) | 21:58 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The openstack-infra/config repo will be frozen for project-configuration changes starting at 00:01 UTC. If you have a pending configuration change that has not merged or is not in the queue, please see us in #openstack-infra. | 21:58 | |
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| mattoliverau | Morning... again | 22:05 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: thanks | 22:27 |
| notmyname | has anyone had a _good_ experience with a plumber? you know, when they come in and say, "oh you just need to tighten this. here let me do that". | 22:36 |
| notmyname | as opposed to the "oh the whole water heater needs to be replaced. but I can't do that because the solid concrete base isnt' up to code, so that needs to be rebuilt first. oh and this needs a new valve. that needs upgrading too" | 22:37 |
| mattoliverau | not yet, but theres always hope | 22:37 |
| notmyname | heh | 22:37 |
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