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timburke | zaitcev: "relatively stable"? have *you seen* what's going on in libec lately? there were *so many bugs*! but it's gonna be great now; kota_ made sure ;-) | 02:49 |
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timburke | just gotta sort out https://bugs.launchpad.net/liberasurecode/+bug/1666320 | 02:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1666320 in liberasurecode "crc32 implementation is schizophrenic" [Undecided,New] | 02:49 |
dja | timburke: good news, without reading the bug I can tell you how what it is and hwo to fix it | 02:50 |
dja | timburke: aww, someone beat me to the punchline in the bug report | 02:50 |
dja | timburke: our crc32 is shadowed by zlib | 02:50 |
dja | timburke: whenever we load liberasurecode through python | 02:50 |
dja | timburke: I came across this building an ppc64le crc speedup | 02:51 |
timburke | dja: yeah, i know what's going on; what makes me nervous is i don't know whether we can fix it without breaking existing users | 02:51 |
dja | timburke: yeah, reaidng the bug report I think you're probably screwed | 02:51 |
timburke | i must admit though, i rather hate how the comments are clearly lying to me :-( | 02:51 |
dja | timburke: the good news is that any user up through swift will be using zlib | 02:51 |
dja | so if you're willing to assert swift->pyeclib->liberasurecode you can just chuck the old code | 02:52 |
timburke | but now we're not just *swift developers* but *C library maintainers*. i dunno how to resolve it :-/ | 02:52 |
dja | yeah. | 02:52 |
timburke | i'm really *really* tempted to just scrap the whole thing and pretend it never happened | 02:53 |
dja | I did a ppc64le implementaiton: i first renamed the function then added some more cases. | 02:54 |
timburke | the extra fun part is when you realize you can break existing data by twiddling LD_PRELOAD | 02:54 |
dja | timburke: I would say you're right to scrap the whole thing | 02:54 |
dja | if you're twiddling ldpreload though, all bets are already off :P | 02:55 |
timburke | it's *so tempting*. so very tempting | 02:55 |
timburke | tru dat | 02:55 |
dja | timburke: it's really difficult to see a better solution | 02:55 |
dja | timburke: i mean the only other thing would be to rename the symbols (or do symbol visibility stuff) and fix them at the same time | 02:55 |
dja | but I agree if anyone has used the broken impl, there's no real hope | 02:56 |
timburke | we could do some version detection -- we bake that into the fragment metadata currently, so we could compute both crcs and allow either | 02:57 |
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timburke | but i frankly just don't want to write that patch | 02:57 |
timburke | it'll be ugly and i have no evidence that anyone is actually affected | 02:58 |
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dja | timburke: so if (version < new fixed version) { return real_crc_ok() || weird_crc_ok() } else { return real_crc_ok() } | 02:58 |
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timburke | yup | 02:59 |
dja | timburke: I was talking with john dickinson at LCA; he was talking about merging the repos/release process of pyeclib and liberasure code | 03:00 |
dja | timburke: if you can bring them together, you can then leave an old version of liberasurecode and put the fixes in the combined repo | 03:00 |
dja | timburke: then you can assert that all users are going through python | 03:01 |
dja | timburke: so you can safely drop the old crc code | 03:01 |
dja | timburke: that's probably the only way you can not accidentally break any hypothetical liberasurecode-but-not-pyeclib users | 03:01 |
* dja -> meeting | 03:03 | |
timburke | hmmm... might work... dunno if onovy will be on board though... he seemed to want the new repo beget (1) python with libec statically linked for pypi (2) libec *.sos for general distro consumption, and (3) python dynamically linked against (2), again for distros | 03:03 |
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dja | timburke: fair enough. I think you want to avoid a version switch in the header; you'll end up owning it for ever like MySQL etc do for old table versions | 03:24 |
dja | timburke: I'd say just break it :) | 03:24 |
timburke | something tells me the rest of swift may say "yeah, we own it. forever. it sucks" | 03:25 |
timburke | (hi clayg!) | 03:25 |
timburke | if he's still up | 03:25 |
dja | timburke: well at least we can pull out the weird SSE stuff? | 03:25 |
timburke | pretty sure. that seems like nothing but lies | 03:25 |
dja | if we're just holding one weird table-based implementation hopefully we can stash that in the corner somewhere | 03:26 |
dja | timburke: I'm interested in getting the API right here becasue on ppc64le we need to do dynamic probing to check we have the hardware capability | 03:26 |
dja | (or we compile and hope no-one runs on old HW) | 03:26 |
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dja | timburke: I'm happy to write some of the code - I am poking around in that area anyway. I was hoping to do some symbol hiding by default which should also help avoid namespace collisions in future. | 03:30 |
dja | timburke: if we really decide that we own all the pieces. | 03:30 |
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timburke | wat http://logs.openstack.org/65/433565/3/check/gate-swift-tox-xfs-tmp-py27-ubuntu-xenial/7051067/console.html#_2017-02-21_20_32_56_347462 | 07:58 |
timburke | how did that job pass for the previous attempt? and why did crypto fail?? | 07:59 |
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Dw_Sn | quick question regarding replcations, I have one swift proxy and 2 object storage servers, each server is in a diff. zone..the rings has replication factor of two. if one of the servers went down, the current data in the ring, will get replicated twice in the singel server ? or it is per zone replication factor ? | 10:07 |
