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| hrou | Interesting ! Technically reads should be no slower (unlike writes that may need to read + write if there's overlapping content) so it may come down to how fragmented the data is. | 00:04 |
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| hrou | btw, in case you didn't see it, this is a benchmark of the seagate 8tb smr: http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_archive_hdd_review_8tb | 00:05 |
| notmyname | hrou: thanks | 00:08 |
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| notmyname | hrou: actually, on a disk that has had a lot of concurrent writes, SMR drives are likely to be much slower on reads. sequential LBAs won't be sequential physically, so that results in a lot of seeks | 00:10 |
| notmyname | I suspect my 4k reads are fast because that can always be served with a single seek. like I said, next up is larger objects | 00:10 |
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| hrou | Right ! that was my 'fragmented' comment, the more concurrent workload a higher chance that'll happen; I bet you're right though, it'll be interesting with the larger objects. | 00:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: After the .durable has been written, fsync the directory. https://review.openstack.org/184113 | 01:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Make ssync_sender a better HTTP client https://review.openstack.org/195458 | 01:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Cleanup error messages in ECDiskFileWriter.commit https://review.openstack.org/199362 | 01:17 |
| clayg | ^ there let's argue about error handling there | 01:18 |
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| kota_ | hello | 01:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/89250 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 02:31 |
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| kota_ | no irc meeting tommorow (at 8th Jul UTC)? | 03:45 |
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| notmyname | kota_: right. no meeting tomorrow | 04:09 |
| notmyname | acoles: cschwede: ^ | 04:09 |
| notmyname | I don't see ho online right now | 04:09 |
| kota_ | notmyname: thanks a lot! | 04:10 |
| kota_ | notmyname: I will sleep well tomorrow morning :) | 04:11 |
| notmyname | heh ok :-) | 04:11 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197396/3 you could go ahead and +2 it then submit a 1-line follow-up patch ;-) | 04:11 |
| notmyname | if the nit is the only reason you didnt' +2 | 04:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: add domain_remap to /info https://review.openstack.org/189045 | 04:18 |
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| notmyname | kota_: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198510/3 would you like to change the commit message to fix the swift version reference? | 04:50 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: yup | 04:51 |
| kota_ | notmyname: like as "<=2.3.0"? | 04:51 |
| notmyname | kota_: you can change it in gerrit without having to download the patch. there's an edit button there | 04:51 |
| notmyname | I think <=2.2.0 is right from the bug report | 04:52 |
| kota_ | notmyname: ic | 04:52 |
| kota_ | ok | 04:52 |
| notmyname | or even "earlier versions of" is ok with me | 04:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Add CORS unit tests to base https://review.openstack.org/198510 | 04:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Charles Hsu proposed openstack/swift: Fix reconstructor stats mssage. https://review.openstack.org/195275 | 04:53 |
| kota_ | done | 04:53 |
| notmyname | kota_: thanks! | 04:53 |
| notmyname | kota_: so based on zaitcev's review and since you just changed the commit message, if you're ok with it, you can go ahead and +2/+A | 04:53 |
| kota_ | notmyname: you're welocome :) | 04:53 |
| kota_ | ok | 04:54 |
| notmyname | hmm | 04:54 |
| kota_ | what's? | 04:54 |
| notmyname | kota_: hang on :-) | 04:54 |
| kota_ | k | 04:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: Add CORS unit tests to base https://review.openstack.org/198510 | 04:55 |
| notmyname | kota_: there ;-) | 04:55 |
| MooingLemur | notmyname: Since you were talking about trying to use flash storage effectively (I think it was you), have you yet thought about a scenario where you'd use SSDs to handle all incoming PUTs to reduce latency, and then shuffle things off to rust drives later? Effectively a writeback cache. | 04:55 |
| notmyname | I made the English flow a little better and the text wrapping work | 04:55 |
| kota_ | OIC, | 04:55 |
| notmyname | kota_: ok, now you can +2/+A if you like it (based on zaitcev's previous +2 | 04:55 |
| notmyname | MooingLemur: nope! sounds interesting though. is it something you're interested in working on? | 04:56 |
| kota_ | notmyname: Thanks for giving a good expression :) | 04:56 |
| kota_ | I have to learn English more :/ | 04:56 |
