Friday, 2017-03-24

jrichlilast hasn't even been tested yet?00:22
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jrichlilooks good to me!00:25
jrichlitimburke: re: listing_formats.py - cool.  I guess this is gonna be a patch?00:26
timburkejrichli: maybe? we'll see how much time i feel like devoting to it ;-)00:27
kota_good morning01:04
kota_acoles: thanks for the comment update! will check out!01:05
timburkegood morning kota_!01:14
kota_good morning timburke!01:14
mattoliveraukota_: morning01:17
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timburke:-/ i just realized the problem with changing the listings like that -- we'll never be able to rip out the xml responses from the backend servers because we expect proxies to be upgraded last in a rolling upgrade01:29
timburkemight still be worth doing if we pursue mattoliverau's idea of putting the middleware in the backend pipelines too, though?01:30
mattoliverauyeah, so there would be an upgrade path. So that isn't too bad. And would clean up having to deal with listings in more then 1 place now.01:32
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tone_zGood morning!01:55
openstackgerritjunboli proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Remove py34 from envlist and its reference  https://review.openstack.org/44897801:55
mattoliverautone_z: morning02:00
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: WIP: Move listing formatting out to proxy middleware  https://review.openstack.org/44939402:00
tone_zmattorliverau: morning02:00
tone_zmattoliverau: morning!02:01
timburkewell, there's my crazy idea for the day. time to go home02:01
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openstackgerritjunboli proposed openstack/swift master: fixed get suffix of filename  https://review.openstack.org/44907702:46
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mattoliverautimburke: thanks, and nice work ;)02:49
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openstackgerritjunboli proposed openstack/swift master: Fixed get ring name from recon cli  https://review.openstack.org/44844906:19
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PavelKclayg: or anyone else: I wrote a bug report to explain patch 448480. If it is not clear, please help me with wording and complete what I might forget. Thanks08:34
PavelKpatchbot: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448480 Container/account disk drive error results double space usage on rest drives08:34
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acolesgood morning09:10
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kota_acoles: I tried patch 449310 prior to the node election and my thought for the composite ring builder is moving since yesterday. I left some comments on the patch 441921 for the movement of my thought.10:08
kota_acoles: please feel free to tell your opinion, I'm still thinking "what's the best way for us"10:08
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acoleskota_: thanks for looking at it.10:09
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acoleskota_: my goal was to provoke some discussion :) so I fully expect 449310 to change/be squashed - it was meant to help us think through the metadata questions10:11
acoleskota_: I'll look some more at both patches today10:11
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kota_acoles: thanks!10:16
acoleskota_: have a great weekend10:17
kota_acoles: you too10:17
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Test that Manager.reload does stop/start in that order  https://review.openstack.org/44956710:52
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acoleskota_: you still here?11:31
kota_o/11:32
acolesbut you shouldn't be11:32
acoles:)11:32
acolesSo I think a key point where maybe my patch confused you is: there are two concepts of a builder being the "same" as another ...11:33
acoles1. it is the same builder file11:33
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acoles2. it is the same builder file in the same state with same replica2part2dev11:34
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acolestest 2 *may* be satisfied by a version attr of the builder, or an md5 (except you found a problem with md5)11:35
acolestest 1 needs an builder attr that is immutable between dev changes, rebalance, which is why I suggested a UUID11:36
acoles...or we use path to builder file, but that seems brittle11:36
kota_acoles: correct, I'm sure with you11:36
kota_we should consider the two cases11:37
acolesmy patch 449310 had test 1 using md5 which was wrong11:37
acolespatchbot - where are you??11:37
acoleskota_: yep, we need to consider both11:37
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acoles449310 is currently focussed on case 1. using md5 was wrong. TBH I knew but ran out of time, sorry!11:39
kota_acoles: ok, got it. I was thinking so.11:39
acoleskota_: in my defence - you took away the builder.builder_file so all i had was the md5 ;)11:40
kota_oic11:41
acoleskota_: I m going to experiment with adding a UUID for case 1. I think we can continue to explore using an md5 of something for case2 or perhaps the existing version attr is sufficient? IDK11:41
kota_the fixed_metadata also is for addressing ccase 1?11:41
acolesyes11:41
kota_case11:41
kota_ok11:41
kota_perhaps, uuid + version would be sufficient, if the version number counted correctly11:42
kota_I'm not an expert for the ring management and how operator uses that.11:43
acolesmy first goal was to break apart the cases we need, next step was to figure out how best to represent them.11:43
acoleskota_: nor me!11:43
kota_how operators use the version number for their operation11:43
kota_lol11:43
acoleskota_: I think cschwede mentioned a previous discussion of epochs? could be that is another new attr we could explore11:44
kota_acoles: yes, we need to ask cschwede anyway11:44
kota_epochs sounds timestamp?11:45
