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| kota_ | good morning | 00:04 |
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| ctennis | peluse: I'm trying to merge in the various EC fixes from master to this test cluster I have, but the two patchsets https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212187/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213147/ seem to have conflicts. | 00:05 |
| clayg | ctennis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212187 is a for sure for sure | 00:06 |
| ctennis | ok cool | 00:07 |
| peluse | one sec... | 00:07 |
| peluse | OK, I'll rebase the alt frags thing now | 00:08 |
| clayg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213147 needs to be revisited - I'm throwing my money in with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215276/ over back tracking to nodes for alt-frag-indexes as far as value - but that's somewhat based on my judgement of hitting lp bug #1469094 being pretty good | 00:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469094 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Timeout writing .durable can cause error on GET (under failure)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1469094 | 00:09 |
| clayg | peluse: FWIW i tried to rebase the alt-frag get stuff and found it somewhat devestated by acoles_ and my changes to the etag_buckets proxy path | 00:09 |
| peluse | clayg, oh boy | 00:10 |
| clayg | peluse: ctennis: did you guys *see* any duplicate frags on the nodes when you were running? | 00:10 |
| peluse | not that we know of but we didn't get that far in testing | 00:10 |
| ctennis | duplicate as in side by side in the same physical spot? | 00:10 |
| clayg | as we understand it to get doubled frags you need a) rebalance & failures or b) reconstructor bugs | 00:10 |
| clayg | where reconstructor bugs in the early days was like "pyeclib segfaults so the reconstructor isn't running for days" | 00:11 |
| ctennis | never saw two frags in the same place | 00:11 |
| clayg | ctennis: yup ts0#2.data and ts0#3.data in the same hashdir | 00:11 |
| peluse | yeah, duplicates is probably not the right word. mult frag indexes in same hash dir | 00:11 |
| ctennis | yeah, I don't know we ever got far enough to feel confident in answering that, but with what little I looked it I never saw it | 00:12 |
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| clayg | well anyway - I think backtracking to nodes for alt-frag indexes would be sweet - doing the bare minimum of not letting in two frag index for the same bucket would be a GREAT patch (let the parity nodes and buckets do it's thing) - but I'm honestly a little worried about the durable timeouts causing some issues for failure testing - or even normal benchmarking if you drive it hard enough | 00:13 |
| peluse | clayg, rebase doesn't look *that* bad... not sure I know what you mean by backtracking though | 00:14 |
| clayg | backtracking - reinserting nodes into the iter so you can make a second connection to the same node | 00:14 |
| clayg | going - back - after the train is already down the track - backtracking :P | 00:14 |
| peluse | clayg, and yeah the durable (or anywhere in the mult-phase) was behind a ton of our issues. The patch I posted just a bit ago that uses the ValueError to map to disconenct causes the proxy to try and things work after a few attempts | 00:15 |
| clayg | parse error: causes the *proxy* to *re*-try?! | 00:15 |
| peluse | well hell someone is... what's the behavior upstream of the obj server on raise ClientDisconnect supposed to be?? | 00:16 |
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| clayg | peluse: nothing that i'm aware of - i suppose if the proxy looses enough backend connctions it'll return a clean 503 to the client | 00:17 |
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| clayg | peluse: but those value errors from the object server wouldn't have effected what the proxy does i don't think - the whole point is by the time the object server blows up like that it's because the other end stopped sending bits (or quit) | 00:18 |
| clayg | peluse: it should clean up the logs nice tho! | 00:18 |
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| peluse | clayg, well I need to take a much closer look then because what I'm seeing is ssbench reporting 0 errors and a shitload of retries with that patch whereas before it would just show a shitload of errors | 00:19 |
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| clayg | FWIW I think swift-bench will retry and log some sort of ... retry ... if it gets a 503 - it might like try every request up to three times - and it counts "unable to make request after three tries" differently that "i retried a few requests here and there" | 00:19 |
| clayg | peluse: interesting! I think any retries is bad tho :'( | 00:20 |
| peluse | doesn't it spit back as a 499? | 00:20 |
| peluse | well, retries when its beacuse of a valid timeout makes a lot of sense I think | 00:20 |
| clayg | well but the client never sees that - or isn't supposed to - all of those errors are "client disconnected before I could send a status" | 00:20 |
| peluse | valid timeout meaning a ton of heavy large IO and a 10 sec timeout | 00:21 |
| peluse | something is fishy.... but it smells better than before at least :) | 00:21 |
