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kota_ | good morning | 00:48 |
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takashi | kota_: good morning | 00:55 |
kota_ | takashi: o/ | 00:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/swift: Ensure update of the container by object-updater https://review.openstack.org/99598 | 01:13 |
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notmyname | hello, you people on the other side of the pacific | 03:40 |
rubal | Hi, I am installing openstack swift. i have done it before successfully using tempAuth. I am trying to integrate it with keystone. While running the proxy server, i am receiving the error 99: Cannot assign requested address. How can I resolve this. Please help | 03:41 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: preso time (it is for me!) | 03:41 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: o/ | 03:41 |
notmyname | rubal: sounds like you have another process already configured on that machine to listen on whatever the "bind_port" is in the proxy server config | 03:42 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: yup, me too. almost done. Only lots of tweaking to go :) | 03:42 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: good for you. I think you're ahead of me ;-) | 03:42 |
notmyname | I've got a lot of notes and outline type things. lots to do on my actual slides though | 03:42 |
rubal | @notmyname: The bind port i am using is 8080, the default one, that i had used while using tempAuth | 03:45 |
notmyname | rubal: the big difference is that tempauth is functionality that is implemented within the swift proxy server process. keystone is a separate process entirely | 03:46 |
notmyname | (ie linux process) | 03:46 |
notmyname | so if you started keystone first and have it listening on 8080, then you'll see that error | 03:47 |
rubal | @notmyname: How shall I resolve this? I am a newbie | 03:47 |
notmyname | configure one of them to listen on a different port | 03:47 |
notmyname | or move one to a different machine (ie a different IP) | 03:47 |
notmyname | rubal: eg if you want to change swift's port, change the "bind_port" setting that's at the top of /etc/swift/proxy-server.cofn | 03:48 |
notmyname | *conf | 03:48 |
rubal | @notmyname: I'd have to change the bind ports in the ring configuration with respect to this too, right? | 03:49 |
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mattoliverau | rubal: no the proxy uses the rings, but isn't in the ring. Unless you've set the bind_port of either an account, container, object server. | 03:52 |
mattoliverau | to 8080 | 03:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Fix SLO manifest versioning https://review.openstack.org/271883 | 03:59 |
jrichli | tdasilva acoles ^^ | 04:00 |
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notmyname | mattoliverau: woooo. now I have my EC visualization slides pretty close to done. with cat pictures, of course | 04:15 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: lol, nice work! | 04:16 |
notmyname | heh. you haven't seen it yet ;-) | 04:16 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: is it offensive if I use the phrase "g'day" in my slides? | 04:17 |
notmyname | (serious) | 04:17 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: nah I don't think so. Well I wouldn't be offended. You should use Y'all all too :P | 04:19 |
notmyname | lol | 04:19 |
notmyname | g'day, y'all | 04:19 |
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mattoliverau | lol | 04:25 |
notmyname | I need to check some of my math with people in the office tomorrow | 04:36 |
notmyname | here's part of what I have | 04:36 |
notmyname | given the string "g'day" | 04:36 |
notmyname | 2) convert that to a list of numbers | 04:36 |
notmyname | [103, 39, 100, 97, 121] | 04:36 |
notmyname | that's the ascii values | 04:37 |
notmyname | 3) use those as coefficients in a polynomial | 04:37 |
notmyname | f(x) = 103x4 + 39x3 + 100x2 + 97x + 121 | 04:37 |
notmyname | so with 5 values you get a 4th order polynomial | 04:37 |
notmyname | (and here's where I'm a little fuzzy) | 04:37 |
notmyname | now you could drop any one of those and recalculate it from the other 4 | 04:38 |
notmyname | so is that right? | 04:38 |
notmyname | I feel like I'm missing a part | 04:38 |
notmyname | ah! that's it | 04:40 |
notmyname | so you compute the actual results of that polynomial m times, where m is the number of parity bits you're keeping | 04:40 |
notmyname | store all those together, and you can then lose some of them (m many) and recreate it. | 04:41 |
klrmn | notmyname: you're weird | 04:41 |