| notmyname | MooingLemur: many times this is where using a filesystem really helps us. ie if we were writing to raw block devices, it would be hard to do that. but since we rely on a local FS, we can do stuff like load the FS journal/meta stuff on flash | 04:57 |
| notmyname | kota_: trust me, your English is much better than my Japanese ;-) | 04:57 |
| kota_ | notmyname: thanks ;-) | 04:58 |
| MooingLemur | notmyname: possibly... my python is about as weak as my Spanish, so I don't feel ready to contribute meaningfully yet. | 04:58 |
| notmyname | MooingLemur: so while perhaps using flash as a writeback cache is interesting, maybe using filesystem deployment options available today is a cheaper option to get largely the same benefit | 04:58 |
| MooingLemur | yeah, we're already using dm-cache here to achieve some benefit of getting metadata onto flash | 04:59 |
| notmyname | MooingLemur: lol. but like Spanish, learning python happens best when you practice. jump on in and don't be shy! ;-) | 04:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: update AUTHORS file https://review.openstack.org/198064 | 05:05 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: k, will do. Sorry been in a lunch meeting which took much longer then expected. | 05:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Fix reclaim on deleted containers https://review.openstack.org/139219 | 05:05 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: no worries. just want to see patches move out of gerrit if possible :-) | 05:06 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, good thinking, something I'll try and have in the back of my mind in future :) | 05:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Charles Hsu proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add ability to download objects to particular folder. https://review.openstack.org/160283 | 05:18 |
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| notmyname | dmorita: are you still interested in or working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138697/ ? | 05:20 |
| notmyname | cschwede: same question to you about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180893 (and if so, can you please rebase it?) | 05:22 |
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| dmorita | notmyname: Yes, I would like to continue working this patch. The status is 'waiting' for me but should I rebase or do something? | 05:26 |
| notmyname | dmorita: looks like cschwede asked for some more tests on it, and your final comment in gerrit seems to indicate you have some follow-on work to do | 05:27 |
| notmyname | ah, wait. I misread. cschwede said he himself wanted to do more tests | 05:27 |
| notmyname | dmorita: I've starred the patch, so I hope that gets others to look at it. we should also ping cschwede on it to see what he things now (if he looked any further) | 05:28 |
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| dmorita | notmyname: Thanks for paying attention to and starring it :) | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Charles Hsu proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add ability to download objects to particular folder. https://review.openstack.org/160283 | 06:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Add CORS unit tests to base https://review.openstack.org/198510 | 06:56 |
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| blair | hey all, newb here. we have a large global cluster with 6 regions. one of those has been offline for a few months during a datacentre move (they are currently sitting at weight 0 in all the rings) | 07:37 |
| blair | wondering whether we should be essentially purging all old data on their storage nodes and adding them fresh or whether we should be able to resolve all the changes over the last 6 months | 07:38 |
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| blair | particularly wondering what would happen if they have e.g. 2 copies of an account that has since been deleted from the rest of the cluster (our current policy is 3 copies) | 07:41 |
| blair | would swift decide that it was degraded and create the 3rd copy, how would it figure out the account was deleted? | 07:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondrej Novy proposed openstack/swift: Rsync port in ring file. https://review.openstack.org/192198 | 07:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ondrej Novy proposed openstack/swift: Time synchronization check in recon. https://review.openstack.org/192562 | 07:51 |
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| acoles | good morning | 08:05 |
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| acoles | notmyname: ack no meeting today | 08:05 |
| acoles | cschwede: did you see that no meeting today ^^ | 08:06 |
