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| kota_ | mattoliverau: the last week before summit has begun :-) | 01:17 |
| mattoliverau | kota_: yeah! Its exciting! This time next week I'll be flying to Japan :) | 01:33 |
| kota_ | \o/ < welcome! | 01:34 |
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| mahatic | goor morning | 04:15 |
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| haypo | morning | 07:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: py3: Update pbr and dnspython requirements https://review.openstack.org/217423 | 07:18 |
| lifeless | haypo: morning | 07:20 |
| haypo | i wrote https://review.openstack.org/217423 almost two ago. is there a reason why this change is not reviewed? | 07:20 |
| haypo | oops, two months* ago | 07:20 |
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| peterlisak | Hi everyone, can someone help? I want to prioritize some swift daemons/servers to others. For example: object-server to object-reaper, beacause I need all users' request to be served in peak hours and deletion could wait. Currently I use nice/ionice command to manage this behaviour. Is there already any existing feature in swift for that? Native support in swift would be great (adding optional config param to set | 07:40 |
| peterlisak | daemon/server io scheduling class and priority by nice/ionice). I would like to discuss it before try implementing it. Thanks! | 07:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Close ECAppIter's sub-generators before propagating GeneratorExit https://review.openstack.org/231164 | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: WIP: patch for Bill https://review.openstack.org/236963 | 12:52 |
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| papercup | newbie here. :-) what's the conf parameter (and which conf file) to have account related logging get dumped in a specific log ? | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Make db_replicator usync smaller containers https://review.openstack.org/232931 | 13:24 |
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| glange | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_saio.html | 13:31 |
| glange | part of that document is about setting up logging | 13:31 |
| papercup | okay thanks | 13:32 |
| glange | swift uses syslog -- so you'll need to configure that and match it up with the log_facility config entries in the swift server configs -- grep for that in your config files | 13:33 |
| papercup | glange - makes sense, being new to python I didn't know if the logfile name is in syslog or in the conf file for account/proxy etc | 13:34 |
| papercup | *dont | 13:34 |
| papercup | syslog conf | accpunt conf | both | 13:35 |
| glange | I understand -- depending upon what you are doing, you might want to set up the swift all in one from that document -- you'll learn a lot about swift that way and you'll have something to play with and learn from at the end | 13:35 |
| glange | it's a requirement of doing dev work to set one of those up (sort of) | 13:35 |
| papercup | glange: thx for the response. I'll dig a bit into that and get back here at a later time | 13:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port get_hmac() and hash_path() to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/236998 | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Make db_replicator usync smaller containers https://review.openstack.org/232931 | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Fix missing *-replicator conf sections in deployment guide https://review.openstack.org/237013 | 14:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port swift.common.utils.Timestamp to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237015 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port FileLikeIter to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237019 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port parse_mime_headers() to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237027 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Add __next__() methods to utils iterators for py3 https://review.openstack.org/237040 | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: WIP: parse HTTP as bytes on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237042 | 15:26 |
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| haypo | oops :-) i started to port test/unit/common/test_utils.py and i expected a few lines of changes | 15:34 |