jrichli | klrmn: lol. I think its pretty interesting too, though. I still need to read that blog! This encourages me to do that in the morning :-) | 04:43 |
notmyname | so, assuming I'm right, after all this time, the math behind EC is making sense to me. it's pretty cool! | 04:45 |
notmyname | I mean, I know that in reality it's more complicated (finite fields, much bigger numbers, etc), but the basic idea is there | 04:46 |
notmyname | klrmn: you're suggesting there are better things to do on a saturday night?! ;-) | 04:47 |
notmyname | errr...sunday. I have to go to the office tomorrow | 04:47 |
jrichli | i was just gonna type that! | 04:47 |
notmyname | (but I did the same thing last night) | 04:48 |
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notmyname | ah ha! | 04:50 |
notmyname | the above isn't correct | 04:50 |
notmyname | so you get the 5 coefficients for the 4th order polynomial (chunk size 5). then you get the results 8 times (for 3 parity). then you store the 8 results. you don't store the coefficients | 04:51 |
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mattoliverau | notmyname: well derr, of course :S | 04:57 |
* mattoliverau is glad I'm not presenting the EC deep dive :P | 04:57 | |
m_kazuhiro | notmyname: Do you mean that if we have [(x_1, f(x_1)), (x_2, f(x_2)), (x_3, f(x_3)),.....,(x_8, f(x_8))] then we can recalculate any 3 pairs from other 5 pairs? | 04:57 |
notmyname | right | 04:58 |
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notmyname | this is fun, now that I think I understand it. much better than "and here it calls transform_chunk(), which does black magic..." | 05:03 |
notmyname | and the way you calculate the missing parts is with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrange_polynomial | 05:04 |
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notmyname | mattoliverau: which I'm *not* going to go in to in my talk ;-) | 05:05 |
jrichli | will this talk be recorded? | 05:05 |
notmyname | jrichli: yes. LCA is really good about that. normally they are streamed live and available about 30 seconds (slight exaggeration) after | 05:06 |
notmyname | well, at least keynotes are livestreamed. actual session talks might not be | 05:06 |
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jrichli | nice, sounds like its gonna be a good one to watch! | 05:07 |
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notmyname | needs a follow up from zackmdavis, tsg, or kgreenan entitled "so this is how it *really* works, this time from someone who know's what's going on" | 05:08 |
openstackgerrit | Bing Hu proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Support uploading to an object in swift from stdin update code and add unittest use mkstemp instead of NamedTemporaryFile, upadte unittest Closes-bug: #1521342 https://review.openstack.org/259410 | 05:08 |
openstack | bug 1521342 in python-swiftclient "support uploading from a stdin stream" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521342 - Assigned to Bing Hu (hubingsh) | 05:08 |
mahatic_ | lol | 05:08 |
mahatic_ | notmyname: are you planning to title yours as "EC 101"? ;) | 05:09 |
notmyname | lol | 05:09 |
notmyname | EC is at least a 401 class | 05:09 |
jrichli | this is better than 101! | 05:09 |
mahatic_ | heh | 05:09 |
mahatic_ | I'm all booked for Bristol, thanks acoles_ ! | 05:13 |
m_kazuhiro | notmyname: Thank you. I think you are right. | 05:16 |
notmyname | mahatic_: awesome! | 05:21 |
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mattoliverau | notmyname, jrichli: yeah I think they are live streamed (all sessions) from Wednes - Fri anyway.. At least I think that was the case in the past. | 05:23 |
mattoliverau | So slide deck is pretty big, when I submitted I thought POC #2 would be it, now there is POC #3 to talk about too :P | 05:24 |
mattoliverau | But at least I've got everything in now, touching on important areas at least. Will tweak it some more im sure in the day to come. | 05:25 |
jrichli | mattoliverau: what is your topic? | 05:26 |
mattoliverau | Now I need to leave work early cause I gotta meet the wife cause we need to head over to watch the Australian Open. I think its Tomic vs Murray :) | 05:26 |
mattoliverau | jrichli: Adventures in Container sharding. Lessons learnt and all that | 05:26 |
jrichli | cool! | 05:27 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: that's cool to hear | 05:27 |
notmyname | (streaming every session) | 05:27 |
mahatic_ | mattoliverau: australian open, are you gonna buy tickets and watch any in person? (/me jealous) | 05:30 |