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| tsubic | hey guys, what is the most newb-proof and reliable distro to run Swift? | 09:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Fix tox -e py34 https://review.openstack.org/199034 | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 10:36 |
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| peluse | 45 | 11:36 |
| peluse | yeah, that's secret code for "typing in wrong window" | 11:37 |
| kota_ | lol | 11:40 |
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| peluse | kota_, hey just curious did you look into the GET client diconnected thing that you repoerted at all? | 11:44 |
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| haypo | hi. how do _you_ install liberasurecode? it looks like there is no package for Fedora :-( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208695 | 12:12 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1208695 in Package Review "Review Request: liberasurecode - Erasure Code API library written in C with pluggable backends" [Medium,Assigned] - Assigned to ppisar | 12:12 |
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| haypo | i just installed the git master branch of liberasurecode, and now pyeclib fails with "Error: Invalid arguments passed to liberasurecode_instance_create" - swift uses PyEClib 1.0.7 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | oshritf proposed openstack/swift: Fix Container Sync example https://review.openstack.org/199535 | 12:19 |
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| haypo | i installed liberasurecode v1.0.5 (git branch): same error from pyeclib :-/ | 12:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | oshritf proposed openstack/swift: SimpleClient to return response headers https://review.openstack.org/199553 | 13:01 |
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| notmyname | haypo: a few of us were talking yesterday about what to do about py3 | 13:12 |
| notmyname | haypo: I wrote down 3 options on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 13:13 |
| notmyname | blair: each replication process has a config value "reclaim_age" (defaults to 604800, or one week) | 13:16 |
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| notmyname | blair: the reclaim age should be longer than however long it takes to replace failed hardware | 13:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | janonymous proposed openstack/swift: Replace reduce and unichr , these are no longer available in py3 https://review.openstack.org/199563 | 13:18 |
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| notmyname | blair: if hardware is down for more than the reclaim age, then replication could resurrect date | 13:18 |
| notmyname | blair: eg if you have a server down with data on it, and someone sends a DELETE request for some data that lives on it, the rest of the cluster will be fine and will keep the tombstone around for reclaim_age seconds | 13:19 |
| haypo | notmyname: hi. let me see | 13:19 |
| haypo | notmyname: i fixed my patch "fix tox -e py27": pep8 & py34 now pass thanks to a hack (i'm "porting" pyeclib to python 3 in tox.ini) | 13:20 |
| notmyname | blair: but if reclaim_age has passed, the tombstone won't be there and when the failed server is brought back online with the old data, replication will see the .data file and dutifully replicate them throughout the cluster. if there aren't the tombstones, then the data will persist | 13:21 |
| haypo | notmyname: oops, the patch is called "fix tox -e py34" :-) py27 already works ;) | 13:21 |
| haypo | i just have a remaining bug on the py27 check job (LazyImporter) | 13:21 |
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| notmyname | blair: summary being, if your region has data on it and has been offline for more than reclaim_age, then you should reformat the drives and add them as new. if the region has been offline for less than reclaim_age, then you should be able to bring it online and swift will do the right thing | 13:22 |
| notmyname | blair: in your case, you say "a few months" and the devices all have zero weight. so they shouldn't have anything on them anyway. so it will be like adding a new region | 13:23 |
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| haypo | notmyname: " Option 3: Freeze the world, port everything, done. painful up front, but done all at once" that's just crazy :) | 13:27 |
| haypo | notmyname: i'm working on the option 2 ;) | 13:27 |
| janonymous | :D Let's do it .. lol | 13:27 |
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| notmyname | haypo: I like option 2, too. but one important point is that it requires being able to measure where we are and what's left | 13:28 |
| janonymous | Sounds awesome .. | 13:28 |
| haypo | janonymous: oh, hi | 13:28 |
| janonymous | hypo: Hey | 13:28 |
| haypo | notmyname: for me, the most important milestone is to have a voting py34 gate | 13:28 |
| notmyname | haypo: eg, configure the py3 test in tox.ini to check the one file that your are updating and ignore the rest | 13:28 |
