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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: crypto - verify that x-object-meta-etag does not confuse https://review.openstack.org/305374 | 00:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: Stop staticweb revealing container existence to unauth'd requests https://review.openstack.org/248867 | 02:00 |
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| Jae6 | I'm in the process of creating the VM on VMware but I keep getting the error "Cannot set up guest memory 'pc.ram': Cannot alocate memory. The doc says I should do 8GB. I'm trying with down to 4GB but still no luck | 03:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: ObjectEngine abstraction layer https://review.openstack.org/278932 | 03:08 |
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| kirubak | do we have plan to support zero-copy-put on swift ? | 05:36 |
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| zaitcev | not with EC :-) | 05:38 |
| zaitcev | Also, how do you propose to fork the object body into 3 storage servers with zero-copy? I don't recall sendfile being capable of that. | 05:40 |
| kirubak | shouldn't the solution is on the object-server side from socket directly to the disk ? there was an work on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104705/6 , but in abandoned state ! | 05:45 |
| patchbot | kirubak: patch 104705 - swift - Zero-copy object-server PUT requests with splice() (ABANDONED) | 05:45 |
| kirubak | yes, i am not able to find the reason why it got ABANDONED. ? | 05:50 |
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| clayg | kirubak: by another name? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102609/ | 06:48 |
| patchbot | clayg: patch 102609 - swift - Zero-copy object-server GET responses with splice() (MERGED) | 06:48 |
| clayg | oic, for the write path - yeah i guess torgomatic got busy with other stuff - that was a while ago | 06:50 |
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| kirubak | On my profiling, timeout_reader() is one of the major contributor for the high PUT latency. The splice may help here in improving the latency of the PUT. How can we get help in pushing the above patch into the tree ? | 06:59 |
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| clayg | maybe test it and publish your results? | 07:23 |
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| clayg | did you compare splice on reads? torgomatic always said that it worked well enough at reducing cpu usage - but it wasn't ever really any more performant because the disk performance eventually dominates... | 07:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - Update container with correct etag on POST https://review.openstack.org/305995 | 08:41 |
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| mahatic_ | acoles: hi! Do you want me to reinstate this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216974/6/swift/common/middleware/trivial_keymaster.py, with your suggestions on trello? and as a different patch? | 08:57 |
| patchbot | mahatic_: patch 216974 - swift (feature/crypto) - Encrypt flag for probe tests | 08:57 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: the change points to BYOK one | 08:57 |
| mahatic_ | notmyname: thanks | 08:57 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: unless you're already working on it | 08:59 |
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| acoles | mahatic_: hi. if you are able to break the keymaster pieces (BYOK support) into a separate patch that would be great | 09:01 |
| acoles | mahatic_: no i am not working on that but I'd like to have it it this week | 09:02 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: ok, I will try to seperate the code today | 09:03 |
| acoles | mahatic_: thanks! | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - cleanup decrypter exception handling https://review.openstack.org/304806 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift: Encrypt flag for probe tests https://review.openstack.org/216974 | 09:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift: crypto - Encrypt flag for probe tests https://review.openstack.org/216974 | 10:14 |
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| oshritf | @acoles: hi! Any chance you could take a look at this container sync patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210099/ | 13:00 |
| patchbot | oshritf: patch 210099 - swift - Add process level concurrency to container sync | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift: crypto - byok support in keymaster https://review.openstack.org/307811 | 13:15 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: ^ | 13:17 |
| acoles | mahatic_: yep, saw it, thanks | 13:17 |
| mahatic_ | ok, np | 13:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: crypto - byok support in keymaster https://review.openstack.org/307811 | 14:45 |
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| acoles | mahatic_: ^^ thanks, left some suggestions on both patches | 15:08 |
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| notmyname | good morning | 15:38 |
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| ntata | good morning notmyname | 15:48 |
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| ntata | notmyname, I'm interested in working on | 15:50 |
| ntata | https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1177924 | 15:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1177924 in OpenStack DBaaS (Trove) "Use testr instead of nose as the unittest runner." [Low,Triaged] | 15:50 |
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| notmyname | ntata: that's not a bad thing to work on, as a first "thing" that's all yours ;-) | 15:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed openstack/swift: Allow fallocate_reserve to be a percentage https://review.openstack.org/288011 | 15:53 |
| notmyname | ntata: and you'd definitely be able to get some help from hurricanerix because he's sitting next to you | 15:53 |
| ntata | notmyname, thank you :D | 15:53 |
