| mattoliver | good morning / afternoon / evening | 07:00 |
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| cschwede | Hello o/ | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | Are we ready for a swift meeting? I need to run away to a birthday dinner, so can't take too long today. Lucky most topics are informational.. so no stress | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | oh hey cschwede let's start then :) | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | #startmeeting swift | 07:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jul 16 07:01:32 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattoliver. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | whose here for the swift meeting | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | As always the agenda is at.. | 07:01 |
| mattoliver | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 07:02 |
| mattoliver | I was away last week on vacation so also haven't done much Swift stuff, so mostly info and a checkin with cschwede :) | 07:02 |
| mattoliver | #topic Bug triage | 07:02 |
| mattoliver | I've seen a bunch of bug emails | 07:03 |
| mattoliver | So you've been busy cschwede :) | 07:03 |
| cschwede | Jupp, got back to some triaging earlier today. And rabbit holes! Was checking some bugs and code and this took way more time than expected... | 07:03 |
| cschwede | Not sure if this strategy is sustainable. | 07:04 |
| cschwede | During the triage I stumbled upon https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/2058945 - this looks annoying, and looking at the linked issue it seems still not resolved. Anybody else seen this? | 07:04 |
| mattoliver | yeah, dont push it too hard. Maybe we should all be taking a peice of the work. | 07:05 |
| mattoliver | oh thats an interesting one. We have been having trouble in the past with high accep queues which starts to give timeouts to clients. | 07:06 |
| mattoliver | maybe somewhat related. | 07:06 |
| mattoliver | a bad client if they're doing pipelined requests slowly can also hold up a max_clients slot | 07:07 |
| mattoliver | I'll repond to the bug with what we ran into in the hopes its similar and we can lock something down. | 07:08 |
| cschwede | Thanks, that would be great! | 07:09 |
| mattoliver | Checking the proxy accept queues is good practice when proxies or client requests start timing out.. I really should get the SO_TIMESPAMPING patch finished/landed :) | 07:09 |
| mattoliver | Keep up the good work cschwede and feel free to take a break from it if required. We should all probably be working through this backlog | 07:10 |
| mattoliver | #topic eventlet removal POC update | 07:10 |
| mattoliver | cschwede: I assume you've been stuck down other rabbit holes :P | 07:11 |
| mattoliver | Eventlet removal is a topic that comes up a bit here at Nvidia. | 07:11 |
| cschwede | Yes, but still making slow progress. Though I also started to look into the object-server - we chatted about starting with the object-server first at the last PTG as well | 07:12 |
| mattoliver | kk | 07:12 |
| mattoliver | well if there is anything we can help with then let us know | 07:13 |
| mattoliver | I might need to speed up, getting looks from the family :P | 07:13 |
| cschwede | sure, will do! | 07:13 |
| mattoliver | #topic October vPTG | 07:13 |
| mattoliver | Just a reminder that another virtual PTG is coming up in Oct | 07:14 |
| mattoliver | Oct 27-31 | 07:14 |
| mattoliver | #link https://ptg.openinfra.org/ | 07:14 |
| mattoliver | timburke or I will make sure there is an etherpad to start gathering topics. | 07:15 |
| mattoliver | Already another one coming means I need to get my butt into gear and work on some of my projects :) | 07:15 |
| mattoliver | #topic aws-chunked | 07:15 |
| mattoliver | We need to make sure more of this chain is landed BEFORE the next upstream release | 07:16 |
| mattoliver | Because we don't want to release a half baked (even though it works) solution. | 07:16 |
| mattoliver | We should at least get the crc64-nvme stuff landed | 07:17 |
| mattoliver | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/946141 | 07:17 |
| mattoliver | jianjian has been reviewing and looking at this chain, so thanks! | 07:17 |
| mattoliver | I need to dig back in too. Esp now that I'm back from vacation. | 07:17 |
| mattoliver | #topic 2026.1 codename: Gazpacho | 07:18 |
| mattoliver | Speaking on the next upstream release, we have a name for it | 07:18 |
| mattoliver | #link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/QVZK5PFN233WNDX764B2NZ4W65U27FF4/ | 07:18 |
| mattoliver | Not much else to add there.. | 07:19 |
| mattoliver | #topic New ISA-L backend for liberasurecode | 07:19 |
| mattoliver | This one is interesting | 07:19 |
| mattoliver | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/liberasurecode/+/954285 | 07:19 |
| mattoliver | Similar to isa_l_rs_vand / isa_l_rs_cauchy split, the only difference is the encoding matrix (which is then used to compute the wider encoding tables) | 07:20 |
| mattoliver | Related to Vandermonde matrices, but should avoid non-invertiblity | 07:20 |
| cschwede | Interesting! | 07:20 |