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kota_ | good morning | 12:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Mahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift master: Test coverage for reconstructor https://review.openstack.org/436522 | 12:55 |
timburke | good morning, kota_! | 12:55 |
kota_ | good morning timburke! it looks various liberasurecode talks in the last night? (you ware at bar though :P) | 12:57 |
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timburke | see, and everybody thought i was being anti-social... i was talking! just not to them :P | 12:58 |
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mahatic | hello! | 13:03 |
timburke | hi mahatic! | 13:03 |
kota_ | timburke: yeah, it should be good | 13:03 |
kota_ | mahatic: o/ | 13:03 |
timburke | i should probably go get breakfast... | 13:03 |
mahatic | from yesterday's convo, looks like "simple example: small XFS corruption and file gets lost" - no idea yet to fix this case ? | 13:03 |
mahatic | timburke: kota_ o/ | 13:03 |
mathiasb | good morning! | 13:03 |
kota_ | mathiasb: good morning! | 13:03 |
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notmyname | kota_: I hope that's a typo ;-) | 14:36 |
notmyname | dja: on the topic of libec and pyeclib futures, it's been talked about some this week already | 14:37 |
notmyname | dja: both tdasilva and clayg talked to -infra people about it, and I think the new plan is to *not* join the repos | 14:37 |
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kota_ | notmyname: oh, it's my typo with sitting :/ | 18:55 |
* kota_ is in the storlets room for now, will be back to the swift room | 18:56 | |
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openstackgerrit | Kota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift master: EC Fragment Duplication - Foundational Global EC Cluster Support https://review.openstack.org/219165 | 18:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power https://review.openstack.org/337297 | 19:23 |
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clayg | redbo: https://github.com/swiftstack/tsync | 19:41 |
clayg | kota_: we still need to talk about composite rings - but ... well I guess everyone is busy ftm | 19:42 |
notmyname | clayg: composite rings? https://www.carbon6rings.com | 19:43 |
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kota_ | clayg: sure, am... maybe will be back to swift room in a half hour | 19:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Alperovich proposed openstack/swift master: Expand SLO manifest documentation. https://review.openstack.org/437110 | 20:06 |
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gcb | I'm wondering if swiftstack folks are at the PTG, I'm in the room, would like to talk with someone from swiftstack :-) | 20:07 |
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pdardeau_ | clayg: can you tell us about tsync? | 20:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Jim Cheung proposed openstack/liberasurecode master: Add Phazr.IO libphazr backend to liberasurecode https://review.openstack.org/424353 | 20:30 |
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tdasilva | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/52/swift/common/middleware/symlink.py@181 | 20:58 |
patchbot | patch 232162 - swift - Symlink implementation. | 20:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power https://review.openstack.org/337297 | 21:06 |
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clayg | pdardeau_: i explained it to redbo? you should be here! ;) | 21:14 |
clayg | gcb: we're all in the swift room - did you find notmyname ? | 21:14 |
gcb | clayg, yea, just talked with him :-) thanks | 21:15 |
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clayg | timburke: nerd snipe lp bug #1667122 | 21:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1667122 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "object server logs wrong status code for 412" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667122 | 21:37 |
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timburke | clayg: like 99% of the time swift + 412 means we're doing *something* with wrong status codes. just going by title, this is *nothing* new | 21:39 |
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pdardeau_ | clayg: true that! hopefully i'll attend Boston | 21:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Increase SLO maximums https://review.openstack.org/437173 | 22:11 |
openstackgerrit | Christian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power https://review.openstack.org/337297 | 22:19 |
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timburke | mattoliverau: https://docs.python.org/2/library/time.html#time.tzset | 22:35 |
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timburke | mattoliverau: i think you wanted "UTC-11" instead of "UTC+11" which is just one more instance of how crazy it is working with time | 22:36 |
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timburke | "If preceded by a ‘-‘, the timezone is east of the Prime Meridian; otherwise, it is west." unlike *every other place you work with timezones* :-/ | 22:37 |
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garyj | kota_: hello kota | 23:21 |
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kota_ | Hello garyj | 23:26 |
garyj | How are you? We just uploaded a new patch for PhazrIO. | 23:27 |
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garyj | We merged your suggestions into the new code | 23:27 |
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