Friday, 2016-04-15

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kota_morning01:10
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kota_looking at user survey, notmyname mentioned above.01:16
kota_I found jrichli photo at page 48 :)01:17
jrichlikota_ : :-)  how are you?  are you excited about coming to Austin again?01:19
kota_jrichli: oh your are still around.01:20
kota_jrichli: I'm looking forward to being there :)01:20
jrichliwell, I did take a break to eat dinner ;-)01:21
kota_jrichli: enjoy!01:21
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openstackgerritJanie Richling proposed openstack/swift: Encrypt/decrypt etag in container listing  https://review.openstack.org/27549201:35
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tdasilvanotmyname: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/python-is-an-equal-opportunity-programming-language this article has a cool reference to swift and pypy02:19
notmynametdasilva: cool, thanks02:19
notmynameoh, hey. that's david stewart. I'm giving a talk with him in austin02:19
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notmynameand he's talking about the swift work :-)02:21
tdasilvai guess we know the result now ;)02:21
notmynameheh. that's the same numbers he's shared with me02:21
notmynamein my own tests, I've seen some that are better and some that are worse02:22
notmynameand just today we were kicking off some more testing, and we were getting a lot of errors. so more to debug :-)02:22
clarkbis there a reason this isn't also happening in the upstream tests? (we can and do run tests on pypy)02:23
clarkbis it just not ready yet?02:24
notmynameclarkb: that's a great question02:24
notmynamea long time ago, we had some pypy tests for swift02:24
notmynameand today we've got pypy tests with swiftclient02:24
notmynamebut I honestly don't remember why we stopped running the swift pypy tests02:24
notmynameclarkb: but yeah. once we get some of these final issues sussed out, if it looks like a reasonable production choice, I'd definitely like to have pypy tests in the gate02:25
notmynameso there's no real barrier to that today?02:25
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clarkbshouldn't be02:26
notmynamecool. great to hear02:26
tdasilvayeah, that would be cool02:26
clarkbat least for unittests, I think devstack is still trying to sort out how to deal wiht alternate interpreters for py3k for example02:26
tdasilvanotmyname: we already have pypy tests for swiftclient in the gate?02:26
notmynameyeah, IIRC02:26
clarkbtdasilva: notmyname they are check only currently but you could gate on them if you want I think02:27
notmynameyup02:27
notmynamehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/288566/02:27
patchbotnotmyname: patch 288566 - python-swiftclient - WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swift...02:27
notmynamenon-voting02:27
tdasilvaoh yeah, nice...i think that's ok02:27
notmynamewould be nice to flip that switch02:27
tdasilvabetter than nothing02:27
tdasilvai'm off, have a good night02:28
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix download resumption after getting no data.  https://review.openstack.org/30622703:08
openstackgerritAndy McCrae proposed openstack/swift: Allow fallocate_reserve to be a percentage  https://review.openstack.org/28801103:11
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jrichlipatch 268723 only needs one more +2.  i'd appreciate a review :-)03:26
patchbotjrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268723/ - swift - swift-[account|container]-info when disk is full03:26
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kota_tdasilva: I was walking through the patch 26017906:01
patchbotkota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY06:01
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kota_and I noticed Tim's (really great) comments makes me to wonder about the code at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/16/swift/common/middleware/versioned_writes.py@27406:02
patchbotkota_: patch 260179 - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY06:02
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kota_tdasilva: I added my opinion there, so could you please feel free to let me know about your opinion for that when you are online?06:03
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kota_oh... gerrit aborted?08:10
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openstackgerritDmitriy Ukhlov proposed openstack/swift: Adds eventlet monkey patching of select module if thread is pathed  https://review.openstack.org/30340114:06
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notmynamegood morning16:22
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openstackgerritMohit Motiani proposed openstack/swift: Update SAIO setup for Ubuntu 14.04  https://review.openstack.org/20779016:23
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notmynamemmotiani: so it's a small thing, but these things matter when updating docs: on that patch, you've got some extra whitespace that was left in. see the red stuff at the bottom of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207790/10/doc/source/development_saio.rst16:27
patchbotnotmyname: patch 207790 - swift - Update SAIO setup for Ubuntu 14.0416:27
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openstackgerritMohit Motiani proposed openstack/swift: Update SAIO setup for Ubuntu 14.04  https://review.openstack.org/20779016:28
notmynamemmotiani: nice :-)16:29
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mmotianinotmyname: Yeah checked and updated16:37
mmotianinotmyname: thanks :)16:37
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klamathare there issues with having write back enabled on the HBA with swift object nodes?16:44
notmynameklamath: seems like that could be a durability issue. normally you want to prioritize durability in a swift deployment over speed16:44
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notmynamebut if eg you've got some supercap or battery in the HBA that guarantees durably flushing the data on power loss or something, then writeback might be ok16:45
notmynamebut on the other hand, those kind of cards add non-trival costs to your storage nodes16:45
