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| acoles | tdasilva: re your comment on _make_connection here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237393/25/swift/proxy/controllers/obj.py | 15:25 |
| patchbot | acoles: patch 237393 - swift (feature/crypto) - Support for http footers - Replication and EC | 15:25 |
| acoles | tdasilva: i call it from both connect() methods (one in each Putter class) so intent was to not duplicate | 15:26 |
| acoles | tdasilva: did you think it was clearer before? maybe I pushed the refactoring too hard? | 15:26 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: duh, i see...I looked at the MIMEPutter connect so quickly that I didn't notice the call in there | 15:27 |
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| acoles | is it possible to use a url to refer to a specific file *and line* in a gerrit review? | 15:27 |
| tdasilva | acoles: please disregard | 15:27 |
| tdasilva | acoles: yeah, i've looked for that too..it would be nice | 15:27 |
| acoles | tdasilva: ok :) | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: added javaswift to associated projects https://review.openstack.org/301333 | 15:28 |
| acoles | tdasilva: yeah or even to link to a specific comment would be nice | 15:28 |
| acoles | i'll work on patching gerrit on the day between today and tomorrow ;) | 15:28 |
| tdasilva | acoles: i've recently seen people highlighting code when they comment, and I'm still trying to figure that out | 15:29 |
| tdasilva | lol | 15:29 |
| tdasilva | oh, you can just hightlight and then press c, interesting | 15:29 |
| acoles | tdasilva: oh, so make a comment refer to a span of lines? | 15:29 |
| * acoles is trying | 15:29 | |
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| acoles | oic | 15:30 |
| tdasilva | acoles: so how are you guys going about merging stuff into crypto feature branch? | 15:30 |
| tdasilva | for example 237393 | 15:31 |
| acoles | most of my angst at the moment is reserved for the way gerrit hijacks ctrl-f in my browser with its own slow alternative | 15:31 |
| acoles | tdasilva: wait for a cold day and a single +2 ;) | 15:31 |
| tdasilva | hehe, i've seen that too | 15:31 |
| * acoles heard it was cold in on East Coast | 15:31 | |
| tdasilva | acoles: yep, and we are probably sending it your way | 15:32 |
| tdasilva | :D | 15:32 |
| tdasilva | I think we got about 10+ inches of snow between sunday and monday | 15:32 |
| tdasilva | yay for spring! | 15:32 |
| acoles | tdasilva: to date I have mostly been the only core working there so I have +2A'd stuff but usually wait for the others e.g. jrichli to +1 | 15:32 |
| tdasilva | acoles: ok...sounds good | 15:33 |
| acoles | tdasilva: I am just addressing the other comments on 237393 | 15:33 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: certainly if you +2 then I would consider myself able to +A | 15:34 |
| tdasilva | acoles: so i had this "idea" about middleware callbacks...I was wondering if we should create a default namespace for them so that it can be properly documented like an API. Basically with auth we have swift.authorize and now with MIME documents we have swift.update.footers | 15:35 |
| tdasilva | acoles: do you think it makes sense to create something like "swift.callback" or something like that? | 15:35 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: i'm assuming that in the future we could have other middleware adding a callback to swift.update.footers for example | 15:36 |
| acoles | tdasilva: +1 we have used swift.crypto for callbacks/env parameters that are "internal" to crypto and it would be great to have some of these things documented somewhere | 15:36 |
| acoles | tdasilva: do you mean "swift.callback" as a prefix/namespace? | 15:37 |
| tdasilva | yeah | 15:38 |
| tdasilva | so you would have swift.callback.authorize, swift.callback.mimefooters | 15:38 |
| acoles | yeah or others might vote for swift.hook | 15:38 |
| tdasilva | yeah, was really just looking for some consistency | 15:39 |
| acoles | we have a backwards compatibility thing with authorize | 15:39 |
| tdasilva | makes it easier to look in the env later and see what's being added to it in terms of hooks | 15:39 |
| tdasilva | acoles: oh yeah, in the case of 3rd party auth middleware right? | 15:40 |
| tdasilva | true true | 15:40 |
| acoles | yes | 15:40 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:42 |
| acoles | tdasilva: notmyname is here, he can tell us The Right Thing ;-) | 15:43 |
| acoles | notmyname: goo dmorning | 15:43 |
| notmyname | about a generic callback namespace? | 15:43 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: good morning | 15:43 |
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| acoles | notmyname: yes, tdasilva is suggesting some uniformity of naming | 15:45 |
| acoles | we're hoping to be rid of copy_hook, but we're stuck with authorize | 15:45 |
| tdasilva | acoles, notmyname: for a while I was even debating whether to bring it up because of this: https://twitter.com/notmyname/status/705331884226539520 | 15:46 |
| tdasilva | :P | 15:46 |
| acoles | tdasilva: right! did you notice how I attributed the idea to you ^^ :D | 15:50 |
| tdasilva | acoles: lol | 15:50 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: :-) | 15:50 |
| tdasilva | acoles: http://goo.gl/zQS6f1 | 15:51 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: there must be a "mind the gap" meme for this | 15:52 |
