| ho | mattoliverau: Yeah, usually. but know it's expensive. If you pay it, there are some candidates. | 00:01 |
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| ho | mattoliverau: s/know/now/ | 00:01 |
| mattoliverau | ho: well, hopefullly you can find a place that your happy with | 00:03 |
| bpap_k | pick the hotel closest to Super Duper Burger | 00:04 |
| ho | mattoliverau: I booked two hotels for safety but the prices are same as pickwick so i'm thinking about which hotel do i stay... | 00:08 |
| ho | bpap_k: I checked Super Duper Burgers. Great! it has a great evaluation in tripadvisor. thanks! | 00:10 |
| bpap_k | i live in SoMa. i eat at Super Duper all the time. | 00:11 |
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| dmorita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137769/ | 00:33 |
| notmyname | dmorita: no worries. :-) | 00:33 |
| dmorita | and, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138697/ | 00:33 |
| notmyname | dmorita: ya, it looks like the reviews for this have fallen through the cracks. sorry about that. thanks for bringing them up | 00:35 |
| dmorita | Thanks :) I am happy you check those patches if the time permits. | 00:37 |
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| dmorita | clayg: are you around? | 00:40 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 00:40 |
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| clayg | hi | 00:41 |
| dmorita | Hi! Sorry for bothering you but this is also the reminder about my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136995/ . | 00:42 |
| dmorita | Your suggestion is good to me so I merged your patches. | 00:42 |
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| dmorita | So, i am happy that you check this if you have time. | 00:43 |
| clayg | right on, saw tdasilva asked you about collapsing that method - hadn't seen you'd done it already - i'm sure it'll be great now | 00:44 |
| dmorita | Yah, tdasilva gives a great suggestion and I have already reflected his commet at Patch 8. | 00:45 |
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| dmorita | s/commet/comment/ | 00:46 |
| tdasilva | dmorita: cool, I'll check it out | 00:46 |
| dmorita | tdasilva: Thanks :-D | 00:47 |
| notmyname | cschwede: you had a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144432/ (dispersion command to swift-ring-builder) earlier saying you'd be able to come back to it for a more thorough review. it needs just one more +2 and is blocking the next release. will you be able to get to it soon? | 00:47 |
| tdasilva | oops, there's a question for me on that review too... | 00:48 |
| clayg | notmyname: tdasilva also had a good question about the dispersion value for legacy rings | 00:49 |
| dmorita | tdasilva: no problem. What is your question? | 00:50 |
| tdasilva | dmorita: sorry, i'm confusing things here...I meant to say clayg wrote a comment on this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144432/ asking me a question... | 00:52 |
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| dmorita | tdasilva: OIC. OK :) | 00:52 |
| tdasilva | clayg: just posted a comment there for you, hopefully it clarifies how I was testing... | 00:57 |
| clayg | so but you built it and rebalanced with the old code - and then upgraded and ran the dispersion command - right? | 00:58 |
| clayg | tdasilva: ^ | 00:58 |
| tdasilva | yes! | 00:59 |
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| tdasilva | ok, that's the problem? | 00:59 |
| tdasilva | sorry, will try again | 00:59 |
| clayg | tdasilva: so that can be confusing, what's going on is that the dispersion value that's printed on the "default command" (just list devices) is a cached value - on purpose - to keep list fast | 00:59 |
| clayg | tdasilva: the cheat in the code is that when you run the dispersion command on a ring that didn't get rebalanced to build the disperstion graph it'll go ahead and build it on the fly, but it can't cache it because it doesn't write_ring | 01:00 |
| tdasilva | IC | 01:01 |
| tdasilva | clayg: so on the "default command" you don't build it on the fly to keep it fast | 01:01 |
| tdasilva | ? | 01:01 |
| clayg | i'm calling `swift-ring-builder object.builder` the default command - the list devices command - and I don't build anything there, if there's a value cached (because you rebalanced with new code) it's displayed | 01:02 |
| tdasilva | clayg: right, I understand | 01:02 |
| tdasilva | clayg: I understand your reasoning, but putting my "usability" hat on, I think that could still be confusing to users of the command that don't have the background info you just provided. They might run both commands and see different results, that's what I think could be confusing | 01:05 |
| clayg | tdasilva: I think you can rebalance -f to get a new ring with the dispersion_graph and the cached dispersion value | 01:05 |
| clayg | tdasilva: point taken - but it's temporary - not sure what the patch to make it better would look like exactly. | 01:06 |
| tdasilva | clayg: do we attach any versioning to the ring? would it be possible to not display the dispersion report in the default command? so users must run the dispersion command and always get the right value... | 01:07 |
