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| notmyname | ho: hi | 00:06 |
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| jamielennox | is there a reason that swift doesn't use oslo.config? | 01:37 |
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| torgomatic | jamielennox: numerous ones; is there a particular thing you're looking for? | 01:42 |
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| jamielennox | torgomatic: so swift is broken in devstack and i'm fixing that | 01:43 |
| jamielennox | the reason is that we had pushed all the services to configure auth_token middleware via oslo.config | 01:43 |
| jamielennox | and swift is simply ignoring all those options because it doesn't use it | 01:44 |
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| torgomatic | jamielennox: so you're adding the configuration options to Swift's configs? | 01:47 |
| jamielennox | torgomatic: not really, we're registering those options against auth_token middleware from keystonemiddleware | 01:50 |
| jamielennox | by configuring auth_token middleware via the paste options you're essentially providing an override of what is supposed to be sent via oslo.config | 01:51 |
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| jamielennox | however all these changes that are happening in auth_token middleware aren't going to work with swift because they are just ignored | 01:52 |
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| torgomatic | right; the devstack scripts have to place the options into the proxy server's conf file so that they get plumbed through to auth_token | 01:53 |
| jamielennox | torgomatic: yep - so every other service you configure under the [keystone_authtoken] section of a config file | 01:54 |
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| torgomatic | so the section name changes from [keystone_authtoken] to [filter:authtoken] or something like that? | 01:55 |
| jamielennox | torgomatic: it changes how the options are passed | 01:55 |
| jamielennox | options in [filter:authtoken] are handled via paste, options in [keystone_authtoken] are handled via olso.config | 01:56 |
| jamielennox | there is no support for newer features of keystonemiddleware via paste | 01:56 |
| torgomatic | jamielennox: is that intentional, or an oversight? | 01:58 |
| jamielennox | there were some technical problems that made it hard to support both, the keystone team has always told people to configure via [keystone_authtoken] and as far as we knew everyone used oslo.config anyway | 01:59 |
| jamielennox | so we decided to just drop support for new options from paste | 02:01 |
| torgomatic | jamielennox: that's unfortunate; what's keystone's plan for retaining Swift support, then? or rather, for letting Swift clusters use the new authtoken options? | 02:02 |
| jamielennox | torgomatic: well this is the first that i've (or as far as i know keystone) have heard of any of the openstack projects not using oslo.config | 02:03 |
| jamielennox | which is why i was wondering why swift didn't | 02:03 |
| torgomatic | jamielennox: well, it never has; it's been pastedeploy from the beginning, and that's worked until now | 02:05 |
| torgomatic | plus changing config formats would make upgrading significantly harder, and we really try to keep upgrades as easy as possible | 02:06 |
| jamielennox | so it's entirely paste deploy? everything configured via pipeline rather than parsing the ini? | 02:07 |
| torgomatic | for the HTTP-serving daemons, I believe that's correct | 02:08 |
| torgomatic | proxy, account, container, and object servers | 02:08 |
| torgomatic | the replicators and such use ConfigParser, since there's no sense in them using paste; the format is the same, but they get their own sections | 02:09 |
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| jamielennox | so in there case i would entirely see the point in using oslo.config instead of ConfigParser - but that doesn't help me as they won't use auth_token middleware anyway | 02:11 |
| torgomatic | indeed | 02:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/swift: Check for existence of swift servers binaries. https://review.openstack.org/91753 | 02:29 |
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| ho | donagh: acoles: is there any problem for asking the spec. (not code review) for the pach in the gerrit? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137086/) | 08:39 |
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| ho | donagh: acoles: or should i put on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138771/ . but my questions are not out of scope ot this. | 09:10 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: yeah, come the summer we may overlap. or I could get out of bed earlier ;) | 09:40 |
| acoles | ho: not sure i understand your question, but it is probably best have discussion on the code review at this point i.e 137086 | 09:44 |