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mattoliverau | mahatic_: yup, got tickets to tonights game, Domic vs Murray and Keys vs Zhang. Speaking of which gotta go :) | 05:32 |
mattoliverau | s/Domic/Tomic) | 05:32 |
mahatic_ | mattoliverau: cool! /me is more jealous! | 05:33 |
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notmyname | if anyone is looking for a good bug to solve, bug 1532008 would be very nice to solve (and it has a starting point of the fix attached to it) | 06:31 |
openstack | bug 1532008 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC policy doesn't fallocate objects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532008 | 06:31 |
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notmyname | time for bed. I'll bug everyone more in the morning ;-) | 07:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: CompositeRing Supports https://review.openstack.org/271920 | 07:51 |
kota_ | clayg, torgomatic:^^ | 07:51 |
kota_ | once we talked about composite ring idea at Austion hackathon last year, I was working on depeloping a poc code for that. | 07:52 |
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kota_ | clayg, torgomatic: and then, i found clayg talked with ho about the idea when I was checking the swift irc log in the last weekend. | 07:53 |
kota_ | clayg, torgomatic: i don't know if torgomatic has already been working on that stuff but the reason i pushed my current patch is to show my current status about Composite Ring and I'd like to make sure the consensus about it. | 07:56 |
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kota_ | clayg, torgomatic: i wonder if you could feel free to give me feedbacks (or to tell your status) for that :) | 07:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: CompositeRing Supports https://review.openstack.org/271920 | 08:58 |
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venkat | is dlo or slo object download is recursive | 10:19 |
venkat | using manifest-files as segments? | 10:19 |
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ntt | Hi, I need to change the network used by swift for communication between proxy and storage nodes. Someone can help me please? | 10:26 |
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venkat | HI all | 10:37 |
venkat | is dlo or slo object download is recursive using manifest-files as segments? | 10:37 |
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openstackgerrit | renminmin proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add quota details output for 413 Upload exceeds quota https://review.openstack.org/260887 | 11:06 |
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aparnav | Hey, I am new to swift. I am stuck with a problem, i hope someone is available to help me. | 11:58 |
aparnav | I am trying to create a swift-temp-url but the url is not accessible. wget temp-url is giving 401 unauthorized | 12:00 |
aparnav | and also Username/Password Authentication Failed. | 12:00 |
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tdasilva | good morning | 12:12 |
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deray | hi all.. I have a query. When would a swift temp url access throw me an error "Username/Password Authentication Failed"? | 12:31 |
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acoles | timburke: thanks for timegm patch. I learnt something interesting about UK timezone c. 1970 which explained why I was seeing localtime(0) == 1am with UK timezone. | 13:47 |
acoles | timburke: turns out we had a couple of winters where UK did not go to GMT. | 13:48 |
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tdasilva | acoles: just saw your comments on the review...things are getting complicated ;) | 13:58 |
tdasilva | acoles: but that's some cool facts | 13:58 |
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acoles | tdasilva: its ok, timburke is fixing everything :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271542/1 | 13:59 |
tdasilva | acoles: neat! timburke is the man | 14:00 |
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notmyname | good morning | 14:47 |
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acoles | notmyname: early start? | 15:08 |
notmyname | just checking emails, reading the news | 15:08 |
jrichli | aparnav deray: have you seen the docs http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#tempurl ? What step failed? Was it authorized for that kind of request? | 15:14 |
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jrichli | venkat: The large objects support docs say "The segments of a SLO manifest can even be other SLO manifests." so, i think the answer is yes - at least for SLO | 15:16 |
