Tuesday, 2014-10-14

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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed a change to openstack/swift-bench: Clean up some conf parsing  https://review.openstack.org/12814700:57
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openstackgerritpaul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add another device to SAIO to support the default EC development environment.  https://review.openstack.org/12815402:12
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notmynamehello, world02:54
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hugokuohello John03:03
mattoliveraunotmyname: hey, Have a good holiday?03:05
notmynameyeah, we did03:05
hugokuonice03:05
notmynamewe toured the USS America (a new ship commissioned this week here in SF). https://twitter.com/notmyname/status/52182927187955712003:06
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notmynamethen we went to a vintage arcade that was really cool. http://www.museemecaniquesf.com03:06
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mattoliverauAwesome, looks like a great day out :)03:08
hugokuohad you use/play those stuff in childhood ?03:08
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notmynamemost of those are older than my great-grandfather ;-)03:09
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notmynamebut they had a few old video arcade games (eg pole position, centipede, etc) that were fun to play03:10
* hugokuo Hugo loves vintage. I have to go place like that in CA next time03:13
notmynamehugokuo: definitely you should. it's got all kinds of crazy stuff. some really cool old games and even some things that are basically just huge animatronics powered by a quarter03:16
notmynameeg there is one that's an entire carnival. trapeze, fighters, side shows, animals, everything, all moving. and it's probably 3m by 2m. and probably over a hundred years old03:18
notmynamehugokuo: mattoliverau: (and others currently not working US business hours....) update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-swift-summit-topics with stuff you want to talk about in paris (or stuff you think should be talked about)03:19
mattoliveraunotmyname: sure thing!03:20
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* hugokuo will read ut later and have some feedback03:21
notmynameit's still in brainstorm phase right now. we'll organize and schedule starting next week03:21
hugokuocharz: ^^03:21
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zaitcevmy god. I had no idea that making .next() a generator actually worked. Also, my Bezeley book claims that if you return from a generator, it's the same thing as raising StopIterate.03:22
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notmynamezaitcev: what do you mean by "making next() a generator"?03:22
notmynameyeah, generator + return = StopIteration03:22
zaitcevwell you have a        dev next(): yield 103:23
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notmynamehow are you using that? and what's the result of calling .next() in that class instance? you get a generator of generators? I guess that makes sense03:26
notmynamezaitcev: heh. and the next unread email I got to is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128135/03:27
notmyname:-)03:27
mattoliverauA generator is a type of iterator, so they use the same "interface". (next and stopiteration)03:28
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zaitcevnotmyname: yeah, I tried to see how that even worked to begin with03:31
notmynamemattoliverau: yeah. just the whole "yo dawg I heard you like generators so I put a generator in your generator so you can yield while you yield" thing03:32
mattoliveraulol, you can never have too many generators :P03:33
zaitcev"This is especially worrysome for services like sshd, but in my experience more services are affected by this, in my case at least dovecot, named, postfix, radicale, sshd. / If services can be improved/patched (ideally upstream) to use rtnetlink/IP_FREEBIND, that's even better." https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1119787 (very long)03:38
zaitcevUbuntu answer: "NetworkManager.service just starts NetworkManager and does not wait for it to bring up a network interface. This seems appropriate, but network.target should not become active until a network connection is up. An extra unit, wait-for-network.service, has been created to delay network.target. "03:39
zaitcevSo now units for Fedora do the upstream thing with network-online.target and units for Ubuntu do the wait-for-network.service03:39
zaitcevEveryone should probably start thinking about bind_ip=0.0.0.0 for now03:40
zaitcevAnd not just on proxies03:40
notmynameoh, speaking of that. now that we've tagged the juno release, we can propose/land new recommendations for bind_port on storage nodes. zaitcev didn't you want something in the 62xx range?03:46
zaitcevYes03:46
zaitcevWell, 57xx would be fine too but everyone seems to like 62xx for some reason03:47
notmynamezaitcev: why 62xx?03:47
zaitcevI think that number floated up from the bowels of the horrible The SElinux Team and stuck03:48
zaitcevI already have RPMs in Fedora that do that and I think you promised that in some commit text or other.03:49
zaitcevI can change, of course. I came up with 57xx as one reasonably free, by trawling through /etc/services.03:50
notmynamehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers03:50
zaitcevwell, everything is assigned nowadays. Just need to find something assigned to services that were dead for more than 20 years or never existed03:50
notmynamezaitcev: I don't have a strong preference, other than making it easier to deploy. and if SELinux Team says something, sure that's fine I guess.03:51
notmynamezaitcev: so if your patch that changes configs and docs to 62xx gets proposed first, then I guess you also get to match your existing packages ;-)03:51
zaitcevthanks for the hint, putting it into todo03:53
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notmynamegood night all.04:08
mattoliveraunotmyname: night04:12
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openstackgerritMatthew Oliver proposed a change to openstack/swift: Add concurrent reads option to proxy  https://review.openstack.org/11771004:30
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werI had something interesting happen.  There is a  syslog-ng memory leak that I was suffering from in 12.04.  The process had eaten ~3G resident and 6G virt.  Even so, I had so much ram that my swift node was not in danger of swap for some time.  I restarted syslog-ng anyway to free up the ram (reload vs restart is the leak).  I think my object server died sometime after that, and the node was angry.  before this, I had been running06:18
