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gema | o/ | 16:58 |
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gema | #startmeeting tailgate | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 1 17:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tailgate' | 17:00 |
gema | #topic rollcall | 17:00 |
gema | anyone around? | 17:00 |
spyderdyne | tailgate | 17:01 |
jasonsb_ | hi | 17:01 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:01 |
gema | hi y'all :D | 17:01 |
gema | let's give a few mins in case someone else joins | 17:01 |
gema | unless you are in a hurry? | 17:01 |
spyderdyne | no hurry | 17:01 |
spyderdyne | i'm hourly | 17:02 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:02 |
gema | lol | 17:02 |
jasonsb_ | i'm hourly too | 17:02 |
jasonsb_ | work one hour | 17:02 |
jasonsb_ | take rest day off | 17:02 |
gema | haha | 17:02 |
jasonsb_ | opps, thats logged | 17:02 |
gema | jasonsb_: we all took it as joke | 17:02 |
jasonsb_ | now they know | 17:02 |
gema | :P | 17:02 |
gema | jose-idar: around? | 17:03 |
gema | ok, we are going to get going | 17:04 |
gema | #topic Last week's actions | 17:04 |
gema | jasonb to figure out the mechanics of getting endpoints and gurumeditationreport and maybe create a simple script that does this | 17:04 |
gema | jasonsb_: did you get to it this week? | 17:04 |
jasonsb_ | nope | 17:04 |
gema | #action jasonb to figure out the mechanics of getting endpoints and gurumeditationreport and maybe create a simple script that does this | 17:04 |
gema | ok, I am going to carry over malini and jose-idar's | 17:05 |
gema | #ACTION malini to try to write a test with tempest-lib that spins a VM and destroys is, as a POC | 17:05 |
gema | #ACTION jose-idar to start a spec for component tests for nova (user side, no admin), so we can all contribute cases and maybe implement them at some point , but at least start to get organised | 17:05 |
gema | and three mine that are not directly related to tokyo | 17:05 |
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gema | #ACTION gema to continue with the strategy doc | 17:05 |
gema | #ACTION gema to write a blog post about refstack-client running | 17:05 |
gema | #ACTION gema to send out the defcore details on actionable gaps | 17:05 |
gema | #topic ODS Talk | 17:05 |
gema | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tailgaters-tokyo-summit-talk | 17:06 |
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gema | jasonsb_: I see you've added some stuff | 17:06 |
jasonsb_ | i have | 17:06 |
jasonsb_ | still working out what I can add to the conversation | 17:06 |
gema | ok | 17:06 |
gema | I think talking in person will help | 17:07 |
gema | as long as we have a few slides that we can use in the event they call us suddenly | 17:07 |
gema | I haven't added our part | 17:07 |
gema | spyderdyne: ? | 17:07 |
jasonsb_ | do you have a google doc for your piece? | 17:07 |
gema | nope, not either | 17:07 |
jasonsb_ | i think you had mentioned goog doc | 17:07 |
jasonsb_ | ok np | 17:07 |
spyderdyne | yes? | 17:07 |
spyderdyne | sry | 17:07 |
gema | I wanted to create a google doc presentation | 17:07 |
gema | spyderdyne: you still need to add content to the presentation, right? | 17:08 |
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spyderdyne | i can add some stuff | 17:08 |
spyderdyne | it looks like i wont be able to attend now | 17:08 |
spyderdyne | but i am here for support | 17:08 |
spyderdyne | whatever you need | 17:09 |
gema | ok, so you are in teh same situation as clee | 17:09 |
jasonsb_ | you can't go? | 17:09 |
jasonsb_ | :( | 17:09 |
spyderdyne | i am | 17:09 |
gema | I spoke to him and he won't be in tokyo | 17:09 |
spyderdyne | i thought i was going but they told me no at the last minute | 17:09 |
gema | I wonder what happens in these cases | 17:09 |
spyderdyne | if i can provide any assistance i will be happy to | 17:10 |
gema | spyderdyne: I am still expecting someone to tell me not to go x) | 17:10 |
spyderdyne | but i wont be on site to present | 17:10 |
gema | spyderdyne: I mean it can happen | 17:10 |
jasonsb_ | i was looking forward to strategizing in person | 17:10 |
spyderdyne | yeah, it would be much better | 17:10 |
gema | spyderdyne: will you be in the next one? | 17:10 |
spyderdyne | we could still run a webex tho | 17:10 |
gema | I think it is austin | 17:11 |
spyderdyne | i will be at the next one | 17:11 |
gema | coolio, I don't know about that one yet, we'll see | 17:11 |
gema | anyway, I think we need to decide what to do bearing in mind two of our speakers won't be present | 17:11 |
gema | spyderdyne: have you informed the openstack people? | 17:11 |
gema | as in , telling them you won't be tehre in response to their email | 17:12 |
gema | asking for phone number and stuff | 17:13 |
spyderdyne | i havent registered, is that adequate? | 17:15 |
spyderdyne | i can respond if you think i should | 17:15 |
gema | if you didn't answer to the email they sent stating that they wanted you to confirm assistance, I guess you are good | 17:15 |
gema | but I think we should ask them , if we are two speakers down, can we still be called? | 17:15 |
spyderdyne | im sure you can be called until you tell them you cant present | 17:16 |
gema | ok | 17:16 |
spyderdyne | i wish we knew how many alternates were called last summit | 17:16 |
gema | indeed | 17:17 |
gema | jasonsb_: thoughts? | 17:17 |
gema | ok, in any case, I would like that you and clee give us input in the overall presentation and also in the common areas | 17:17 |
gema | so that we are all in sync in the message | 17:18 |
jasonsb_ | opps | 17:18 |
jasonsb_ | snoozing | 17:18 |