| ho | acoles: thanks! I will put my questions on it. | 09:46 |
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| ho | I should learn how to write comments on gerrit within the frame.(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137086/) Does anyone have info for this? | 10:00 |
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| BobBall | jamielennox|away: Thanks so much | 11:14 |
| BobBall | I've just had a result from the xenserver CI that confirms it's all working again | 11:15 |
| BobBall | jamielennox|away: Now I just need to persuade ppl to merge it ASAP :) | 11:15 |
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| Anayag | Hi, I am new to Swift arachitecture, Could anyone explain me how the swift clients select the proxy? | 12:18 |
| Anayag | Is it random or for a session is it the same proxy? | 12:19 |
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| ahale | normally you would put your proxies behind an https loadbalancer, doesnt need to keep any stickyness or state, each req can hit a random proxy in most swift setups | 12:24 |
| ho | Have a nice weekend! | 12:28 |
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| Anayag | Thanks | 12:30 |
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| Anayag | and further more is there any way so we can maintain the statein the client | 12:31 |
| Anayag | so that it can connect to the same proxy? | 12:31 |
| ahale | I guess you could make it sticky at your lbs if you needed that yeah | 12:35 |
| ahale | the client shouldnt ever really need to know anything about the architecture its talking to though | 12:36 |
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| Anayag | Thanks a lot | 12:58 |
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| jyoti-ranjan | I do have one qestion related to usage of swift for cinder backup driver. | 13:18 |
| jyoti-ranjan | can I use swift which is not part of my cloud to configure it as a backup driver in my cloud? | 13:18 |
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| jordanP | jyoti-ranjan, I don't thing that is possible, but you might want to ask in #openstack-cinder | 13:23 |
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| BAKfr | Hi. Could anyone tell me if a Swift instance can emit notifications when an object in a container is modified ? | 14:41 |
| BAKfr | Ideally with a pub-sub system, but anything who can tell me when a container is modified is good. | 14:43 |
| glange | would container listings work? | 14:45 |
| glange | or heading the object? | 14:45 |
| BAKfr | well, I would know immediately when an object is modified, | 14:47 |
| glange | nothing like that exists right now as far as I know | 14:48 |
| glange | maybe somebody could write middleware for that | 14:48 |
| rledisez | middleware that send data to zaqar (ex marconi) would be nice. i'm also interrested in a feature like that | 14:50 |
| BAKfr | thanks for your responses. | 14:57 |
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| BAKfr | A middleware would be fine. I've not the time to develop it (and neither the knowledge) now, but I'll think about it. | 15:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: versioned writes middleware https://review.openstack.org/134347 | 16:45 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 16:54 |
| notmyname | glange: BAKfr: rledisez: there's a sample webhook middleware in the docs http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_middleware.html | 16:56 |
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| glange | and bob's your uncle :) | 16:57 |
| rledisez | notmyname: thx for that. i'm getting pretty used to middleware, it's all about time ;) | 16:59 |
| notmyname | :-) | 16:59 |
| notmyname | turns out I'm in the middle of talking about similar functionality with a swiftstack customer. if possible and if it's generally applicable, I'll definitely want to make it public | 17:00 |
| rledisez | sure, we are interested in this functionnality and if we could help (dev or test), we would be happy to do it. we are thinking of using zaqar to consume the events | 17:01 |
| rledisez | i'm just worried about perf, maybe having a rabbit between proxy and zaqar would be better | 17:02 |
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| notmyname | can some people take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137659/ today, please? There are some prod cluster(s) that are blocked on it right now, and they'd like to see it land/reviewed | 17:16 |
| BAKfr | rledisez, what about using oslo.messaging? it's appropriate for what we want, right? | 17:25 |
| notmyname | BAKfr: depends on your requirements. just make sure you are ok with losing messages if you're using non-durable queues | 17:26 |
| rledisez | BAKfr: oslo.messaging is used in ceilometer i think, it works pretty well | 17:29 |
| rledisez | actually, the ceilometer middleware do what we are talking about, it send a message on upload/download and give the path and method | 17:29 |