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hurricanerix | Is anybody interested in reviewing a very small change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267016/ =) | 15:47 |
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timburke | good morning | 15:58 |
pdardeau | hurricanerix: i'm reviewing it now | 16:03 |
hurricanerix | pdardeau: cool, thanks! | 16:03 |
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timburke | venkat (and jrichli may be interested as well): SLOs can reference other SLOs to a depth of around 10. SLOs can't reference DLOs (it will compare against the manifest's swift-object size of zero bytes and truncate the download), and DLOs can't reference either as i recall. maybe DLO would be able to reference SLO if SLO is after DLO in the pipeline? i thought i tried that (and it didn't work), but i can't remember the failure-mode | 16:05 |
pdardeau | hurricanerix: +1 | 16:05 |
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hurricanerix | pdardeau: yay! | 16:07 |
hurricanerix | thanks | 16:07 |
jrichli | timburke: thanks! I am interested :-) Also, I am afraid venkat is no longer online. I hadn't thought about that until after I posted a reply. (was too early in the a.m.!) | 16:08 |
openstackgerrit | Andrew Welleck proposed openstack/swift: Additional step for Debugging Issues in SAIO https://review.openstack.org/272150 | 16:09 |
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timburke | jrichli: yeah, i noticed that, too, when i couldn't tab-complete the name. still, if venkat knows about the channel-logging, maybe it will be useful? hopefully | 16:10 |
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onovy | 2.6.0 out | 16:37 |
notmyname | good morning (for real now) | 16:39 |
notmyname | onovy: yup. just got the word. I'll be sending an announce email shortly | 16:39 |
onovy | packaging... :) | 16:39 |
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notmyname | email sent to -announce. now waiting for moderation | 16:48 |
ahale | funny that there are emails saying "blah was fixed in 2.6.0 release" before release announcement comes out :) | 16:50 |
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notmyname | ahale: I'm told that since our README.md file is markdown (and not .rst), then the auto email scripts don't work so no release email goes out. | 16:54 |
notmyname | anyone up for some gratuitous rewriting of a readme file? | 16:54 |
notmyname | release announcement email is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-January/000940.html | 16:55 |
openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Add __next__() methods to utils iterators for py3 https://review.openstack.org/237040 | 16:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/swift: Port swift.common.utils.Timestamp to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/237015 | 17:06 |
haypo | torgomatic: hey. i saw that you reviewed my python 3 patches. most of they are stuck at stuck with a single +2 vote. we need a second vote or to approve them ;) | 17:10 |
haypo | torgomatic: i rebased patches which were in conflict | 17:10 |
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notmyname | haypo: thanks for keeping those alive | 17:11 |
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haypo | FYI i tried to write a single patch to port a whole unit test to py3, but it was just not possible | 17:13 |
haypo | i had to fix various kinds of issues on swift "utils" | 17:13 |
haypo | so i splitted my patch into smaller parts, easier to review | 17:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Ondřej Nový proposed openstack/swift: Fixed docs: Title underline too short https://review.openstack.org/272189 | 17:21 |
onovy | notmyname: pls ^ :) | 17:22 |
notmyname | onovy: wow. that's one of those things that would really need a backport, right? ;-) | 17:22 |
onovy | yep! | 17:23 |
onovy | and CVE | 17:23 |
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notmyname | it doesn't seem to actually be a problem in the rendered output (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/howto_installmultinode.html). just an inconsistency in the plain text version | 17:24 |
onovy | yep, it's just sphinx warning | 17:24 |
onovy | thanks | 17:25 |
notmyname | so now I've done my review-of-the-day. guess I can go home now | 17:25 |
onovy | :)))) | 17:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Don't .lower() a literal https://review.openstack.org/272192 | 17:28 |