| haypo | notmyname: after this milestone, we cannot go backward ;) | 13:28 |
| notmyname | right | 13:28 |
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| notmyname | haypo: so eg start with common/utils. make it pass and have the gate check just that file. blacklist all the others. then for the next patch, fix another file (eg diskfile) and include in the patch the checking in the gate | 13:29 |
| notmyname | that way, we get a green light on the check job. we can look at it and say "before it was red, now it's green" and have a better place from which to review | 13:30 |
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| haypo | notmyname: sure. i understand | 13:36 |
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| haypo | notmyname: the problem is to reach the first milestone with a working py34 check job | 13:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Fix tox -e py34 https://review.openstack.org/199034 | 13:37 |
| notmyname | haypo: isn't it possible to set up the job (ie in tox.ini) to blacklist certain files? | 13:37 |
| haypo | notmyname: ^^ ok, this new patch set should fix all check jobs (pep8, py27, py34) | 13:37 |
| haypo | notmyname: it's ready for a review ;) | 13:37 |
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| notmyname | haypo: unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time to look at this right at the moment | 13:43 |
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| notmyname | janonymous: but my first glance at it and I don't like patching a dependency in that test | 13:44 |
| notmyname | haypo: ^ sorry | 13:45 |
| onovy | hi, is there anything what can i do for review of my sent patchsets? | 13:45 |
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| janonymous | notmyname: > hypo | 13:46 |
| notmyname | haypo: and the "dnspython doesn't work in py3" is another issue. that will need to be resolved some other way that "you can't use it" | 13:46 |
| haypo | notmyname: it's ugly to patch pyeclib in tox.ini, but i wrote my pull request *3 months* ago, and pinged them many times | 13:46 |
| haypo | notmyname: you are talking about the option 3, i will not take this option :) | 13:47 |
| haypo | notmyname: someone will have to port dnspython yes, or something else should be used instead | 13:47 |
| notmyname | haypo: right, and I understand that it's frustrating. that's just my first reaction to that patch set | 13:47 |
| haypo | notmyname: if we always wait for someone else, porting swift to python 3 will no really start during this cycle | 13:48 |
| haypo | notmyname: i did my best to move things, now it's up to you (reviewers) to make a choice ;) | 13:48 |
| janonymous | dnspython might be a problem , we have to patch it or find some alternative... | 13:48 |
| notmyname | haypo: let's put aside the discussion of dependencies for the moment | 13:48 |
| notmyname | haypo: so with that patch (I see it passes py34!) you're only testing one file, right? | 13:50 |
| haypo | notmyname: right | 13:50 |
| notmyname | and that one file is not one that you're modifying in that patch | 13:50 |
| notmyname | right? | 13:52 |
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| haypo | notmyname: test/unit/common/test_exceptions.py is lready compatible with python 3, no need to modify it | 13:52 |
| haypo | notmyname: but test_exceptions.py imports many other files, i had to port these other files to py3 | 13:53 |
| janonymous | Or a Small file could be used.... is that's possible | 13:54 |
| notmyname | haypo: ok, I think I understand what you've done | 13:55 |
| notmyname | and it seems like you're on a similar path to what I was thinking | 13:56 |
| haypo | janonymous: i don't understand your sentence | 13:56 |
| notmyname | haypo: unfortuantely, I do have to take care of some other stuff now. I hope that maybe you and timburke could chat about it some today | 13:56 |
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| janonymous | hypo: instead of test/unit/common/test_exceptions.py if this includes a lot of deps, some other file could be used for test that includes low dependencies... | 13:58 |
| haypo | timburke: ping me when you are available to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199034/ | 13:59 |
| haypo | janonymous: do you have an example? | 13:59 |
| haypo | janonymous: test/unit/common/test_exceptions.py imports few files compared to most other tests | 13:59 |
| janonymous | Ohkay , if that works fine . | 14:01 |
| haypo | janonymous: see my patch, it works, and it's "quite small" in my opinion | 14:01 |
| janonymous | Ya, i saw it before.. | 14:01 |