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| clayg | peluse: fair, maybe I misunderstood "a shitload" as more than a percentage point of requests | 00:22 |
| clayg | if it's 100K requests and 25 retires it's probably just doing it's job of stressing the system | 00:22 |
| peluse | clayg, yeah its along those lines | 00:23 |
| clayg | peluse: very interesting indeed - I don't too well at accepting stuff on the sleeve tho - i'll try to work through some stuff on that ValueError path tho if it's making an observalbe different for you | 00:23 |
| peluse | clayg, I'll repro and get real numbers though and also look more into why it *appears* that there are no failures with that patch (client view) and there are without it | 00:23 |
| clayg | ... i really htought it was just a log cleanup | 00:23 |
| peluse | yeah, I'm not accepting it either. will see what's happening for real | 00:24 |
| peluse | clayg, well, that's all I thought it was too! | 00:24 |
| peluse | ..and then the magic happened :) | 00:24 |
| clayg | peluse: I also want to make sure the tooling isn't giving the wrong impression either - a retry is a filure - the client timed out or got an error and had to retry - the only difference between ss-bench retry and error is just how many times it retried before giving up | 00:25 |
| clayg | lol @ magic | 00:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: WIP: PUT/GET path for global ec cluster https://review.openstack.org/219165 | 00:30 |
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| ctennis | ok clayg peluse the rest of this week for me (aside from my REAL work) is trying to debug a few more reconstruction oddities, hopefully with all outstanding patches merged | 00:31 |
| ctennis | Currently got one I'm chasing, hoping it turns into nothing. | 00:31 |
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| peluse | ctennis, cool | 00:45 |
| peluse | ctennis, we shoudl chat tomorrow about what you're pounding on and what you should expect | 00:46 |
| ctennis | sure thing | 00:46 |
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| peluse | clayg, stil there? | 01:04 |
| clayg | peluse: nope | 01:04 |
| peluse | ha! | 01:04 |
| clayg | yeah i'm a funny guy | 01:04 |
| clayg | peluse: sup? | 01:04 |
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| peluse | so looking at the buckets patch, not sure whether you or acoles made this change but it appears that we can never hit more than ndata nodes now?? | 01:05 |
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| peluse | oh wait, that's the size of the pool. nevermind :) | 01:05 |
| clayg | peluse: ;) | 01:05 |
| peluse | I haven't had my 3rd beer yet :) | 01:05 |
| clayg | peluse: well you better get on that! | 01:06 |
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| clayg | peluse: well you better get on that! | 02:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: EC GET path: require fragments to be of same set https://review.openstack.org/212187 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: eventlet.posthook related code needn't anymore https://review.openstack.org/183896 | 08:13 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 08:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Cline proposed openstack/swift: Fixes recon bug with initially missing rings https://review.openstack.org/219617 | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Cline proposed openstack/swift: Fixes recon bug with initially missing rings https://review.openstack.org/219617 | 09:24 |
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| haypo | hi. congrats for the release 2.4 ;) | 10:09 |
| haypo | i'm back for python3! i splitted my patches for fix "tox -e py34" into smaller patches, easier to review: | 10:09 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217423/ py3: Update pbr and dnspython requirements | 10:10 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217424/ Input validation must not depend on the locale | 10:10 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217425/ Port swob to Python 3 | 10:10 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217426/ py3: Fix Python 3 issues in utils | 10:10 |
| haypo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199034/ py3: Add py34 test environment to tox | 10:10 |
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| acoles | peluse: clayg: yay etag buckets merged :) | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Test if container_sweep is executed on unmounted devices https://review.openstack.org/219639 | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Fix dispersion-reports error message https://review.openstack.org/213697 | 11:12 |
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| pbourke | hi - could anyone tell me in short how are the swift replicator processes and rsync related? | 11:23 |
| pbourke | or are they? | 11:23 |
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| ctennis | pbourke: the replicator process (when using the rsync replication method) handles contacting the remote nodes to determine if some form of replication is needed, and if so, starts rsync to actually do the replication | 11:26 |
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| ctennis | in other words, rsync does the actual data transfer, but the logic is handled by the replicator | 11:26 |
