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| thebloggu | I've set up an openstack swift cluster using tempauth but I can't seem to use it since I keep getting an "Account not found" error. Am I supposed to set account_autocreate and allow_account_management to true to use it? | 10:52 |
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| ntt | Hi, what are best practises for download a large number of files from swift? Is there some kind of bulk download? (eg: using an archive....) | 14:53 |
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| glange_ | ntt: there is no bulk download -- objects in swift are "randomly" spread out across many different disks -- an arbitrary list of objects couldn't be bundled up on a single object server and served | 14:55 |
| ntt | glange_: ok, I understand.... so If I have to download a large number of objects I need a large number of http requests. Right? | 14:56 |
| glange_ | yeah | 14:56 |
| glange_ | probably with retries and error handling and stuff like that | 14:56 |
| glange_ | you wouldn't want to do it in a big batch and the whole batch fails if one download fails or something like that | 14:57 |
| glange_ | there is a bulk upload middleware that extracts objects from a tar file | 14:57 |
| glange_ | and there are large objects which combine many objects into a single large object on the fly for downloads | 14:58 |
| glange_ | but that's not what you are wanting | 14:58 |
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| glange_ | bulk downloads as a swift feature are maybe a bad idea just because a lot of work would be done all at once and a failure of one object would kill the whole thing | 14:59 |
| ntt | ok... thank you. I need to understand all aspects because my idea is to use swift in production | 15:00 |
| glange_ | eventually there will be EC -- that is sort of like a bulk download because each object is divided up into many chunks and those chunks are put together on downloads, but again not what you are looking for :) | 15:02 |
| ntt | another question: actually I have a delay in listing after a bulk upload. Is this a normal behavior? | 15:02 |
| ntt | Could I reduce this delay? | 15:02 |
| glange_ | the objects you upload aren't showing up in the container listing right away? | 15:03 |
| ntt | yes | 15:03 |
| glange_ | so, swift tries to update that listing during the object put request | 15:03 |
| ntt | yes I think | 15:04 |
| glange_ | but if that fails to one of the 3 container db's, something called an async is created and that async will update the listing once one of the backend processes gets to it | 15:04 |
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| glange_ | you can get asyncs if the cluster/container db is under a lot of load | 15:05 |
| ntt | so this could be a performance related problem | 15:05 |
| glange_ | the only thing I can think of that might reduce the delay is to shard your objects across many containers | 15:05 |
| ntt | mmm | 15:05 |
| glange_ | if you have 10,000 containers instead of 1, updates will be spread out across all those containers | 15:06 |
| ntt | ok.... but actually I have 5 tenant and 5/6 containers.... I'm trying to bulk-upload a relatively small file..... this problem is related to server performance? | 15:07 |
| glange_ | the container update portion of the object put is failing | 15:07 |
| glange_ | maybe just because of load | 15:07 |
| glange_ | or network problems or something | 15:08 |
| glange_ | maybe server performance | 15:08 |
| glange_ | uploading many small files is a lot worse than uploading one big one | 15:08 |
| glange_ | because it's one container update per file | 15:08 |
| glange_ | and small files take less time to upload which causes more container updates per unit of time | 15:09 |
| ntt | this is true also for bulk-upload? | 15:10 |
| glange_ | yeah | 15:10 |
| glange_ | each object put/delete results in container updates | 15:11 |
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| glange_ | swift is "eventually consistent" like this in numerous ways and you have to understand and accept that :) | 15:13 |
| ntt | glance_ : I have the same idea! And it is correct! But boss and customers have strange ideas.... | 15:15 |
| glange_ | we have similar customers :) | 15:16 |
| ntt | :) | 15:16 |
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