| rledisez | maybe it's enought, depending on your need | 17:29 |
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| mahatic | notmyname, hello, good morning | 17:35 |
| BAKfr | it could be. I'll read some docs about ceilometer. thanks you. | 17:36 |
| notmyname | mahatic: hello | 17:37 |
| rledisez | BAKfr: the middleware is pretty easy to install and it send to a rabbitmq (persistent). feel free to ask if you need some info, i'm here almost everyday (french time ;)) | 17:37 |
| notmyname | rledisez: you're the author of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137659/ ? | 17:38 |
| rledisez | notmyname: yes | 17:38 |
| mahatic | notmyname, I have created a test file and wrote down code to test base_storage_server.py, but it's not getting included into the unittests script. i.e when I run the script the tests are not executed | 17:38 |
| notmyname | yay. face (irc nick) to name! | 17:38 |
| mahatic | http://paste.openstack.org/show/164249/ -> this is what the start of the file looks like | 17:38 |
| notmyname | mahatic: looking | 17:38 |
| mahatic | okay | 17:38 |
| notmyname | mahatic: that looks normal | 17:39 |
| notmyname | mahatic: you have test_*() methods in that class? | 17:39 |
| notmyname | rledisez: I added it to the priority reviews page and hope some people will be able to look at it today ( acoles_away, torgomatic, glange, dfg_ ) | 17:40 |
| mahatic | notmyname, okay, I'm not even telling you what the mistake is :-\ | 17:41 |
| mahatic | I didn't put it in the right folder | 17:41 |
| notmyname | mahatic: lol | 17:41 |
| notmyname | is bob ball in here? | 17:42 |
| rledisez | notmyname: ok, thx :) | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Saeed Ghanbari proposed openstack/swift-specs: Swift Hybrid Container Spec https://review.openstack.org/151728 | 18:20 |
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| clayg | so what's the deal with keystone - it sounds terrible | 19:17 |
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| mahatic | notmyname, with the current implementation of swift/common/base_storage_server.py, testing OPTIONS directly will always throw NotImplementedError | 19:37 |
| notmyname | mahatic: you should test that. another test could create a subclass and test that it works. or mock out the server_type in the test | 19:38 |
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| mahatic | notmyname, and allowed_methods also throws that error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/164273/ | 19:41 |
| mahatic | notmyname, Currently for testing allowed_methods, i'm passing up that NotImplementedError exception. Will it be fine? | 19:42 |
| notmyname | mahatic: hmm.. | 19:44 |
| mahatic | notmyname, do you want to see what I have right now? Do i push the code? | 19:44 |
| notmyname | I want to look at that a little more, but I've got to go meet my wife for lunch right now | 19:44 |
| notmyname | mahatic: ya, you can push code. but set it to WIP if it's not done yet | 19:45 |
| mahatic | sure, I'll push it for review | 19:45 |
| notmyname | I'll take a look when i get back | 19:45 |
| mahatic | okay | 19:45 |
| mahatic | have a good lunch! | 19:46 |
| notmyname | thanks :-) | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati proposed openstack/swift: Tests for the base class of storage nodes https://review.openstack.org/151755 | 20:12 |
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| egon | Is this the right place to ask about the swiftsync project? | 21:07 |
| egon | Specifically: https://github.com/stackforge/swiftsync | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | egon: looks like you might be able to find some of its authors in here | 21:10 |
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| egon | notmyname: Ahh, I see that now.. thanks! | 21:32 |
| egon | I have a feature add that I'd like someone to look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144701/ | 21:34 |
| egon | It adds an option to work backwards through the list of containers. | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | egon: we've talked about adding reversed listings to swift for a while. mattoliverau has a patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120709/ | 21:49 |
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| egon | notmyname: that would be great for swift directly too. | 23:00 |
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| notmyname | egon: ya, I think so too | 23:32 |
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| egon | notmyname: This swiftsync feature lets it run backwards through containers. And I want to add some more features to let you run N workers, because it's not fast enough even with one forward, one reverse. | 23:50 |
| notmyname | cool | 23:50 |
| notmyname | egon: I'm just a cheerleader for what you're doing :-) | 23:50 |
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