| pbourke | ctennis: that's kind of my understanding, thanks | 11:26 |
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| pbourke | ctennis: is there a reason docs seem to start rsync as a daemon then? | 11:26 |
| ctennis | well, rsync listens as a daemon on the remote side so that the rsync client can send data to it | 11:27 |
| pbourke | gotcha | 11:27 |
| ctennis | it doesn't connect over ssh like you might be used to | 11:27 |
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| peluse_ | test test test | 12:45 |
| peluse | this is also a test | 12:45 |
| acoles | peluse: this isn't :) | 12:46 |
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| peluse | trying new IRC client with my new Mac... man these things can be vastly different from one to another... | 12:47 |
| ctennis | peluse: TOO EARLY | 12:47 |
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| peluse | ctennis: its never too early :) | 12:53 |
| peluse | ctennis: which do you use? | 12:53 |
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| ctennis | I use Linkinus 2, but it hasn't seen updates in a long time and is pretty shoddy. | 12:54 |
| peluse | ctennis: was just reading about that one, trying limechat now | 12:54 |
| ctennis | I wouldn't recommend it starting new, I'm just used to it by now. | 12:54 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: just got the invite for Openstack Meetup in Boston this month and look who is speaking: http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-Boston/events/225057400 | 12:55 |
| janonymous_ | Share slides after this please :) | 12:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | janonymous proposed openstack/swift: Use six.moves.map/filter/zip inplace of itertools.izip/imap/ifilter https://review.openstack.org/203414 | 13:57 |
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| aerwin3 | Good Morning everyone. | 15:16 |
| peluse | good morning | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | janonymous proposed openstack/swift: Python 3 using builtins instead of __builtin__, rename raw_input() to input() from six.moves https://review.openstack.org/200932 | 15:27 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:49 |
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| notmyname | FYI (and i'll be raising this again in today's meeting), I'l looking at the end of this month (ie 4 weeks from today) for the next swift release. the one in the overall Liberty release | 15:56 |
| notmyname | I'd like to have all the known EC bugs closed for that. That is my focus for the next release | 15:56 |
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| notmyname | also, kota_ has raised his global EC spec for the meeting. please look at the links on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift to prepare for the discussion | 15:59 |
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| haypo | notmyname: hi. would it be possible to put python3 somewhere in your agenda? :) | 16:00 |
| haypo | by the way, does someone know if PyEClib 1.0.8 is going to be released or not? | 16:02 |
| haypo | i was tagged almost one month ago | 16:02 |
| notmyname | haypo: no for py3 | 16:03 |
| notmyname | it's not something that can be completed by the next release, so I want to prioritize those things that can be completed | 16:03 |
| haypo | notmyname: ok | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Merge branch 'master' into feature/crypto https://review.openstack.org/219775 | 16:17 |
| wbhuber | notmyname: for the next swift release (2.4), is 9/30 the last day to deliver and review EC fixes before merging in time for Liberty? | 16:17 |
| acoles | jrichli: ^^ | 16:17 |
| notmyname | wbhuber: next swift release will be either 2.4.1 or 2.5.0 (depending on what lands) | 16:17 |
| notmyname | wbhuber: but the patches need to be landed by the end of the month (to within a few days) | 16:18 |
| wbhuber | notmyname: good to know | 16:18 |
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| itlinux | quick question do we have have a wild card for swift download container *.txt example.. | 16:31 |
| itlinux | thanks | 16:31 |
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| peluse | BTW update on the EC perf cluster at Intel; all tests ran w/no EC realted issues that I tell. One test failed with a bunch of 401s on container create - started it over again last night and will check on it again in a few hrs. Running master + one pending patch 211338 | 16:42 |
| patchbot | peluse: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211338/ | 16:42 |
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| ctennis | peluse: let me know when you want to chat | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Add functional test for multi-range GET requests. https://review.openstack.org/167828 | 17:48 |
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| jrichli | acoles_: thanks! | 18:00 |
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| clayg | acoles_: thanks for the review on patch 218023 | 18:03 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218023/ | 18:03 |
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| clayg | community service annoucements: out-of-date doc strings are BUGS - in some cases one of the worst kinda because it'll only hurt your friendly neighborhood swift contributor - and if there's any one we like more than operators - it's ourselves - generally we shouldn't merge bugs if can avoid it | 18:05 |