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| janonymous | haypo: Right. | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | oshritf proposed openstack/swift: SimpleClient to return response headers https://review.openstack.org/199553 | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift-specs: See blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/swift/+spec/tempurl-container-signature https://review.openstack.org/199607 | 15:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift-specs: tempurls with a container-level scope https://review.openstack.org/199607 | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift-specs: tempurls with a container-level scope https://review.openstack.org/199607 | 15:54 |
| notmyname | reminder to everyone that there is *not* a team meeting today | 15:54 |
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| timburke | haypo: hi! i think i can work on that soon. not sure just how much help i'll be, but it can't hurt, right? | 16:45 |
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| haypo | timburke: "it can't hurt" well... my patch is quite simple, the controversal part is the sed in tox.ini | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Bartz proposed openstack/swift-specs: tempurls with a container-level scope https://review.openstack.org/199607 | 16:46 |
| haypo | timburke: all least, all tests pass on Jenkins ;) | 16:46 |
| haypo | at* least | 16:47 |
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| timburke | haypo: i mean my reviewing, rather than the patch itself :P | 16:54 |
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| haypo | timburke: ah :) tell me if you need an explanation ;) | 16:56 |
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| haypo | notmyname, timburke : cool, jenkins confirmed that all tests (including py34) now pass for my "Fix tox -e py34" patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199034/ | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: fix api overview document https://review.openstack.org/196545 | 19:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Reduce memory usage for download/delete and add --no-shuffle option to st_download https://review.openstack.org/130339 | 20:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Replace xrange() with six.moves.range() https://review.openstack.org/198102 | 20:19 |
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| MooingLemur | no meeting this week? | 21:03 |
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| pgbridge | nope | 21:03 |
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| hrou | Hey All, wondering what anyone's thoughts are on this: I've been playing around with ACL using the swift client, and the one thing that wasn't clear to me from reading the docs and the various tutorials online is: When ACL (e.g. read perm) for container X in account Y is granted to user blah in account Z you need to use the --os--storage-url when trying to access the container from account Z. For namespacing reasons its clear | 21:44 |
| hrou | something like this is required but I wonder if it could be better documented somewhere ? Or is it and I'm just not seeing it: ) | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: versioned writes middleware https://review.openstack.org/134347 | 22:18 |
| tdasilva | clayg: ^ check it out when you have a chance | 22:19 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 22:24 |
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| dhellmann | notmyname: is there a "swift-private" launchpad group? I keep seeing errors from the release scripts that are trying to close bugs and the error message mentions that name as a group or person | 22:54 |
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| notmyname | hello, everyone | 22:58 |
| notmyname | I'm done with jury duty. didn't have to serve, but I'm credited for the next year | 22:58 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: nope. no idea what that is | 22:59 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: however, from the name, I'd assume I shouldn't know. after all, it says "private" ;-) | 22:59 |
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| dhellmann | notmyname: :-) | 23:11 |
| dhellmann | thanks, I'm taking stabs in the dark at this point | 23:12 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: so if I actually go to https://launchpad.net/~swift-private/ I get it to load and it says "swift team" and "this page is private" | 23:13 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: I get a 404 | 23:13 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: well you aren't a member! | 23:13 |
| dhellmann | indeed | 23:13 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: monty is, though | 23:13 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: there are 34 members | 23:13 |
| notmyname | I don't see any rhyme to them, other than all added in july 2010 | 23:14 |