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| haypo | but in fact test_utils.py and utils.py are huge, so my change was giant :) i splitted it into... 9 patches :-p https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/swift+branch:master+topic:py3,n,z | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Adds read only middleware. https://review.openstack.org/233749 | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Make db_replicator usync smaller containers https://review.openstack.org/232931 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port swift.common.utils.Timestamp to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237015 | 17:05 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 17:12 |
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| NM | Hey guys! Does anyone know if we have a public database with infos about swift usage arround the world? It would be great to know how the world is using it :) | 17:28 |
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| notmyname | NM: not really, but I can give you some pointers | 17:36 |
| notmyname | NM: are you looking for any particular use case or industry? | 17:36 |
| NM | At first I was wondering how people usually deploy swift over ssl, since we're using nginx and moving to apache. After that I thought: "Swift has a great community! Does we know how each other is working? It would be nice if we share this info." | 17:39 |
| notmyname | :-) | 17:40 |
| notmyname | yeah, it's great when people share with the community what they are doing with swift | 17:41 |
| notmyname | here's some of our customers at swiftstack. each of them are using swift https://swiftstack.com/customers/ | 17:41 |
| notmyname | of course there's a lot of other people using swift too. | 17:42 |
| notmyname | video streaming, backups, content for mobile apps, document storage/sharing, medical imaging, data analytics, service providers | 17:43 |
| notmyname | and then there's the many many customers that those service providers have, too | 17:43 |
| redbo | NM: We use haproxy. Not nginx because it buffers PUTs to memory/disk, but I heard that might have changed recently. | 17:44 |
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| notmyname | and we use stud for SSL | 17:45 |
| tdasilva | NM: the openstack summit is also a good place to hear how community members are using swift. For example, the Vancouver videos provide some great info about different deployments | 17:46 |
| redbo | Yeah, we were using stud before haproxy got support for SSL. | 17:46 |
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| NM | (I love this community!) | 17:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Adds read only middleware. https://review.openstack.org/233749 | 17:50 |
| NM | @redbo: I also heard that change on nginx. | 17:51 |
| NM | tdasilva: Summit is our favorite conference :) This year we sent CaioBrentano and another team member :D | 17:55 |
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| tdasilva | NM: Tokyo or Vancouver? | 17:55 |
| CaioBrentano | tdasilva Vancouver! ;) | 17:56 |
| tdasilva | NM, CaioBrentano: are you guys going to Tokyo? | 17:56 |
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| CaioBrentano | tdasilva No! Tokyo is too far away for us! | 17:57 |
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| tdasilva | CaioBrentano: :( | 17:58 |
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| NM | tdasilva: And R$ (real) is not helping … | 17:59 |
| tdasilva | NM: true true | 18:00 |
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| NM | notmyname: What do you think about doing a survey with the community? Is that an option? Even better: is it a good one? | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | there's already the openstack user survey | 18:01 |
| notmyname | the hard part is (1) identifying who the deployer community is (2) getting them to share *anything* | 18:02 |
| notmyname | one of the major use cases for swift is "don't send data to a third party for storage", so people tend to not talk about that | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | also, "swift" isn't a goal for people. ie it's as important as using apache or nginx. the actual goal people have is to store stuff and do things that weren't previously possible with their old storage systems | 18:03 |
| notmyname | eg "I need to store and search 10PB of genomics data stored across multiple sites. I just can't do that with NFS" | 18:03 |
| notmyname | my point is that swift is fundamental to a storage solution, but it's not the whole story for anyone | 18:04 |
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| notmyname | so that makes it hard to go find and ask people about their swift usage | 18:04 |
| notmyname | I'd *love* to know more about who is using swift and how they are using it | 18:05 |
| notmyname | but I'm not sure another survey would do anything more than the existing openstack survey | 18:05 |
| notmyname | one idea I've heard of is having an upstream tool to report what's going on. somethign like ceph-brag https://github.com/redhat-cip/ceph-brag | 18:06 |