acolesmaybe11:45
acoleskota_: ok, your weekend should have started! I think we're making progress. thanks11:47
kota_acoles: yeah, thanks, I was thinking about the next step for 441921 and 44931011:47
kota_i'm thinking squash 449310 up into 441921 makes us easy to discuss? not sure11:49
acolesmaybe squash, but i wanted to keep 449310 separate so you could see where I was going.11:49
acolesif you like it then we'll squash, but no rush - can do that early next week?11:49
kota_ok, and anyway, i need to update mine to remove redundant test11:49
kota_yes, definately11:49
acolesok I'll do another version of 449310, then we'll talk again next week, and look to squash11:50
kota_acoles: sounds good to me11:50
acolesk11:51
kota_thanks acoles!11:51
kota_and it seems good time to leave my office11:51
acoleskota_: go! now! :D11:52
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tdasilvagood morning12:01
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acolestdasilva: hehe you just missed kota_12:02
tdasilvaacoles: heh, i think by 10min, right12:02
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tdasilvahave a good weekend kota_ !12:02
tdasilvacrazy world12:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift master: Drop support for auth-server from common/manager  https://review.openstack.org/44927012:11
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tdasilvashould we kick dmorita?13:58
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tdasilvaseems like his client is having issues13:58
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tdasilva(/msg chanserv op #openstack-swift tdasilva14:21
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notmynamegood morning14:56
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acolesnotmyname: good morning15:02
tdasilvanotmyname: I guess dmorita is having issues with his client, but i guess just kicking him is not the solution...15:03
notmynametdasilva: many times it is the solution, though15:05
tdasilvanotmyname: i tried kicking him, but then his client will just join again, no?15:05
notmynamebut some clients have auto-join-when-kicked15:05
tdasilvaohhh15:05
notmynameyou can do a time-limited ban. normally that gets clients straightened out15:06
tdasilvanotmyname: ack15:13
notmynameever annoyed that you can't see the whole code file on one screen? never again! http://www.anandtech.com/show/11220/dells-32-inch-8k-up3218k-display-now-for-sale15:14
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notmynamebecause if there's one thing an 8K, 32", $5k monitor is good for, it's editing text files15:15
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acolesnotmyname: I'd take two but the bezel looks a little large for stacking them side by side ;)15:23
notmynamecompletely. unusable.15:23
acolesI like how the model number and prices are converging though15:24
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notmynameheh15:25
notmynameexperiences with writing a large golang project https://npf.io/2017/03/3.5yrs-500k-lines-of-go/15:27
notmynameok, coffee consumed and emails checked and important articles read, time to get ready and go to the office. I'll be back on later15:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift master: Document SAIO rsync service setup for ubuntu 16  https://review.openstack.org/44316216:12
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openstackgerritAlexandre Lécuyer proposed openstack/swift master: Modify _get_hashes() arguments to be more generic  https://review.openstack.org/44970916:20
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: WIP use composite ring metadata to prevent bad things  https://review.openstack.org/44931016:22
openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: Add Composite Ring Functionality  https://review.openstack.org/44192116:22
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acoleskota_: ^^ I took out that redundant test16:22
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873616:37
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/python-swiftclient master: Buffer reads from disk  https://review.openstack.org/44977118:19
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claygacoles: patch 438862 conflicts me - I did the same thing in the multi-proc-reconstructor rework ... so ... thanks?  :)19:45
claygpatchbot: p 438862 myabe?19:45
claygpatch 43886219:45
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/438862/ - swift - Small fixes for ec duplication (MERGED)19:45
claygoic, fine19:45
notmynameclayg: nah, that's my fault. bug in the regex19:54
claygnotmyname: isn't it always sort of (bug)+ in the regex20:17
notmynametest20:18
notmynameclayg: test20:18
notmynamepatchbot: test20:18
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notmynamepatchbot: reload foo20:21
patchbotnotmyname: foo: not loaded, try the `load` command20:21
notmynamereload foo20:21
notmyname.reload foo20:21
notmynamepatchbot: reload ALL THE THINGS20:21
patchbotnotmyname: done20:21
notmynamepatchbot: reload patchbot20:21
patchbotnotmyname: <module 'patchbot' from '/home/ubuntu/.sopel/modules/patchbot.pyc'> (version: 2017-03-23 23:20:16)20:21
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notmynameclayg: looks like saying "patch 12345" when addressed to someone works now. as does patch 345345.20:43
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/12345/ - neutron - Update with latest code from openstack-common (sta... (MERGED)20:43
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/345345/ - senlin-dashboard - show cluster info in node detail page (MERGED)20:43
notmynamewith a period20:43
claygnotmyname: wtg patch 44956720:44
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/449567/ - swift - Test that Manager.reload does stop/start in that o...20:44
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: WIP: Move listing formatting out to proxy middleware  https://review.openstack.org/44939420:45