| dhellmann | my guess is there's some notification subscription for that team that is being triggered, causing an error when I make a change to a bug for which that team should be notified, because I can't see the members of the team to notify them... | 23:14 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: hmm | 23:14 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: it doesn't have any related projects | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | I got the error on https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177924 | 23:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1177924 in Trove "Use testr instead of nose as the unittest runner." [Low,Triaged] | 23:15 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: or code or bugs or blueprints or translations or answers | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | curiouser and curiouser | 23:15 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: if the group isn't used for anything, I wonder if it's safe to delete it? I assumed, with that name, it was used for security bugs or something | 23:16 |
| torgomatic | probably not; I see security bugs but I wasn't in that group in 2010 (I wasn't even working on Swift then) | 23:17 |
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| notmyname | security is handled by swift-core-security I think | 23:21 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: let's put it this way. Rick Clark is one of the adminitrators for that group ;-) | 23:22 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: well, then | 23:23 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: is "openstack administrators" an administrator? | 23:23 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: nope | 23:24 |
| notmyname | I think it's very very likely that mordred should just delete it | 23:24 |
| dhellmann | notmyname: ok, I'll talk to him about it | 23:24 |
| notmyname | hmm..basically it looks like a list of RAX employees at the time openstack started | 23:25 |
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| notmyname | for those following, mordred remembered that it was the pre-launch openstack group before things were public | 23:29 |
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| mordred | \o/ | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: Fix Container Sync example https://review.openstack.org/199535 | 23:38 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: can you glance at that again, please? ^ | 23:38 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: ah, found a missed spot? | 23:38 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: the rst copies the sample conf, so I updated the conf too | 23:39 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: I added my +2, so I'm ok with you doing a +A on it too | 23:40 |
| mordred | notmyname: swift-private is no longer subscribed to swift bugs | 23:41 |
| notmyname | mordred: thanks | 23:41 |
| notmyname | mordred: what was the link? | 23:41 |
| notmyname | mordred: swift-private was on every swift bug? | 23:41 |
| mordred | notmyname: yup | 23:42 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 23:42 |
| mordred | notmyname: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1455102/+subscriptions | 23:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455102 in python-novaclient "some test jobs broken by tox 2.0 not passing env variables" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Dague (sdague) | 23:42 |
| mordred | and then expand other subscriptions | 23:42 |
| mordred | (you won't see it now, since I deleted it) | 23:42 |
| notmyname | interesting | 23:42 |
| notmyname | how did it get added? | 23:42 |
| mordred | I'm guessing we added that subscription back in 2010 | 23:43 |
| mordred | and just nobody has noticed | 23:43 |
| notmyname | oh wow | 23:43 |
| mordred | notmyname: btw - there is no ~nova-private team | 23:44 |
| mordred | notmyname: so it's really only swift with the link all the way to the beginning | 23:45 |
| notmyname | mordred: interesting. anything with anso? or slicehost or o3/ozone? | 23:45 |
| mordred | not that I had anything to do with | 23:46 |
| mordred | I know that I set up the swift and nova private projects and teams | 23:46 |
| mordred | I do not remember deleting the nova one - but I guess that happened at some point | 23:46 |
| notmyname | mordred: here's a picture of commit history in swift. you're right there at the beginning :-) http://d.not.mn/contrib_activity_2015_07_08.png | 23:48 |
| mordred | notmyname: aw. that was today! | 23:48 |
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| mordred | I mean - 5 years ago ... no? | 23:49 |
| notmyname | mordred: oh yeah, it was! | 23:49 |
| mordred | oh - wait - no - jul 12 | 23:49 |
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| mordred | Author: Monty Taylor <mordred@inaugust.com> | 23:49 |
| mordred | Date: Mon Jul 12 18:48:07 2010 -0500 | 23:49 |
| mordred | Changed to an upstream/packaging setup instead of a native package setup. | 23:49 |
| mordred | because, you know, that's important | 23:49 |
| notmyname | mordred: I consider May 17 to be swift's birthday. the day it was put into prod | 23:51 |
| mordred | ++ | 23:52 |
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