| notmyname | ntata: however, I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1571088 would probably be a little better, from a community standpoint | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1571088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "make tempest plugin for functests" [Wishlist,New] | 15:54 |
| notmyname | ntata: it's similar (dealing with tests), you'd also be able to get help from hurricanerix, and it finishes some of the stuff he started with getting the functests running under testr | 15:54 |
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| ntata | sure, I'll take a look at it and work with hurricanerix | 15:55 |
| hurricanerix | ntata yeah, I can help you with those if you need it. | 15:55 |
| notmyname | hurricanerix: thanks :-) | 15:55 |
| notmyname | ntata: I'd much prefer to see the tempest plugin done over having unittests use testr | 15:56 |
| pdardeau | notmyname: you're right, thx | 15:56 |
| pdardeau | i picked up wrong one notmyname ntata | 15:56 |
| ntata | got it! Will pick this one up first | 15:56 |
| pdardeau | hurricanerix: ^ | 15:57 |
| notmyname | pdardeau: no worries. that's why we have IRC to talk :-) | 15:57 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ | 16:36 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 238799 - swift - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 16:36 |
| notmyname | wrong one | 16:36 |
| notmyname | jrichli: https://twitter.com/majorhayden/status/722463739761459200 | 16:36 |
| notmyname | there | 16:36 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: that should be the final slide in your crypto talk ;-) | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Include X-Auth-Token in all versioned_writes subrequests https://review.openstack.org/307929 | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift: Close all versioned_writes subrequests' app_iters https://review.openstack.org/307937 | 17:18 |
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| timburke | good morning | 17:22 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: thanks, that | 17:55 |
| jrichli | s great! | 17:55 |
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| hurricanerix | notmyname has the location for the next hackathon been determined yet? | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: ObjectEngine abstraction layer https://review.openstack.org/278932 | 19:32 |
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| notmyname | hurricanerix: no | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Barton proposed openstack/swift: go: ObjectEngine abstraction layer https://review.openstack.org/278932 | 19:39 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: any idea of timeframe? | 19:39 |
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| notmyname | hurricanerix: no. there hasn't been any planning or discussion on it at all. | 19:59 |
| notmyname | it's probably something that will come up in hallway conversations next week | 19:59 |
| hurricanerix | notmyname just curious. i figured now might be a nice time to start looking into talking to people about budget to attend before it gets too close. | 20:00 |
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| notmyname | yeah, of course | 20:01 |
| notmyname | in the past, the super official process has been that one or two people send me an email or talk to me in person about their willingness to sponsor. then we figure out the logistics and tell everyone | 20:01 |
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| notmyname | etherpads for the summit are up: please feel free to update and add questions/answers/topics/etc https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Swift | 20:23 |
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| mattoliverau | morning | 22:01 |
| notmyname | hello mattoliverau | 22:05 |
| pdardeau | hi mattoliverau | 22:10 |
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| notmyname | I propose that we skip the team meeting tomorrow. there's nothing that's on the agenda. the only things I have are "what about rolling upgrade testing" and "be sure to get ready for the summit" | 22:17 |
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| mattoliverau | notmyname: thats ok with me, we will all be hanging out next week. :) Prep for Austin is my big plan for this week (ie catch up with whats happening) | 22:19 |
| notmyname | so in a couple of hours we need to make sure hisashi and takashi and kota know that | 22:19 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: I'm on it ;) | 22:20 |
| notmyname | jsut so they don't get up super early on thursday | 22:20 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: thanks :-) | 22:20 |
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| notmyname | whew. defcore scoring patch reviewed. <- hogepodge | 22:29 |
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| hogepodge | notmyname: thanks | 22:40 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: I didn't leave a -1 because I don't understand the "proximity" thing. just a+0 with some questions | 22:41 |
| hogepodge | Is it correct to say the SwiftOperator is not same as admin? I read it as a user who can set ACLs, not on the same level as an Keystone/Nova/etc admin | 22:42 |
| notmyname | this is one of those areas where we've got to be careful with definitions, cause I think it's subtly different between keystone and swift | 22:42 |
| notmyname | zigo: clarkb: FWIW I just downgraded my swift all in one to the minimum specified requirements and everything passes | 22:43 |
| hogepodge | notmyname: we don't allow for capabilities that require administrator access, so depending on how we read it some things might not be part of the standard | 22:43 |
| zigo | notmyname: Good to hear! :) | 22:43 |
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| notmyname | hogepodge: let me find where SwiftOperator is set... | 22:44 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: ah ok | 22:44 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: so keystone has the SwiftOperator role? | 22:45 |
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| zigo | notmyname: BTW, any progress on https://bugs.debian.org/812984 (ie: backporting the CVE-2016-0738 fix to 2.2.0, aka Juno, which is what we have in Jessie) ? | 22:45 |