| acoles | tdasilva: lol | 15:54 |
| notmyname | I don't have particularly strong views, but I think if we end up with a swift.callback.* namespace, we'll get a needs-to-be-documented set of things that end up being another API | 15:55 |
| notmyname | (that that the current situation doesn't need to be documented either--quite the opposite) | 15:56 |
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| acoles | i think tdasilva was volunteering to document it :P | 15:57 |
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| notmyname | speaking of docs, I just got to your review of the contributing docs. I think you're right | 15:57 |
| notmyname | we need some sort of consolidation of new contributor docs | 15:58 |
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| acoles | notmyname: or,... first_contribution_to_first_contributor_docs.rst ;) | 15:59 |
| notmyname | I also agree with clayg's comments yesterday about just saying something like "you can contribute by filing a bug". | 16:01 |
| notmyname | I'll work on refactoring all those docs into something a little more organized | 16:01 |
| acoles | notmyname: your current patch could act as a launch into the other "drier" docs | 16:03 |
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| notmyname | maybe the content, if not the actual file? | 16:04 |
| notmyname | my first guess would be that CONTRIBUTING.md would be the natural starting point | 16:04 |
| notmyname | (but what do I know? by definition I'm pretty much the furthest from "new contributor" as possible) | 16:05 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: acoles: I'd kinda like to bring up the swift.callback.* idea at the meeting today | 16:08 |
| acoles | notmyname: CONTRIBUTING.md is the most obvious file in root of repo but README.md is what you get to see on github homepage | 16:08 |
| notmyname | yeah. so that's the starting point from which the eyeballs flow | 16:09 |
| jrichli | tdasilva: thanks for the ifmatch rebase! I just replied to your comments in footers. | 16:09 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: acoles: would either of you be ok with talking about the callback namespace int he meeting? | 16:10 |
| acoles | how about README has a pointer to CONTRIBUTING which points to (or includes) the lightweight walkthrough AND the other more complete doc(s) like development_guidelines | 16:10 |
| notmyname | acoles: yeah | 16:10 |
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| acoles | notmyname: then ideally reduce duplicated content across those files | 16:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swiftclient https://review.openstack.org/288566 | 16:12 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok re meeting, i have mixed feelings - in ideal world we'd have uniform naming, but in reality it may be hard to enforce/maintain | 16:14 |
| notmyname | we're not talking hundreds (or even dozens) of callbacks. how is it harder than anything else? | 16:15 |
| acoles | i mean maintain as in ensure that every future callback adheres to the naming scheme | 16:16 |
| acoles | for example, i think we have done pretty well using sysmeta since it has existed, but there may still have been new middleware features that used "user" -meta- names. | 16:17 |
| acoles | (I don't have an example to substantiate that, but I thought I'd seen it) | 16:18 |
| acoles | notmyname: anyway, discussing at meeting sounds good | 16:19 |
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| notmyname | asettle: are you in the UK now or still in Oz? | 16:26 |
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| clayg | acoles: I saw patch 302294 before your comment - the cringe is real :D | 16:34 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302294/ - swift - Assert that ChunkWriteTimouts are not logged | 16:34 |
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| acoles | clayg: argh! stupid me left the pass in there :/ | 16:38 |
| acoles | clayg: maybe you can guess i had removed the following two lines to check the test | 16:39 |
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| tdasilva | ok i'm back | 17:03 |
| tdasilva | re swift.callback.* it was just an idea around documenting it. I think especially around the footers callback, it does seem like an API to me in the sense that other middleware could use...but then again so was copy_hook and we were glad to get rid of it | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Refactor server side copy as middleware https://review.openstack.org/156923 | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: Support for http footers - Replication and EC https://review.openstack.org/237393 | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 17:23 |
| acoles | tdasilva: jrichli ^^ addressed comments on patchset 25. see my replies to comments, in particular i do not think x-object-sysmeta-ec-etag should or needs to be overwritten. | 17:24 |
| tdasilva | acoles: was just reading that comment now | 17:24 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: cool, we even already have X-Backend-Etag-Is-At handling here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257603/7/swift/common/middleware/encrypter.py | 17:26 |
| patchbot | tdasilva: patch 257603 - swift (feature/crypto) - WIP Conditional GETs Fix | 17:26 |