| clayg | tdasilva: might be possible to tweak the deserialization code to fill in a default of None for the dispersion attribute and then tweek the list command to not display it unless it's a float | 01:07 |
| clayg | so instead of getting two different values you just get nothing - probably better | 01:08 |
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| tdasilva | clayg: just my 2 cents, don't want to make a big deal out of it | 01:08 |
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| clayg | tdasilva: I think I could probably fix it, I'll push up a follow up later tonight and squash it if anyone has anything else on #144432 | 01:11 |
| clayg | tdasilva: thanks! | 01:11 |
| tdasilva | clayg: no problem, thank you! | 01:13 |
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| bpap | I wrote a simple python script to insert 100,000 objects into a container. the script finishes without error. however "swift stat test" reports only 99,212 objects inserted. here is my script and logs: https://gist.github.com/bpapantonio/bfdf2a100dd06f6a9f1f | 01:39 |
| bpap | any thoughts on why there are missing objects? | 01:40 |
| torgomatic | bpap: delayed container updates, most likely. can you GET every object that you PUT? | 01:41 |
| bpap | vagrant@saio:~$ swift list test | wc -l | 01:42 |
| bpap | 99212 | 01:42 |
| bpap | i didn't try manually downloading objects since i don't know which ones failed. | 01:43 |
| bpap | is there some setting where delayed container updates can be disabled? | 01:44 |
| mattoliverau | bpap: like torgomatic mentiioned, the continer updates may be delayed, meaning the objects are there, but haven't been updated in the continer database yet | 01:44 |
| torgomatic | bpap: no, but if you're running a SAIO, make sure the object updater is running, otherwise they'll be delayed forever | 01:44 |
| mattoliverau | bpap: so if you put returned a success, they should be there. | 01:44 |
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| bpap | Oh, I restarted all the swift processes and now the object count is increasing. it's at 100,000 now. | 01:49 |
| bpap | I guess it crashed? (low memory VM) | 01:49 |
| bpap | well anyway, good to know swift does not lose data :) thanks all | 01:50 |
| notmyname | bpap: check out swift-recon to get the async pending count. I'm guessing it's non-zero | 01:50 |
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| tdasilva | bpap: if you are running SAIO, it is possible you just started the services by running: startmain, which basically just runs 'swift-init main start' so the object-updater was not running. To start everything you can run: swift-init all start' | 01:58 |
| bpap | ==> default: INFO: execute[startmain] ran successfully | 02:00 |
| bpap | ==> default: INFO: Chef Run complete in 382.087337 seconds | 02:00 |
| bpap | you may be correct | 02:00 |
| bpap | i'm brand new to swift. just trying to get my feet wet. | 02:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 02:24 |
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| ho | i got an error from dsvm-functional. the error is related to a module which I added to test-requirements.txt.(http://logs.openstack.org/30/149930/4/check/check-swift-dsvm-functional/de3fdb5/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz) Does anyone know how to solve this? | 04:48 |
| ho | 2015-01-26 11:44:30.196 | ImportError: No module named oslo_policy.policy | 04:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Enable Object Replicator's failure count in recon https://review.openstack.org/138342 | 05:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Prashanth Pai proposed openstack/swift: Skip nodes that does not support REPLICATE verb https://review.openstack.org/149315 | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Donagh McCabe proposed openstack/swift-specs: Minor updates to composite token spec https://review.openstack.org/138771 | 12:58 |
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| cschwede | notmyname: done, added my +2. sorry for the delay, was busy with travelling… will doe some more reviews this week | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Add dispersion command to swift-ring-builder https://review.openstack.org/144432 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 16:24 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:45 |
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| notmyname | brb while I restart to fix https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8953545 | 17:00 |
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| notmyname | hello again | 17:02 |
| swifterdarrell | GOOD morning! | 17:08 |
| swifterdarrell | notmyname: alpha_ori: around? | 17:08 |
| notmyname | here | 17:08 |
| swifterdarrell | notmyname: patched/rebooted any prod servers yet? | 17:08 |
| notmyname | swifterdarrell: hydrogen. but you probably mean to be in the swiftstack channel ;-) | 17:08 |
| swifterdarrell | goodness, I did! | 17:09 |
| swifterdarrell | ;) | 17:09 |
| alpha_ori | swifterdarrell: here | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Set bogus ST_ env variables in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/150494 | 17:11 |
| swifterdarrell | alpha_ori: (sorry was in wrong channel) | 17:11 |
| acoles | clayg: is this crazy? https://review.openstack.org/150494 | 17:12 |