| notmyname | I suspect that comment has a funny story behind it... | 18:06 |
| clayg | not really - just acoles_ being too nice with me being sloppy with a docstring | 18:07 |
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| clayg | I mean he could have just pushed over - but w/e | 18:07 |
| clayg | i have it checked out now | 18:07 |
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| clayg | p.s. I hate paste.openstack.org - #1 it uses drizzle #2 it's slow #3 it's raw output strips the trailing newline that you need to be able to curl ... | git apply | 18:11 |
| clayg | I try --whitespace fix I try --inaccurate-eof - but always it hates me | 18:11 |
| clayg | eventually I result to git apply copy paste body of patch hit enter ctrl-D | 18:11 |
| clayg | then I rant into irc for like 5 lines | 18:12 |
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| briancline | heh wow, my local env didn't barf the way jenkins did on my recon patch...my local env seems busted | 18:34 |
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| notmyname | all, charz has just finished setting up probe tests on the community CI cluster. so now every patch will have the probe tests run against them | 18:38 |
| notmyname | the first result can be seen at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167828/ | 18:38 |
| notmyname | thanks charz!! | 18:38 |
| charz | notmyname: np :) | 18:38 |
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| ctennis | peluse: clayg: still running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1489546 even with patch applied | 19:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489546 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "logic error in ssync_rcvr when getting EC frags from a handoff" [High,In progress] - Assigned to paul luse (paul-e-luse) | 19:27 |
| ctennis | err standby, may be user error | 19:30 |
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| ctennis | definitely user error | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Hinson proposed openstack/swift: Automatic refresh of memcache config settings https://review.openstack.org/218490 | 19:52 |
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| albertom | swift 2.4.0 ? | 20:10 |
| albertom | is this supposed to be liberty or kilo ? | 20:10 |
| ctennis | neither, swift usually has a midcycle release as well. | 20:11 |
| albertom | o.O | 20:12 |
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| albertom | so is it safe to use swift 2.4.0 with the remaining components in kilo (2015.1.1) | 20:15 |
| albertom | safe/recommended | 20:15 |
| ctennis | there's no reason it wouldn't work, it's always been backwards compatible | 20:20 |
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| * albertom will give it a try | 20:21 | |
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| eranrom | Greetings. Came to poke a clayg regarding a certain review :-) | 20:24 |
| ctennis | there's also no harm just running the kilo version if you don't need the explicit new features | 20:24 |
| albertom | ctennis: where can i find a release notes for this new 2.4.0 ? | 20:26 |
| ctennis | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cloud.openstack.devel/62959 | 20:26 |
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| notmyname | meeting in 11 minutes | 20:49 |
| notmyname | (all meetings, all day for me) | 20:49 |
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| notmyname | albertom: yeah, 2.4.0 should work fine with any other openstack components. also, we'll probably have another release in about a month | 20:50 |
| jrichli | notmyname: but this one will be the most enjoyable, right ;-) | 20:50 |
| notmyname | jrichli: let's hope :-) | 20:50 |
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| ho | good morning! | 20:53 |
| notmyname | hello ho | 20:53 |
| ho | notmyname: hi! | 20:54 |
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| kota_ | good morning | 20:56 |
| ho | kota_: morning! | 20:56 |
| kota_ | ho: morning^^ | 20:57 |
| mattoliverau | morning | 20:58 |
| ho | mattoliverau: morning! | 20:58 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time in #openstack-meeting | 20:58 |
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| notmyname | mattoliverau: looks like I'll be going to geelong | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: awesome!! \o/ | 21:01 |
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| acoles | clayg: whats this about me being too nice? | 21:04 |
| clayg | wee! | 21:05 |
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| tdasilva | charz: thanks for the probe tests work! | 21:30 |
| acoles | charz: thanks for enabling probe tests on the qa cluster | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | nice work charz! | 21:30 |
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| flwang1 | cschwede: ping | 21:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift-specs: Add global ec cluster improvement https://review.openstack.org/209447 | 21:52 |
| clayg | well that was nice | 21:53 |
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| kota_ | nice! thanks everyone for landing that! | 21:54 |