| tdasilva | line 272 | 17:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Shutdown backend EC connection contexts on disconnect https://review.openstack.org/297573 | 17:28 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: ok, great. duh, that just reminded me of a change i had meant to make to the callback to make it wrap and call any existing callback :/ | 17:33 |
| acoles | back later | 17:34 |
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| notmyname | now if you hover over a link under "community starred patches" on http://not.mn/swift/swift_community_dashboard.html, you'll see it's relative weight. number 1 is always 100% | 17:41 |
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| zaitcev | I can't keep up with all the community management innovations. | 17:57 |
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| hrou | Hey clayg, (jrichli, mentioned symlink came up last week during the meeting) yea I'd love to get more traction on that (but we don't have a lot of resources on our team dedicated to it as of late unfortunately) if anyone is interested in some dev work / or maybe even a conversation about direction that's be awesome; kota_ I'm reviewing your tiering spec's btw ! | 18:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix infinite recursion during logging when syslog is down https://review.openstack.org/302406 | 18:48 |
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| clayg | hrou: ah good to hear from you! | 19:14 |
| clayg | hrou: it'll probably come up again in Austin - not sure what'll happen from there | 19:15 |
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| notmyname | pdardeau: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/13/302413/2/check/gate-training-guides-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/4d9bf6b//publish-docs/upstream-training/accounts.html looks good | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swiftclient https://review.openstack.org/288566 | 19:43 |
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| clayg | notmyname: no i like md better! | 19:47 |
| zaitcev | My direct supervisor contributed a patch for Swift. | 19:47 |
| zaitcev | Asks me to review | 19:47 |
| notmyname | clayg: well, yeah. no, actually I don't care. I think I might like md better. but I like to have THE SAME FORMAT IN THE SAME REPO! ;-) | 19:47 |
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| notmyname | zaitcev: obviously +2/+A would merge again | 19:48 |
| zaitcev | Looks like a fine patch, I think it's good. But... isn't it a conflict of interests? You guys can't be sure I gave the patch a fair challenge. | 19:48 |
| clayg | zaitcev: we can be sure | 19:48 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: you have a commit bit. I'd trust you to only approve somethign if it's good | 19:48 |
| zaitcev | hmm okay | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack/swift: Rework the contributor docs https://review.openstack.org/301871 | 19:49 |
| joeljwright | zaitcev: surely you made them work harder than normal? :) | 19:49 |
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| joeljwright | notmyname: the service-api.rst and examples in patch 288566 are now complete and in need of review | 19:50 |
| patchbot | joeljwright: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288566/ - python-swiftclient - WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swift... | 19:50 |
| joeljwright | we're very close to having everything we talked about at the hackathon done | 19:51 |
| notmyname | clayg: definitely still WIP (but I'm going to go eat now), but the top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301871/4/CONTRIBUTING.md is where I'm trying to incorporate some of your ideas about low bars to contribute | 19:51 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 301871 - swift - Rework the contributor docs | 19:51 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: cool! | 19:51 |
| * notmyname goes off to lunch now | 19:52 | |
| joeljwright | every time I talk about docs people run away ;) | 19:52 |
| * clayg runs awaya | 19:52 | |
| joeljwright | :D | 19:52 |
| notmyname | you didn't properly tie them to a chair first ;-) | 19:52 |
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| clayg | notmyname: whos hosting the upstream swift party in Ausing? | 20:22 |
| clayg | *Austin | 20:22 |
| clayg | is there a meeting today? | 20:22 |
| jrichli | clayg: I was looking into something for Austin. but not sure yet | 20:23 |
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| notmyname | clayg: yes, there's a meeting in about 30 minutes | 20:26 |
| notmyname | I know nothing about any party at this point. I'm glad to hear jrichli is on it because, I'm sad to say, I kinda forgot with all the stuff going on | 20:27 |
| notmyname | (that was a joke, BTW) | 20:34 |
| clayg | notmyname: what was joke? | 20:34 |
| notmyname | the part about jrichli needing to organize a party. not the part about me not thinking about it | 20:35 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: :-) I really am trying to get together at least a sponsored dinner for the team - don't know if it would qualify as a "party", but isn't it always a party when the team is together? ;-) | 20:38 |
| zaitcev | that was too realistic | 20:39 |
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| clayg | always a party | 20:51 |
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| kota_ | good morning | 20:58 |
| notmyname | hello kota_ | 20:58 |