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| gvernik | can someone explain me what does object POST method does for the case when object_post_as_copy is true? I thought that flag is used for container sync only, but seems if this flag is set on - than Swift does object copy for every POST object request? | 17:22 |
| gvernik | i am referring /proxy/controllers/obj, method POST | 17:23 |
| notmyname | gvernik: yup | 17:24 |
| notmyname | you're right | 17:24 |
| gvernik | notmyname,: so if this flag is on - than POST object = COPY object? | 17:24 |
| notmyname | gvernik: correct | 17:25 |
| clayg | tdasilva: dude, i was totaly sitting down to fix that uncached dispersion value on pre-dispersion builders when I saw it was merged | 17:25 |
| notmyname | gvernik: note that if you turn it off (ie move to fast-copies), then you'll no longer be able to update the content-type of an object with POST. | 17:26 |
| notmyname | err...fast-POST | 17:26 |
| notmyname | gvernik: but acoles has been working on that so we can have fast-POST and also update all of the metadata | 17:26 |
| gvernik | notmyname,: ohhh....i didn't knew that. I thought POST object will only replace it's metadata and that's it... | 17:27 |
| gvernik | notmyname,: i got some weird complain that POST for large objects takes too long and i explained that it only updates metadata....now i see that i was wrong | 17:28 |
| acoles | gvernik: object_post_as_copy is true by default | 17:28 |
| notmyname | ya. by default it does take a long time because it copies the entire contents | 17:29 |
| clayg | man it is awesome to be involved with an opensource project that has an active irc channel - all the time I'm working on some project and like I'm like patching or trying to dig into some bug - i'll jump on irc and crickets... | 17:29 |
| clayg | i generally leave the channel open a few days to see how active it is timezones whatever - every so often you'll find a project where people pop in and out | 17:30 |
| clayg | notmyname: i'm going to try and fix up the dispersion value on pre-dispersion builders per tdasilva and address torgomatic's very rational -1 on the set_overload patch - but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145970/ should still be ready and I could really use it in our next release | 17:31 |
| gvernik | acoles,: what is the patch you working on related fast-POST ? | 17:32 |
| acoles | gvernik: the spec is here and there's some wip patches linked from the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102592/ | 17:33 |
| notmyname | clayg: ok, and the "ignore empty tier" patch should be in the release too, right? | 17:33 |
| notmyname | (I can't see why it would be left out) | 17:34 |
| acoles | gvernik: the goal is to be able to update content-type when using fast-POST and still have container-sync work | 17:34 |
| gvernik | notmyname,: so this one http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-object-storage/1.0/content/update-object-metadata.html suppose to say that POST will result in object copy ? i don't think it's documented somewhere what i just have learned | 17:34 |
| gvernik | acoles,: thanks. i will check this patch | 17:35 |
| notmyname | gvernik: that page is managed by the docs team, but there's a link at the bottom to file a bug for that page | 17:35 |
| clayg | notmyname: I would miss it a lot - but only because we often have rings with zero weight devices and still want to report dispersion, operationally I'm not sure how common it would be for others to have an entire tier of zero weight devices | 17:36 |
| notmyname | I really like that feature they have. a link on a doc that allows you to file a bug for that page | 17:36 |
| gvernik | notmyname,: got it :) thanks.... | 17:36 |
| clayg | notmyname: probably comes up more on toy clusters with 3 servers or whatever | 17:36 |
| notmyname | clayg: seeing as we're not the only ones who see the issues that caused this set of changes anyway, I'd expect that we're not the only ones with those kind of clusters | 17:36 |
| clayg | acoles: RE: setting ST_ in tox.ini - did it help? Did you find bad tests? Or was it just like with that change the other test would have failed on the gate? | 17:40 |
| clayg | acoles: it's tricky right, cause the point is we want the tests to pass if they're set or not and I feel like if I run tests with python -m testtools.run some.TestName.test_something - it probably won't get the tox.ini vars? | 17:41 |
| clayg | acoles: i'm all for anything that helps, i'm pretty made at the python swiftclient test suite of late | 17:41 |
| acoles | clayg: it didn't find any other failing tests apart from the one you just fixed, but my thinking was to get the jenkins job to fail if any patch doesn't mock the environ. | 17:42 |
| acoles | clayg: so anything that passes jenkins job should also pass with python -m testtools.run etc... | 17:44 |
| clayg | acoles: so you think setting those env vars to those values would cause tests to fail if they didn't patch the environment? like they could just not patch the environment and leave those values set still end up coding to some expectation that would change if a *different* env var was set, or the UUT's behavior changes if you run the test w/o forcing the tox.ini env vars? | 17:46 |