wer steady for 4 months.06:18
redboYeah, swift doesn't react well to losing syslog connections.  I'd suggest using UDP syslog.06:21
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werredbo: thanks.  That explains a lot :)06:22
werI have 15 more nodes to test on and was going to watch closely tomorrow so that helps :)06:22
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werbtw.  What a gross leak.  affected our openstack computes too :/   http://code.google.com/p/security-onion/issues/detail?id=39406:25
redboyeah, we went back to rsyslog.06:26
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ahalewe did ? or is that a different we07:15
ahalewe are seeing that huge syslog-ng thing in prod, thanks for link07:16
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/swift: Functional tests for data migration middleware  https://review.openstack.org/12347310:27
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/swift: Make in process functional tests use sample proxy-server.conf  https://review.openstack.org/12760711:12
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peluseacoles, I'm around so ping me when ready (no hurry though)12:32
acolespeluse: i'm at desk so call any time, or you want me to call you?12:33
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peluseacoles, hmm, tried calling it didn't seem to work.  yeah, buzz me at 480 554 368812:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Convert maximum length to integer in name_check  https://review.openstack.org/12531513:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift-bench: Fix next on SourceFile  https://review.openstack.org/12813513:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift-bench: Clean up some conf parsing  https://review.openstack.org/12814713:59
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notmynamegood morning, world15:24
elambertmornin'15:24
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notmynamecool. travel tips for the paris summit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Travel_Tips15:43
glangeI think this is going to be the most romantic openstack summit ever15:45
openstackgerritpaul luse proposed a change to openstack/swift-specs: Updates to EC design spec  https://review.openstack.org/12519015:49
pelusemorning15:49
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notmynamepeluse: is that the current EC spec or is there more coming today? ie is that the patch you mentioned via email15:52
notmynamepeluse: ah. just saw the new email :-)15:52
pelusethe one I just sent in email is the one above and is all I plan to do until after tomorrow.  back to coding...15:52
pelusecool15:53
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redboahale: oh, I thought we were running on rsyslog since forever.  I guess I was mistaken.17:55
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openstackgerritanju Tiwari proposed a change to openstack/swift: Added a check for limit value  https://review.openstack.org/11818618:24
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torgomaticthank you, unattended-upgrades; without you, my benchmark results might be valid.18:32
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notmynameon the other hand, shellshock18:41
notmyname;-)18:41
claygswifterdarrell: so i may have lost, but only because the behavior is wrong ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/138117818:45
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swift_fanWhat do you think are the biggest determining factors, of bringing down the price of cloud object storage ?20:11
notmynameswift release notes updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Object_Storage_.28Swift.2920:15
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mattoliverauMorning21:28
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notmynameeveryone please continue to update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-swift-summit-topics with summit topics21:31
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swift_fanIs there a way to "gracefully stop" stunnel ?21:49
swift_fanhttps://swiftstack.com/blog/2013/12/20/upgrade-openstack-swift-no-downtime/ doesn't seem to explain.21:49
swift_fanAnd most sources for implementing a continuous upgrading process seem to point to that resource.21:49
zaitcevThere's no word "stunnel" in that article.21:49
zaitcevAnd I cannot guess how stunnel could be related to Swift. Not to mention how you "stop" one.21:50
swift_fanwell, in Swift you have "swift-init _____ shutdown" instead of just "swift-init _____ stop".21:51
zaitcevAnd? What does it have to do with stunnel?21:51
swift_fanI'm wondering if stunnel has an equivalent as well.21:51
swift_fanFor gracefully stopping the service.21:51
swifterdarrellswift_fan: try #stunnel?21:51
swift_fanswifterdarrell : There is no such.21:52
zackmdavisswift_fan, what have you tried so far?21:52
swifterdarrellswift_fan: rats! I guess you'll have to either read the source code (stunnel is open-source, right?), perhaps a man page or two?21:53
zaitcevThis can't be real21:53
zaitcevAnd I think it's smart_developer under a new nick21:53
notmynamezaitcev: yes21:54
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mattoliverauswift_fan: you could check the init script, add a graceful your self, (send a nice kill (12)) and then wait, if it doesn't work after x amount of then kill -9. Or you can block _new_ connections to then stunnel port and kill once existing connections are finished. (Script it). But first check to see if a graceful stop exists in the man page or source.21:59
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swifterdarrellswift_fan: don't forget to gracefully restart your stunnel after you patch the SSL 3.0 vulnerability tomorrow: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/14/nasty_ssl_30_vulnerability_to_drop_tomorrow/22:04
acorwinswift_fan: i thought that was gonna be an onion link at first glance...22:09
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notmynameacorwin: it is el reg...22:11
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notmynameFYI, time to go check your SSLv3 implementation (ie turn it off) http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18151930#1815193022:55
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AlexNHi! Could you please tell will Juno release support Erasure Codes?23:12
notmynameAlexN: no. juno has already been cut, and the ec work is currently ongoing23:12
AlexNthx!23:18
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