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openstackgerrit | David Goetz proposed openstack/swift: allow bench to have insecure auth cert https://review.openstack.org/264216 | 17:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Merge branch 'master' into feature/crypto https://review.openstack.org/272201 | 17:48 |
acoles | jrichli: mahatic_ pchng jlhinson fyi ^^ | 17:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Hawkins proposed openstack/swift: _get_info_cache should encode unicode metadata https://review.openstack.org/267016 | 17:58 |
hurricanerix | torgomatic timburke: thanks for the input, went ahead and used timburke's suggestion. | 17:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: py3: Use the six module in the xprofile middleware https://review.openstack.org/233145 | 18:18 |
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pchng | acoles_: Thanks for the notice! | 18:52 |
jrichli | acoles_: thanks! | 18:56 |
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notmyname | FYI http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-January/009394.html | 19:00 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 19:04 |
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jrichli | notmyname: sounds good. let me know if I can help - like vote on the proposal or something. (i dont know what type of process may be used here) | 19:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Greg Lange proposed openstack/swift: Make replicator check for lock_device https://review.openstack.org/272236 | 19:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Hawkins proposed openstack/swift: _get_info_cache should encode unicode metadata https://review.openstack.org/267016 | 19:37 |
clayg | kota_: so exciting to see patch 271920 | 19:39 |
patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271920/ - CompositeRing Supports | 19:39 |
clayg | ^ torgomatic | 19:39 |
clayg | ^ hrou | 19:39 |
clayg | notmyname: patch 99598 is for a long open bug that is very annoying - i've stared it and would love to see it on the priority reviews! | 19:40 |
patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99598/ - Ensure update of the container by object-updater | 19:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Don't .lower() a literal https://review.openstack.org/272192 | 20:21 |
timburke | huh. that was fast. weird | 20:26 |
onovy | patch 271487 <-- anyone simple version bump? :) | 20:29 |
patchbot | onovy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271487/ - Bump eventlet min version to 0.17.4 | 20:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Additional step for Debugging Issues in SAIO https://review.openstack.org/272150 | 20:29 |
timburke | onovy: i think notmyname already got it in patch 269811 | 20:31 |
patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269811/ - Bump eventlet min version to 0.17.4 (MERGED) | 20:31 |
notmyname | that one is for swift-bench | 20:31 |
timburke | i can haz read | 20:31 |
onovy | yep, bench | 20:33 |
notmyname | onovy: why do we need that version bump? ie current eventlet is still valid in the current requirements file. is there something with swift-bench that isn't working now that is with later eventlet | 20:33 |
onovy | notmyname: i think it's good idea to have same versions for all swift parts. it's better for packaging | 20:34 |
notmyname | onovy: also, after this weekend, that won't pass anyway. the global requirements for eventlet changed and added an exclude for 0.18.0 (something in nova broke) | 20:34 |
onovy | and ipv6 is not working in old eventlet | 20:34 |
notmyname | yeah, I'm fine with it in general. I agree it's better. just maybe not essential | 20:35 |
onovy | yep, it's not essential. just make things more simple :) | 20:35 |
notmyname | you can still package that version of eventlet with swift-bench as it is today, right? | 20:36 |
onovy | in debian is 0.17.4. so everybody will use swift-bench with this evenlet (in debian) | 20:36 |
onovy | and in ubuntu too | 20:36 |
onovy | and you can't install two version of eventlet to one computer | 20:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Ring Overview updates https://review.openstack.org/244412 | 20:43 |
clayg | notmyname: patch 244412 really should have made it into the release with the ring changes :\ | 20:43 |
patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244412/ - Ring Overview updates | 20:43 |
torgomatic | well, let's cram the new eventlet in there, then, before nova's change goes and goofs it up | 20:43 |
notmyname | clayg: the good news is that the docs (like that one) are published very quickly after they land | 20:45 |
clayg | onovy: so we're discussing increasing the version of a requirement in a project that already says >= to be higher than is acctually needed? | 20:45 |