| acoles | clayg: hmmm, yeah i guess a test could rely on those bogus values being in the env, and then fail when run outside of tox :( | 17:50 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit and Zuul will be offline for a few minutes for a security update | 17:54 | |
| clayg | acoles: maybe in like test/unit/__init__.py or somewhere really close to the top you could os.environ = {} # eat that suckers! | 17:56 |
| acoles | clayg: would be nice to find some way to not keep stumbling across this | 18:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: don't print cached dispersion if it's a lie https://review.openstack.org/150531 | 18:21 |
| clayg | ^ for thiago | 18:21 |
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| clayg | i don't think i really get how ghost is a remote vulnerability - i guess if some daemon is taking userinput and feeding it to gethostbyname - did the report say they found some mail server that did this? Anyhting else scary like nginx or ssh? | 18:40 |
| notmyname | clayg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8954317 | 18:40 |
| notmyname | there's an exploit there | 18:40 |
| notmyname | basically, if your program calls gethostbyname() with client-supplied input (ie an IP address), then it can be exploited | 18:41 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah well there was a bunch of other crap in there I didn't care about - i saw "full-fledged remote exploit against the Exim mail server | 18:41 |
| clayg | " - but couldn't find the details in there | 18:41 |
| clayg | more to the point - I don't run Exim - so i was asking if anyone knows of some of some system that acctually does this | 18:42 |
| notmyname | what is "this"? | 18:43 |
| notmyname | call gethostbyname()? | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Allow set_overload to take value as percent https://review.openstack.org/145970 | 19:04 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah call gethostbyname with user supplied input? | 19:04 |
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| clayg | torgomatic: can you see if I beat most of the stupid out of my set_overload patch? Or where you down on thinking about overload as a percentage of extra weight to give to a device in general? | 19:08 |
| torgomatic | clayg: I'll take a look as soon as my computer is done with its security updates and becomes usable again. | 19:19 |
| clayg | ok | 19:20 |
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| jrichli | is there a preferred tool I could use to present some design ideas by drawing or providing graphics? this would be for discussion rather than review. | 21:02 |
| clayg | wait what channel am i in | 21:04 |
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| portante | Immutability ... this changes everything ... http://www.cidrdb.org/cidr2015/Papers/CIDR15_Paper16.pdf | 21:15 |
| portante | :) | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | clever | 21:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Exclude empty tiers from max_replicas https://review.openstack.org/147743 | 21:22 |
| portante | in boston we might say, "clevah" | 21:25 |
| notmyname | wickhed smaht | 21:25 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:30 |
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| tdasilva | portante: get much snow in westford? | 22:34 |
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| notmyname | clayg: torgomatic: I'm merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150531/1 | 22:56 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145970/ is the one I think that's outstanding for cutting the release | 22:57 |
| clayg | tdasilva: well how do you like that - notmyname's bout bout the getter' done | 22:57 |
| notmyname | plan for cutting the swift 2.2.2 release is to do it as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145970/ lands and then have a final release next week | 22:57 |
| notmyname | hopefully swift 2.2.2 on 2/2 ;-) | 22:57 |
| tdasilva | clayg: cool..didn't see that before..testing now... | 22:59 |
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| mattoliverau | lol, 2.2.2 on 2/2! Stop all other work and lets get it done :P | 23:01 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: the nice thing is that 2/2 works for both you and me | 23:01 |
| notmyname | (as opposed to the date "2/3") | 23:02 |
| mattoliverau | yeah I know, it sounds like an actual date :P | 23:02 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: 2/3 the 2nd of march! | 23:03 |
| notmyname | which is Texas Independence Day, by the way | 23:03 |
| mattoliverau | oh really, well there you go | 23:04 |
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| clayg | dorks | 23:06 |
| mattoliverau | yup, and proud of it ;) | 23:08 |
| tdasilva | lol | 23:08 |
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| notmyname | do we have any docs anywhere on sysmeta? | 23:33 |
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| notmyname | ah. there. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_middleware.html#sysmeta | 23:34 |
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| ho | good morning! | 23:56 |
| notmyname | hello! | 23:56 |
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| mattoliverau | ho: Good morning | 23:59 |
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