| CaioBrentano | notmyname An anonymous survey, asking some specific aspects about swift deploy, would be an option? | 18:06 |
| notmyname | CaioBrentano: that's what we've got with the openstack survey today | 18:07 |
| notmyname | CaioBrentano: the hard part IMO is finding the people to ask | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Adds read only middleware. https://review.openstack.org/233749 | 18:09 |
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| CaioBrentano | notmyname I bet it is the hard part! | 18:12 |
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| NM | notmyname: Do you think people who need support, most of the time, come to here (IRC) ? I was thinking if to inform it in the topic would work. Also we could inform about the survey on the Github page. (Spread the word! Let's get viral!) | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Adds read only middleware. https://review.openstack.org/233749 | 18:17 |
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| notmyname | NM: hard to say. some do, of course. many others look for commercial support and never use IRC | 18:23 |
| notmyname | NM: but I like the idea of a passive survey in the survey and README | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Adds read only middleware. https://review.openstack.org/233749 | 18:35 |
| hrou | Hey torgomatic, all - just a quick heads up that there's been really good progress on the symlink patch (functionally its mostly there) really what's needed now is some refactoring and unit tests (but ready to review otherwise). There are still some open issues on the etherpad, so if you could take a peek and chime in that'd be great. Etherpad link (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlinks) patch 232162. | 18:35 |
| patchbot | hrou: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/ - WIP: Symlink implementation. (work in progress) | 18:35 |
| clayg | haypo: I thought when you sent that thing to the ML it was like "six more patches and then swift is py3!!!" - but today there's a half-dozen more? | 18:36 |
| clayg | Does everything really still think the ad-hoc approach is better than rip the band-aid off? | 18:37 |
| torgomatic | hrou: ok, good to know. I've been ignoring it because it's WIP and changing daily, but I can certainly takea look at the etherpad | 18:37 |
| hrou | Just to add, testing wise most of that is there too, but all of it is currently all func tests, and I'm not sure that's the way to go here for everything. | 18:37 |
| hrou | torgomatic, that'd be great ! Yea if we get some direction re: some of the issues on the etherpad we can drive it even further, probably remove the WIP as well. | 18:38 |
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| vinsh | Hello swift folks. Seeing ugly things in my object server logs using EC --> http://paste.openstack.org/show/476738/ | 18:39 |
| vinsh | Wondered if these log messages ring a bell to some obvious mis-config on my end. | 18:39 |
| notmyname | vinsh: what version of swift? | 18:39 |
| vinsh | 2.4.0 ubuntu | 18:40 |
| clayg | PASTE.OPENSTACK.ORG IS UNBEARABLY SLOW! | 18:40 |
| vinsh | Yeah.. its not spectacumazing | 18:40 |
| notmyname | vinsh: I would strongly recommend using 2.5.0 if you are using EC ;-) | 18:40 |
| vinsh | Word on the street is you now swift. I'll go with that advice ;) | 18:41 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah. very slow for me too | 18:41 |
| vinsh | *know | 18:41 |
| vinsh | I wonder if ubuntu has packaged up 2.5.0 yet. what with swift being an untested technology and all that. | 18:41 |
| * vinsh snark ;) | 18:41 | |
| clayg | why do those log lines say "swift-object-server" instead of "object-reconstructor" | 18:42 |
| clayg | vinsh: can you find the other side of those Unexpected 500's -> "24.26.95.51:6003/d142/5964 Unexpected response: ":ERROR: 500 'ERROR: With :UPDATES: 1 failures to 0 successes'"" | 18:42 |
| vinsh | ?! | 18:42 |
| clayg | on :UPDATES: | 18:42 |
| clayg | on 24.26.95.51:6003 try to find the 500, or something from the object-server about an error ; grep for d142 if you have to - something around the same time | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Eran Rom proposed openstack/swift: Container-Sync to iterate only over synced containers https://review.openstack.org/205803 | 18:43 |
| vinsh | Oct 19 18:43:11 localhost swift-object-server: 24.26.95.51:6003/d142/5964 Unexpected response: ":ERROR: 500 'ERROR: With :UPDATES: 1 failures to 0 successes'" | 18:43 |
| vinsh | Oct 19 18:43:11 localhost swift-object-server: Invalid response 404 from 24.26.95.51:6003/d142/5964/KEY_256f93ddf68441ed9a80e6475a77c869/adam/openrc policy#0 frag#3 | 18:43 |