| mattoliver | The bug seems to indicate the isa_l_rs_vand can have issues with parties > 5 | 07:20 |
| mattoliver | So I think once this lands in liberasurecode we probably should add some kind of warning in swift if people use the current isa_l_rs_vand with > 5 parity | 07:21 |
| mattoliver | Let me paste more of Tims awesome discriptions from the agenda | 07:21 |
| cschwede | Isnt' that already the case, mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/liberasurecode/+bug/1639691 | 07:21 |
| mattoliver | Related to Vandermonde matrices, but should avoid non-invertiblity problem from https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639691 | 07:21 |
| mattoliver | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639691 | 07:22 |
| cschwede | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/468105 | 07:22 |
| * cschwede should use #link more often. | 07:22 | |
| mattoliver | oh nice | 07:22 |
| mattoliver | so already done.. and I+2ed it.. I fail at memory :P | 07:23 |
| mattoliver | Tim says: Seems to match encoding matrix used elsewhere, eg https://github.com/tahoe-lafs/zfec/blob/zfec-1.6.0.0/zfec/fec.c#L430-L479 | 07:23 |
| mattoliver | #link https://github.com/tahoe-lafs/zfec/blob/zfec-1.6.0.0/zfec/fec.c#L430-L479 | 07:23 |
| mattoliver | But the pressing question, other then testing and landing it is what name we should give it? | 07:24 |
| mattoliver | isa_l_rs_vand_inv? isa_l_rs_vand2? | 07:24 |
| mattoliver | if its backward compat with < 5 parity maybe replace.. but that might not be possible. | 07:24 |
| mattoliver | _inv might not mean much to people. maybe 2 is better. | 07:25 |
| mattoliver | Anything feel free to weigh in in the patch :) | 07:25 |
| mattoliver | That's all I got | 07:25 |
| mattoliver | #topic open discussion | 07:25 |
| mattoliver | I've still got a bunch of patches in the air.. but need to revisit them to see where they're at and I'm in a rush tonight.. so I got nothing else :P | 07:26 |
| cschwede | Nothing else from my side as well today. Thanks Matt for running this! | 07:28 |
| mattoliver | Cool, nps. | 07:28 |
| mattoliver | I'll call it then. Thanks for coming and thanks for working on Swift | 07:28 |
| mattoliver | cschwede: so glad you catch up with you more regularly now! | 07:29 |
| mattoliver | #endmeeting | 07:29 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jul 16 07:29:04 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:29 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2025/swift.2025-07-16-07.01.html | 07:29 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2025/swift.2025-07-16-07.01.txt | 07:29 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/swift/2025/swift.2025-07-16-07.01.log.html | 07:29 |
| acoles | sorry I missed the early meeting, I had other commitments | 10:08 |
| opendevreview | Shreeya Deshpande proposed openstack/swift master: proxy-logging: Add real-time transfer bytes counters https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930918 | 15:48 |
| opendevreview | Shreeya Deshpande proposed openstack/swift master: Provide some s3 helper methods for other middlewares to use. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/940791 | 15:48 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/mpu: WIP: use version history to detect orphans https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/950689 | 16:09 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/swift master: s3api: add compat test sending too much body with checksum https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/954640 | 16:24 |
| opendevreview | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift master: s3api: Add support for crc64nvme checksum calculation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/946141 | 16:52 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/swift master: s3api: add more assertions w.r.t. S3 checksum BadDigest https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/954641 | 17:32 |
| opendevreview | Vitaly Bordyug proposed openstack/swift master: proxy-logging: create new field for s3_access_key_id https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/955225 | 18:31 |
| opendevreview | Vitaly Bordyug proposed openstack/swift master: proxy-logging: create new field for s3_access_key_id https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/955225 | 18:33 |
| opendevreview | Shreeya Deshpande proposed openstack/swift master: Provide some s3 helper methods for other middlewares to use. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/940791 | 20:46 |
| opendevreview | Shreeya Deshpande proposed openstack/swift master: proxy-logging: Add real-time transfer bytes counters https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/930918 | 20:47 |
| opendevreview | ASHWIN A NAIR proposed openstack/swift master: swift-manage-expirer: add CLI with summary, details, balance, rebalance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/953486 | 22:17 |
| opendevreview | ASHWIN A NAIR proposed openstack/swift master: swift-manage-expirer: add CLI with summary, details, balance, rebalance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/953486 | 22:46 |
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