| openstack | Debian bug 812984 in swift "CVE-2016-0738: Fix memory/socket leak in proxy on truncated SLO/DLO GET" [Important,Fixed] | 22:45 |
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| notmyname | zigo: nope. not yet | 22:45 |
| zigo | :P | 22:45 |
| zigo | Sorry to be a pain about it, but the security team is also painfully asking us ... | 22:46 |
| notmyname | zigo: yeah... | 22:46 |
| zigo | Opened bugs in the Debian BTS are also just like moskito bites: it feels like scratching them ... | 22:47 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: here's what I'm seeing (from the swift side) | 22:47 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: in the keystoneauth middleware, there's a "operator_roles" setting. looks to default to "admin, swiftoperator" | 22:47 |
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| notmyname | hogepodge: those who have those roles are what you and I would call "normal" users. ie you can do stuff in your account (alternatively phrased as "you have admin access to your own account and can create and delete stuff in there and set any metadata you want") | 22:48 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: ie that's what you get when you sign up for a public cloud provider and they give you a swift endpoint | 22:49 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: in the config there's also a "reseller_admin_role" setting. a reseller admit has access to everything. this is what (AIUI) is called "admin" in other projects. ie it's "root" and you shouldn't use it for any sort of normal activity | 22:50 |
| hogepodge | notmyname: gotcha, thanks | 22:50 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: and coming back around to the capabilities listed, there is nothing that I saw in the patch just now that requires a reseller_admin level access. and this is accurately reflected int eh scoring matrix in the "not admin" field (everythign has a 1) | 22:51 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: is that what you understand too? are we on the same page? | 22:51 |
| hogepodge | yeah, that's how I was understanding it. Someone brought it up as an issue, but it's terminology confusion. | 22:51 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: so what about the proximity thing? why do the two that are marked as 0 for that actually listed that way? | 22:54 |
| notmyname | or alternatively, why do the others get a 1 | 22:54 |
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| hogepodge | notmyname: tbh, I have a hard time grasping proximity, which is defined as "selects for capabilities that are related to DefCore capabilities. This helps ensure that related capabilities are managed together." | 22:59 |
| notmyname | right. but because all these tests are part of defcore, don't *all* of them select for capabilities related to defcore? | 23:00 |
| notmyname | like, by definition. these are, in face, defcore tests | 23:00 |
| hogepodge | I'd as zehicle or markvoelker to explain futher | 23:01 |
| hogepodge | s/as/ask | 23:01 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: egle had asked me to review these by wednesday. is soemthing going on tomorrow with defcore? | 23:02 |
| hogepodge | notmyname: we're trying to wrap up the capability scoring before the summit | 23:02 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: ok, makes sense. | 23:03 |
| hogepodge | notmyname: to prepare info for the upcoming board meeting this sunday | 23:03 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: what about the other tests for listing containers and objects? why weren't those included in the capability definition? | 23:03 |
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| notmyname | yeah, i know I'm just asking the same questions as in gerrit. if you just want to respond there, that's fine :-) | 23:04 |
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| notmyname | zigo: what do you mean by "They are wrong. They *must* upgrade, because upstream for library X will anyway supporting the old deprecated version next week." | 23:05 |
| zigo | notmyname: We must always stay current. | 23:06 |
| notmyname | zigo: seems like you're advocating for "if one project ups a version dependency, the whole world moves" | 23:06 |
| notmyname | (minimum version dependency) | 23:06 |
| zigo | notmyname: No. If *upstream* for a lib moves, we should follow and stay current. | 23:06 |
| zigo | Support whatever is the last version. | 23:07 |
| zigo | Oh, for the minimum version? I wrote elsewhere in the thread that we shouldn't care so much about that. | 23:07 |
| notmyname | ok. just trying to parse it :-) | 23:07 |
| notmyname | so everyone has to support the global latest allowed version. but you can have your own minimum version (at your own peril) | 23:07 |
| notmyname | right? | 23:07 |
| notmyname | zigo: just trying to keep up with the conversation and make sure I understand what's going on and what people are wanting to do :-) | 23:10 |
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| hogepodge | notmyname: commented on the patch. tl;dr, I was going for a smaller sampling of simpler tests. xml isn't a capability that's future direction (despite being there right now), but aside from that it's simplicity more than any other reason. That said, I'm not opposed to adding additional tests from that suite | 23:16 |
| notmyname | there's the xml and json listings (not an xml api, per-se, so we could quibble about "future direction"). and also there's all the limit, marker, etc tests | 23:17 |
| hogepodge | notmyname: yup, I'd be happy to add those in, as well as the json | 23:18 |
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| hogepodge | notmyname: will xml being deprecated or removed across other projects, I'm not so inclined add those tests | 23:20 |
| notmyname | hogepodge: I don't agree, but I'll happily settle for having all the other ones added :-) | 23:23 |
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| zigo | notmyname: That's aprox what I'm saying, yes. | 23:28 |
| notmyname | zigo: ok, thanks :-) | 23:28 |
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