clayg | notmyname: oh yeah maybe that is fine then :) | 20:45 |
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notmyname | clayg: except that we need to land that one :-) | 20:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Make handoffs_first a more useful "mode" https://review.openstack.org/215867 | 20:46 |
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onovy | clayg: ? >= 0.9.15 -> >= 0.17.4 | 20:47 |
haypo | hey, is there someone available to review my python 3 patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:py3+project:openstack/swift+status:open | 20:50 |
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haypo | it would be nice to merge these one to be able to start to port more interesting stuff | 20:50 |
notmyname | "The 'n' was probably thrown in because of Blade Runner" ;-) | 20:51 |
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onovy | notmyname: btw: do i understand correctly, that conclusion (on swift meeting) of patch 238799 was: ionice is working + inside swift? | 20:57 |
patchbot | onovy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 20:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Optimization of the reconstructor for handling of displaced fragments https://review.openstack.org/196848 | 21:05 |
notmyname | testing. patch 271555 patch 255233 | 21:06 |
patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271555/ - releases - swift 2.6.0 release (MERGED) | 21:06 |
patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255233/ - swift (feature/hummingbird) - go: fix requests with X-If-Delete-At for objects w... | 21:06 |
timburke | yay! now i'll be less likely to be confused | 21:07 |
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onovy | notmyname: thanks :) | 21:09 |
openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Fix SLO manifest versioning https://review.openstack.org/271883 | 21:10 |
openstackgerrit | Janie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Fix SLO manifest versioning https://review.openstack.org/271883 | 21:12 |
notmyname | onovy: why'd you break grenade?! patch 272189 | 21:13 |
patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272189/ - swift - Fixed docs: Title underline too short | 21:13 |
onovy | notmyname: i don't think I broke it | 21:20 |
notmyname | onovy: or maybe it's working as intended? aren't grenades supposed to blow up? | 21:20 |
onovy | 19:32 jenkins -1 ; 21:05 jenkins +1 | 21:21 |
onovy | so some race condition? | 21:21 |
notmyname | onovy: I'm only joking. I've never known grenade to actually detect an issue in our code. however, I've know it to block lots of unrelated code from landing (like this one) | 21:21 |
onovy | 2016-01-25 20:39:52.457 | tempest_lib.exceptions.SSHTimeout: Connection to the 172.24.5.2 via SSH timed out. | 21:22 |
onovy | :) | 21:22 |
onovy | notmyname: mkey. i was not sure if you are just kidding :P | 21:22 |
notmyname | fun with text-based conversations | 21:22 |
onovy | :] | 21:22 |
onovy | anyone wants to backport CVE-2016-0738 fix to 2.2.0? | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Use calendar.timegm not time.mktime https://review.openstack.org/271542 | 21:28 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/174343 | 22:13 |
torgomatic | heh, the global requirements thing on master is up to patch set 340. I wonder if that's an openstack-wide record. | 22:18 |
notmyname | likely | 22:18 |
notmyname | I think it means we have the high score and are winning | 22:19 |
torgomatic | well then, nobody go break the streak ;) | 22:19 |
notmyname | good news! the patch set counter isn't stored as an 8 bit value! | 22:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jonathan Hinson proposed openstack/swift: Automatic refresh of memcache config settings https://review.openstack.org/218490 | 23:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift: Make handoffs_first a more useful "mode" https://review.openstack.org/215867 | 23:29 |
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mattoliverau | Belated morning, it's Australia Day, so am not really around today. | 23:30 |
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notmyname | mattoliverau: I was looking at the weather. doesn't seem warn there. or rather, not as warm as perth last year | 23:44 |
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torgomatic | in honor of Australia Day, here's an Australia fact: a kangaroo can jump higher than a house. | 23:57 |
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notmyname | most animals can | 23:59 |
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