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| hrou | clayg, awesome thanks; So I'll commit to have something ready to discuss by Austin ;) (that may not be code, but at least - hey these are the options for progress / here's the situation / ...) | 20:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: remove unused current_status method https://review.openstack.org/302437 | 20:59 |
| notmyname | everyone's favorite time of the week is here. swif tteam meeting in #openstack-meeting | 20:59 |
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| tdasilva | hrou: will you be there? | 20:59 |
| hrou | tdasilva, unfortunately probably not :( We'll see though some planning going on as we speak; But a presentation can be there either way :) And I'll sync up with the NTT / Kota folks (as they're one of the groups that really want to see that in, swift3 as well last I checked) | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Port from optparse to argparse https://review.openstack.org/287666 | 21:20 |
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| timburke | tdasilva: prior to https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/7f636a5, you could have a SLO that ends with a zero-byte segment. now, we can't. as a result, any previously-created SLOs that end with a zero-byte segment can't be copied :( | 21:30 |
| timburke | this isn't exactly an issue currently, as you can't copy a SLO and have it stay an SLO (right?) | 21:32 |
| cschwede | notmyname: acoles: sorry, was delayed on my way home, hoped to be on time for the meeting. i’m still working on the multi node testing; we also need patch 297311 to be merged before we can continue | 21:37 |
| patchbot | cschwede: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297311/ - openstack-infra/devstack-gate - Run swift services on subnode | 21:37 |
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| acoles | cschwede: np. let us know how/when you need help | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Remo Mattei proposed openstack/swift: Fix typo in the new_contributor file https://review.openstack.org/302448 | 21:43 |
| notmyname | ok, let's move on | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | #topic summit prep status | 21:45 |
| notmyname | mostly just a reminder | 21:45 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-newton-summit-planning | 21:45 |
| notmyname | fill that out. add your ideas | 21:45 |
| kota_ | notmyname: here is another channel | 21:45 |
| cschwede | notmyname: wrong channel | 21:45 |
| notmyname | bah | 21:45 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:45 |
| joeljwright | wrong place :) | 21:45 |
| hosanai | hahaha | 21:46 |
| joeljwright | thought I was going mad for a minute there | 21:46 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: so in client-api.rst, what do you mean by interesting examples? | 22:02 |
| joeljwright | we need some usage examples (see the examples folder for service usage examples) | 22:02 |
| joeljwright | we're also putting in usage examples in the cli file | 22:03 |
| notmyname | ah, ok! I get it | 22:03 |
| notmyname | ok, I'll take a look later this week. thank you for your work here | 22:04 |
| joeljwright | the idea was (at the hackathon) to not provide too much information in the client-api.rst file | 22:04 |
| notmyname | I gotta run an errand. be back in a bit | 22:04 |
| joeljwright | just some helpful pointers for people who discover they really need it | 22:04 |
| joeljwright | kk, I need to sleep | 22:04 |
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| joeljwright | up early in the morning | 22:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joel Wright proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swiftclient https://review.openstack.org/288566 | 22:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix infinite recursion during logging when syslog is down https://review.openstack.org/302406 | 22:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix infinite recursion during logging when syslog is down https://review.openstack.org/302406 | 22:45 |
| notmyname | /back | 22:50 |
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| timburke | notmyname: submitted patch 302462 for the backport | 22:56 |
| patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302462/ - swift (stable/mitaka) - Fix upgrade bug in versioned_writes | 22:56 |
| notmyname | timburke: oh, cool. thanks | 22:56 |
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| notmyname | timburke: doesn't look like there are any conflicts that had to be resolved | 23:02 |
| timburke | nope. very straight-forward | 23:02 |
| notmyname | great | 23:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: ObjectEngine abstraction layer https://review.openstack.org/278932 | 23:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: hashes.invalid https://review.openstack.org/286833 | 23:16 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews updated about the copy middleware work | 23:18 |
| notmyname | (also moved to the top) | 23:19 |
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| notmyname | asettle: can you relate? http://imgur.com/Qr2ueBi | 23:55 |
| asettle | HAHAHAHHH HOLY SHIT | 23:55 |
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| asettle | I can't even explain how relevant that is. | 23:55 |
| asettle | It's terribly true. | 23:55 |
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