timburkei *think* that should sort out some tempest failures. we maybe ought to have our own func tests that check that /v1/AUTH_test?format=xml produces the same output as /v1/AUTH_test/?format=xml20:47
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notmynamemattoliverau: I think http://logs.openstack.org/54/448854/2/check/gate-swift-tox-xfs-tmp-py27-ubuntu-xenial/2b4baf0/console.html#_2017-03-24_03_19_36_380724 looks odd (on patch 448854)21:13
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/448854/ - swift (stable/newton) - Fix timing test error when rebalancing21:13
notmynamemattoliverau: and timburke tells me he's seen something like that in the stable failures before21:13
notmynamebut I think it's odd that a container create in a setup() is getting 202 instead of 201. is it not getting cleaned up on a previous test? is the random source not good enough and giving duplicate values?21:14
timburkehttp://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-swift-python27-newton/aa54677/console.html#_2017-03-15_06_13_23_24377021:15
timburkeand maybe http://logs.openstack.org/periodic-stable/periodic-swift-python27-newton/687f8d9/console.html#_2017-03-18_06_07_09_191064 ? that one's more iffy21:15
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notmynamehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/449824/ is for the logged request backport to ocata21:48
patchbotpatch 449824 - swift (stable/ocata) - Log the correct request type of a subrequest downs...21:48
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kota_acoles: thx! Will see22:14
kota_tdasilva: i'll try to ask dmorita via local messager to stop the issue22:16
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mattoliveraunotmyname: yeah I noticed that, more investigation required, and probably a follow up patch I guess.22:58
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openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: Add multiprocessing worker to reconstructor  https://review.openstack.org/44335623:02
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notmynametimburke: ok, so what is it doing? if it detects what would otherwise be a listing request, it gets the referenced object (if 404, generate the listing)23:33
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notmynametimburke: so if static web is far left, then it can get the untransformed listing?23:35
notmynameor is the question around if the listing type mutator should be to the left or right of staticweb?23:35
timburkeyeah, but if we move static web left, the extra GETs need to go through auth again23:36
notmynameisn't that why we have pre-auth'd subrequests?23:36
notmynameor are those still for right-of-auth stuff?23:36
timburkelisting type mutator should be as far left as we can possibly manage, imo23:37
notmynameleft of staticweb?23:37
timburkei'm not sure you can have a left-of-auth pre-authed subrequest. even if you could, i'd be worried that we'd start exposing information about whether objects are present in a container you can't read23:38
notmynameyeah, and ultimately, that's an undocumented api for turning off auth. let's not do that ;-)23:39
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timburkeso i want to leave staticweb where it is right of auth (i trust that we've beat most of the security bugs out of that particular config), and have listing left of auth so it can be useful for as many middlewares as possible23:41
notmynameok, so if the type mutator is left of staticweb (tm->auth->staticweb), then the problem is what happens when staticweb (or anything?) returns a json body that looks like a json listing?23:41
notmyname(or worse, json-like-but-not-really)23:41
notmynameis that the trick?23:43
notmynameif so, then what about the container server decorating the response with "this is a listing response"?23:44
notmynameor is the issue for any other middleware to know if the json-ish is a listing or not23:44
notmyname?23:44
timburkesuppose it's a file with application/json content type that's 5GB. i'm still trying to decide which is worse: have it be not-at-all-json, mostly-json except for that syntax error 4.5GB in, or perfectly-valid-json that doesn't look like a container listing23:46
notmynametm->foo->auth->staticweb  ===>>> what does foo middleware see when there's a container listing request?23:46
timburkedepends on staticweb config!23:47
notmynameif staticweb doesn't do anything, it's relatively easy23:47
notmynameif staticweb resolves it to another object, still might be easy to indicate that23:47
notmynameif staticweb generates a listing of the body, still not too bad? because it decorates or undecorates the response to make it jsut like an object body?23:48
notmynameI guess i'm thinking the tm middleware and the container(?) server will have some sort of signal to say "this is a listing response"23:48
notmynameor rather, the container(?) server decorates the response like that, and staticweb either  removes it, leaves it, and tm acts if it's present23:49
notmynamespeaking of being present, I need to be present at home :-)23:49
openstackgerritClay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: Add multiprocessing worker to reconstructor  https://review.openstack.org/44335623:55
timburkeso we need a new marker to indicate that "yes, this is an honest-to-god container listing" and we need any middleware that cares about container listings to know about it, when the only reason that we might get a non-container-listing 2xx response for a container-like request is staticweb? it seems... unnecessary. i'd still kinda prefer to have staticweb have some configurable whitelist of allowed content-types and if the object has s23:59
timburkeomething else, force it to something sensible like text/html -- it's static*web* not static*api-response*23:59

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