| vinsh | Oct 19 18:43:11 localhost swift-object-server: Invalid response 404 from 24.26.95.51:6003/d142/5964/KEY_256f93ddf68441ed9a80e6475a77c869/adam/openrc policy#0 frag#3 | 18:43 |
| vinsh | then on the target node | 18:45 |
| vinsh | Oct 19 18:43:11 localhost swift-object-server: 24.26.92.207 - - [19/Oct/2015:18:43:11 +0000] "GET /d142/5964/KEY_256f93ddf68441ed9a80e6475a77c869/adam/openrc" 404 - "-" "-" "-" 0.0005 "-" 17561 0 | 18:45 |
| vinsh | Oct 19 18:43:22 localhost swift-object-server: 24.26.92.206 - - [19/Oct/2015:18:43:22 +0000] "GET /d142/5964/KEY_256f93ddf68441ed9a80e6475a77c869/adam/openrc" 404 - "-" "-" "-" 0.0004 "-" 17573 0 | 18:45 |
| clayg | vinsh: I still feel like that's onlyt he object-reconstructor side just reporting the errors from the ssync target (object-server/ssync_sender) - could be one of the bugs fixed in 2.5.0 | 18:46 |
| clayg | could also be a ring part-replica placement thing (described in lp bug #1452431) | 18:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1452431 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "some parts replicas assigned to duplicate devices in the ring" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1452431 - Assigned to Samuel Merritt (torgomatic) | 18:46 |
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| vinsh | Say no more! I'll get 2.5.0 on here asap. Then test and report. | 18:46 |
| vinsh | I'm betting this has to do with the 40% retry ratio in benchmarking | 18:46 |
| clayg | vinsh: the 404's are so interesting - either they're missing or its that storage policy header bug thing just looking in the wrong policy - could you use swift-get-nodes to find the fs paths for those frag archives on those nodes and see if the data is acctually there and just not being found or if the frag archives are acctually in the wrong spot | 18:47 |
| clayg | vinsh: object-reconstrcutor was reporting some remote 500's - those would be more interesting I think? if it was back when the chunked-transfer stuff was spewing useless garbage you may not be able to find the intersting errors | 18:48 |
| clayg | so... yeah we'll see what you get after the upgrade - gl! | 18:48 |
| vinsh | Will dig in further there, thanks for the direction! | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Francis proposed openstack/swift: Symlink implementation. https://review.openstack.org/232162 | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift: swift-ring-builder can't remove a device with zero weight https://review.openstack.org/233096 | 19:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift: node_timeout as float in configs https://review.openstack.org/234287 | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift: swift-init return codes https://review.openstack.org/230352 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: swiftclient content-type header https://review.openstack.org/231354 | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift: swift-init: SIGKILL daemon after kill_wait period. https://review.openstack.org/229532 | 19:24 |
| vinsh | The crazy 500 errors have gone away with 2.5.0 | 19:28 |
| vinsh | still seeing at 40% retry rate on benchmark read tests | 19:28 |
| eranrom | My inner self told me its high time I should kindly ask cores with free time (ha ha) to review this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205803/ | 19:34 |
| eranrom | poeple who reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205803/ might also be interested in reviewing my ever WIP storylet: https://github.com/eranr/storylet | 19:35 |
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| vinsh | Oh neat! benchmark results for 2.5.0 > 2.4.0 | 19:42 |
| vinsh | good work all. | 19:42 |
| vinsh | just hit an all time high number of read/writes combined with 2.5.0 for this cluster. | 19:46 |
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| * vinsh nerding out | 19:46 | |
| notmyname | cool | 19:50 |
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| notmyname | interesting talk from pycon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Hmys8ojno | 20:27 |
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| clayg | notmyname: neat trick tho - you can't yeild out byte arrays as your return iterator to eventlet.wsgi server | 20:40 |
| clayg | sweventlet is going to be great tho | 20:41 |
| notmyname | heh | 20:42 |
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| mattoliverau | morning | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | acoles_: yes.. darn those assertEquals :P Thanks :) | 21:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bill Huber proposed openstack/swift: ObjectControllers return application errors as 499 on bad read https://review.openstack.org/236007 | 21:35 |
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