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klamathi was wondering if it would cause issues with fsync operations with many disks sharing the same cache16:46
notmynameklamath: so in summary, no, there's no issues from the swift side (in that everything will work). it's just that when the hardware could be lying about when stuff is durably stored, and swift will craft responses based ont hat16:46
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klamathunderstood16:47
notmynameklamath: depends on how the hba is configured. if swift does an fsync, will the hba return immediately or will it actually flush all the way to the disk. I thought it would return immediately, but I could be wrong16:48
notmyname(in WB mode)16:48
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gmmahanotmyname: for patch 207790, think easy_install is an overkill/causes more confusion?17:43
patchbotgmmaha: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207790/ - swift - Update SAIO setup for Ubuntu 14.0417:43
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notmynamegmmaha: probably. but that's, just, like, my opinion, man18:10
gmmahanotmyname: :) on lack of more test data i had to put it there. :(18:11
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notmynameVinsh: ping. re the memcache stuff from yesterday, can you share your pipeline order?18:48
Vinshpipeline = catch_errors healthcheck proxy-logging cache ratelimit formpost tempurl authtoken slo keystone staticweb account_quotas container_quotas proxy-server18:49
notmynameVinsh: thanks18:50
Vinshbenchmark about to finish on the larger cluster here... interesting that splice = true seems to have ever so slightly slowed things.18:50
notmynamethat seems the opposite of what you'd hope for18:51
Vinshit's marginal.. very minor.18:52
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Move all monkey patching to one function  https://review.openstack.org/30661219:45
claygtorgomatic: ^yayayayayay!!!19:45
torgomaticclayg: :)19:45
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claygtorgomatic: did you look into why the updaters need to patch like that and things like say.... the replicators don't?19:50
torgomaticclayg: no, I just sort of mechanically gathered all that stuff into one place and then fixed some mocks19:51
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claygtorgomatic: I mean if you dig all the way down to when the REPLICATE verbs are firing and where the subprocesses come from - I think it's mostly explicit green imports - so wtf is the updater doing?19:51
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claygtorgomatic: yeah kudos on the context manager stacking there19:51
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clayglooking at the ssbench results from the the community cluster on the select patch change -> https://8b86aea46fb38e6450f2-0e5f4c086da474abc1df58826577db2f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/303401/3471/ssbench/ssbench_result.html19:56
claygI wonder if those ec errors were the 206 thing?19:56
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claygexcited about the community cluster results for patch 306227 !!!19:59
patchbotclayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306227/ - swift - Fix download resumption after getting no data.19:59
claygnotmyname: do you know how to check the backlog/queue on our community cluster like in jenkins or w/e?20:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Convert README.md to README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/30365720:02
notmynameclayg: looking20:02
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notmynameclayg: link incoming in slack20:03
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thingeenotmyname: hey the Swift fish bowl sessions are still marked as TBD. Can you please update those with titles and descriptions today?20:54
notmynamethingee: I'm working on it right now20:55
notmynamethingee: and yes, my plan is to be done today20:55
thingeenotmyname: thanks!20:55
notmynamethingee: and by "today" I really really hope (and expect) to be done by the close of business, but it will definitely be before start of business on monday :-)20:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Don't include conditional headers in SLO HEAD requests  https://review.openstack.org/30544020:57
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notmynamejrichli: we don't have a working session for crypto. that seems odd to me. do we need one?21:02
jrichlinotmyname: yes, we probably do.  I know that acoles wanted to talk more about key management21:07
notmynameok, good21:07
jrichliand we might have a few more items to chat about21:07
notmynameI'm working on it now. I'll add it in21:07
jrichliok, thanks21:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Adds eventlet monkey patching of select module if thread is pathed  https://review.openstack.org/30340121:07
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timburkehuh. well that's funny: https://gist.github.com/tipabu/87114e5db740d790ca0f4b96b8a1d14d#file-negative-end-byte-L1221:46
torgomatictimburke: ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer21:50
torgomaticstill, that ought to be a 40021:51
torgomaticor possibly ignored; Range is weird21:51
timburkei *love* asking stupid questions!21:51
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torgomatic@timburke bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/157110622:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1571106 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Bogus Range header gets bogus response" [Undecided,New]22:46
zaitcevI love how devious the double minus is.22:55
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix download resumption after getting no data.  https://review.openstack.org/30622723:18
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notmynameswift's summit schedule is now live https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Swift%3A23:41
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Tighten up ResumingGetter.fast_forward  https://review.openstack.org/30666123:41
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notmynamethingee: schedule pushed (link above)23:43
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