Tuesday, 2014-10-21

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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Replaces Stacktraces with useful error messages.  https://review.openstack.org/12540708:23
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openstackgerritJoanna H. Huang proposed a change to openstack/swift: Replaced setting run_pause with standard interval  https://review.openstack.org/12985709:42
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925012:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873612:16
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift-specs: Updates to EC design spec  https://review.openstack.org/12519012:54
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NMGood morning guys! I missed you :)13:23
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acolesnotmyname: added you as reviewer on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128888 as an fyi13:40
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mahaticacoles, hello! this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125275/ is in merge conflict15:14
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mahaticacoles, two things to be done i guess, should rebase it on yours, again and also, i should remove my current test altogether and put a separate test like you suggested15:14
mahaticacoles, correct?15:14
mahaticacoles, remove test because this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126310/ got merged first :)15:15
acolesmahatic: yes, i think that is correct, i haven't looked in detail but unfortunately you lost the race with that other patch landing15:15
mahaticacoles, oh i wasn't directly in the race, since it got approved but was sitting on dependency patches (yours) :)15:16
acolesmahatic: so would be good for you to now add a test directly on service.py using the example test_service.py i pasted a while back15:16
acolesmahatic: yes, sorry about my patches blocking yours :(15:16
mahaticacoles, am i correct? or i could have already done something?15:16
mahaticacoles, sure15:16
mahaticacoles, ah no problem!15:17
mahaticacoles, more work, a bit more learning hopefully, so me likes :D15:17
acolesmahatic: and yes, you can delete the test you had in test_shell.py15:17
acolesmahatic: +1 for the positive attitude :D15:18
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mahaticacoles, sure. will do. I might have a couple of more questions on the test though (things i might want to double check. that's all)15:19
mahaticacoles, and also, i should just rebase on one of your patches exactly like last time, correct?15:19
acolesmahatic: sure15:19
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notmynamemahatic: you were asking me about the run_pause vs interval config setting, right? looks like joanna did just submit a patch for it16:03
mahaticnotmyname, oh. right, just checked it. Thanks for letting me know!16:05
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notmyname   I get momentarily excited when a see a software update from apple that says "Includes Swift support for both iOS and OS X projects"17:20
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zaitcevGuys. I spent a week trying to install a different storage system. It's was a nightmare.... Unless you use Ubuntu. In which case there's a mega script that does everything.18:47
zaitcevSwift is eminently more user friendly. Who knew.18:47
notmynamecool!18:48
zaitcevOddly the worst part is that their back-end uses authenticated communications which we don't have. The key management is nightmare, worst ever. None of the node daemons or utilities report what key is missing and what file or service they are querying. Good grief, I remember now folks who questioned our insecure backend.18:51
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ahaleoO so https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OSSN/OSSN-0025 impacts swift and one of the recommended mitigating actions is "switch to ceph" .. crazy openstack world!19:01
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notmynamewha..19:01
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notmynamemy favorite part there is "this will allow all tenants as well as unauthenticated users to have access to the Swift 'public' images."19:02
notmynamewhat does "public" mean?19:03
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notmynameIn Glance a public image is accessible to other users only (after a successful authentication with valid credentials); it is not accessible by anonymous downloaders.19:04
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swifterdarrellmaybe Glance shouldn't "set read ACL to '.r:*,.rlistings' for all public images."  (from the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1354512)19:07
notmynameahale: so how did that come up for you? /me is worried that someone is actively arguing about this19:07
notmynameswifterdarrell: yeah, I completely agree with clayg's comments and confusion there19:08
ahalecome up for me? how i found out about that link ?19:08
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notmynameahale: yeah19:10
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ahaleI saw it in openstack-dev list, the combination of swift and CVE looking string caught my eye19:10
notmynameah, I see that now19:11
notmynameI wonder if that's worth an email response. choose your battles and all19:12
claygwhy does my name come up!?19:12
notmynameclayg: you were being sane19:13
notmynameclayg: remember the glance "if you set images to public in swift then everyone can see them" bug?19:14
claygonly vaguely19:14
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notmynamehmm..interesting. keystone is the only place where delay_auth_decision exists. so it's not even a swift setting. it's a way for keystone to not immediately reject a request but let other middleware/app handle it (eg keystoneauth in swift)19:20
notmynameso it's needed for swift, but it's a keystone config setting19:20
morganfainbergnotmyname, that is because it's part of the keystonemiddleware19:20
morganfainbergotheriwse middleware rejects because the token doesn't make sense19:20
morganfainbergand middleware catches all requests19:20
notmynamemorganfainberg: "it" being the callback that's doing the final authz. right. I agree there, and it's necessary. all I'm saying is that the only place where the string "delay_auth_token" exists in the swift codebase is in docs about keystone19:21
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notmynamemorganfainberg: I'm frustrated that the apparent confusion over "public" has resulted in a public (there's that word again) recommendation to use ceph over swift19:23
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morganfainbergnotmyname, my only thought is RADOS is pretty damn cool, but RADOS gateway is... not my favorit. can i have swift + RADOS as a possible configuration. [it should not be *the* only configuration]19:24
morganfainbergnotmyname, if i was the ceph folks, i'd push for a way to make RADOS a backend for swift and ditch the custom rados gw completely. but i'm not them.19:24
morganfainbergnotmyname, ** this is just purely a thought i've had for a while, and doesn't reflect anything besides a mild brain-drizzle.19:25
notmynamemorganfainberg: rados does have some pretty interesting tech. but as a consistent storage system it's good for different things than what swift is good at19:25
morganfainbergnotmyname, exactly. it's a good option to deploy, but not *the only* option to deploy. and you guys have a far better API, it's like everyone could play nice but the "public" view isn't that direction19:26
morganfainbergthere are definite reasons to not use RADOS.19:26
* morganfainberg shrugs.19:26
notmynamemorganfainberg: yeah, there have been some conversations about that, and some of the enovance guys have worked on it some. but there isn't a place in either system that is an obvious "oh here's the interface"19:27
morganfainbergi think it makes too much sense to not work on finding a way to make that interface happen, and it'll likely require some changes on both sides19:27
morganfainbergbut it wouldn't be a tomorrow thing, thats for sure.19:28
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pelusetorgomatic, can you take a gander at Matthew's concurrent reads when you get a chance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117710/   Thanks19:51
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openstackgerritMahati proposed a change to openstack/python-swiftclient: Adds user friendly message when --segment-size is a non-integer  https://review.openstack.org/12527520:37
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mattoliveraumorning all21:14
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notmynameI'm about to step out for the day to go to a meetup (talking about swift, of course)21:58
notmynametomorrow I want to look at the proposed summit sessions and come up with a prioritized order of them for scheduling21:58
notmynameie int he meeting21:58
mattoliveraunotmyname: sounds like a plan :) Enjoy the talk, is this the tuesday test run ;)22:07
notmynamemorganfainberg: yeah. and thanks22:07
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vishypython-swiftclient bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+bug/138395023:45
vishywell it is actually probably a python bug but it might be useful to have a workaround23:45
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vishychmouel: ^^23:48

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