| notmyname | ahale: thanks for the review | 21:54 |
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| notmyname | ahale: (on the graphite patch) | 21:54 |
| clayg | ahale: does reviews!? that's awesome! | 21:55 |
| notmyname | he just did! | 21:55 |
| clayg | dfg_: redbo: hurricanerix: ^ see it's not so hard | 21:55 |
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| ahale | no worries, I was just remembering the pain we had when we added proxy name in some of our metrics and it all shifted up one :) | 21:55 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:55 |
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| hurricanerix | clayg: every time i look for a review, it already has so many comments on it, there isn't anything new for me to say. But I will keep looking =) | 21:58 |
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| clayg | hurricanerix: that can't be correct - there's a whole field in the dashboard for "hasn't had a review comment" | 21:59 |
| torgomatic | ahale: at least this one's purely additive, so you don't really have to rename anything | 22:00 |
| torgomatic | (which, you're right, *is* a giant pain in the rear) | 22:00 |
| bill_az_ | also, I think there may be others who attend - peluse mentioned Intel wanted to start participating | 22:01 |
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| bill_az_ | sorry - last one was meant for swift3 channel ;-( | 22:01 |
| kota_ | bill_az_: no worries | 22:01 |
| hurricanerix | clayg: I should say every time I see something I think is interesting to review, I end up having nothing to add to it. =) | 22:02 |
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| ahale | yeah torgomatic , its not the end of the world at all, just not something you'd want as a surprise :) | 22:02 |
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| torgomatic | true :) | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Fix purge for tombstone only REVERT job https://review.openstack.org/218023 | 22:07 |
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| clayg | notmyname: torgomatic: acoles_: so i'm looking at get_info for unrelated reasons and remmebering that in the process of container-tempurl fixes we had like 3 possible cleanups to get_info which were all very good - we should idk what we should do acctually - but it was useful code! | 22:10 |
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| redbo | clayg: it's hard to find things to care about! Once you skip EC and python 3, there's not much there. | 22:20 |
| clayg | concurrent gets | 22:20 |
| clayg | i didn't even have to think about that one - i'm sure there's more - do you really want me to help find you some? (I don't want to waste my time) | 22:21 |
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| redbo | I reviewed the posthook thing. It was removing code, i loved it. | 22:22 |
| clayg | nice! | 22:22 |
| notmyname | heh | 22:22 |
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| clayg | notmyname: those little gerrit bar color twiddles would have been sweet - I don't know why people were fussig about them | 22:23 |
| notmyname | clayg: I've seen that some people still have them. mostly -infra people | 22:23 |
| notmyname | dont' know how | 22:23 |
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| notmyname | encryption. container sharding. tons in the client. cluster full docs/features. slorange. metadata indexing. increase part power. fast post. container sync. reverse listings. better ring deployment. per-drive rsync. policy descriptions. utility to undelete accounts. copy with ranges. more atomic object puts. more expressive ACLs | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romain LE DISEZ proposed openstack/swift: Allows to configure the rsync modules where the replicators will send data https://review.openstack.org/192186 | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hisashi Osanai proposed openstack/swift: Add functional test for access control (PUT) with Keystone https://review.openstack.org/202411 | 22:37 |
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| clayg | OMG this patch is *so* great -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192186/3 | 22:48 |
| clayg | i feel like I joined the make a wish foundation | 22:48 |
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| notmyname | rsync per device. nice | 22:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Adds useful dispersion info from changelog https://review.openstack.org/219322 | 23:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Add functional test for multi-range GET requests. https://review.openstack.org/167828 | 23:31 |
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| clayg | OMG this is so awesome -> https://8b86aea46fb38e6450f2-0e5f4c086da474abc1df58826577db2f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/192186/16/probetests/result.html | 23:39 |
| clayg | probetests for the rsync per device setup!? it's like... why do we even need reviews anymore :P | 23:39 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 23:50 |
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| timburke | clayg: just start +2ing everything! what could go wrong? | 23:53 |
| mattoliverau | nice :) | 23:54 |
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