jasonsb_ | we can reach out to the contacts | 17:19 |
jasonsb_ | and get their guidance | 17:19 |
jasonsb_ | if we have quorum we are fine | 17:19 |
gema | coolio | 17:19 |
jasonsb_ | but i'm not sure if we have? | 17:19 |
gema | what is quorum, agreement? | 17:19 |
jasonsb_ | enough speakers | 17:20 |
gema | soo far we have 3 out of however many we were | 17:20 |
jasonsb_ | or speaker proxies | 17:20 |
gema | speakers more | 17:20 |
gema | 5 | 17:20 |
gema | yeah, if someone from cisco and dreamhost were there to represent you two in case we have to present, that'd be also an option | 17:20 |
jasonsb_ | if one of us can give sppyderdynes piece then maybe its fine? | 17:20 |
gema | or that | 17:20 |
spyderdyne | sure | 17:20 |
jasonsb_ | somebody from cisco/dreamhost is better | 17:21 |
gema | jasonsb_: even better, we could all present each other's stuff | 17:21 |
gema | that means we have understood what the others are doing | 17:21 |
gema | and we can talk about each other's work | 17:21 |
gema | but that'll require a bit more preparation | 17:21 |
spyderdyne | im asking around to see if i can find a proxy | 17:22 |
gema | spyderdyne: ok, you can let us know, I will ask clee for the same | 17:22 |
gema | and see if we get a proxy for each | 17:22 |
gema | the rest of actions we had were about the presentation | 17:23 |
jasonsb_ | did spyderdyne get a repo? | 17:23 |
gema | no idea | 17:24 |
gema | we can talk about his project now | 17:24 |
gema | let me summarize what is left of the actions for the presentation | 17:24 |
spyderdyne | i just added some stuff | 17:25 |
gema | #action gema to talk to clee and see if he can get someone from dreamhost present in tokyo in case we have to present | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | i didnt get a repo | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | just have a web server for now | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | still working on it | 17:25 |
gema | #action all, to continue working on the presentation | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | #Cisco Systems- Openstack Mythos Project (Scale Testing) - Odin (Rally Wrapper) - Medusa (Instance and Network Testing) - Janus (Cleanup Scripting) - Mania (Sanity Testing) | 17:25 |
gema | spyderdyne: you said you wanted to share something or show us something | 17:26 |
gema | right? | 17:26 |
spyderdyne | i need to complete my docs | 17:26 |
gema | do you want us to have a webex or a hangout next week? | 17:26 |
gema | and we can talk about the talk and about your project | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | then i can work with whoever is able to present | 17:27 |
gema | spyderdyne: ok | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | will try to find someone from my org, if not can work with one of you | 17:27 |
jasonsb_ | i think we should make a stackforge | 17:27 |
gema | jasonsb_: what's wrong with github? | 17:27 |
jasonsb_ | because spyerdyne | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | i could work with a stackforge | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | or git | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | git preferred | 17:27 |
spyderdyne | lots of folks are abandoning stackforge | 17:28 |
gema | yep, if you put it on github we can always move it to the official project when we have it | 17:28 |
jasonsb_ | or straight to openstack | 17:28 |
jasonsb_ | ok sure | 17:28 |
gema | jasonsb_: can we commit to openstack? | 17:28 |
spyderdyne | rackspace moved to ansible, at&t is just using chef to bootstrap puppet/mirantis now | 17:28 |
jasonsb_ | i think straight to openstack then | 17:28 |
spyderdyne | can someone figure out how to get a space for me? | 17:29 |
gema | a space for you where? | 17:29 |
gema | openstack? | 17:29 |
jasonsb_ | i think make a launchpad | 17:29 |
spyderdyne | wherever | 17:29 |
jasonsb_ | #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 17:29 |
jasonsb_ | old though | 17:29 |
spyderdyne | launchpad is fine | 17:29 |
spyderdyne | to get started | 17:29 |
gema | then put it in launchpad | 17:29 |
gema | I can make us a team | 17:29 |
spyderdyne | we just need some place to put stuff | 17:29 |
spyderdyne | ok | 17:29 |
jasonsb_ | Note: All projects should use the openstack/ namespace regardless of whether they are or intend to become official OpenStack projects. | 17:29 |
jasonsb_ | sounds pretty inclusive | 17:30 |
spyderdyne | how do we get a spot in there? | 17:30 |
gema | https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate | 17:30 |
gema | so, gimme a few lp ids | 17:30 |
gema | and I will add you | 17:30 |
gema | we can then create projects and make this team the maintainer | 17:31 |
gema | or just have a few branches on the team itself | 17:31 |
gema | spyderdyne: do you have a launchpad id? | 17:31 |
spyderdyne | i do | 17:31 |
spyderdyne | pretty sure its spyderdyne | 17:31 |
spyderdyne | verifying | 17:32 |
jasonsb_ | https://launchpad.net/~jason-bishop | 17:32 |
spyderdyne | https://launchpad.net/~spyderdyne | 17:32 |
gema | ok, I added you | 17:32 |
gema | I have left it open | 17:32 |
gema | so anyone can join, I think | 17:32 |
spyderdyne | good deal | 17:32 |
gema | if it gets out of hand, we can always moderate it | 17:32 |
gema | I will make you two admins | 17:33 |
gema | because I can xD | 17:33 |
spyderdyne | i see the memebership | 17:33 |
gema | that way we share admin tasks if there is ever any | 17:33 |
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beisner | o/ | 17:33 |
gema | beisner: ! | 17:33 |
jasonsb_ | wheee | 17:34 |
beisner | ./!\ | 17:34 |
beisner | who is this guy | 17:34 |
spyderdyne | I'm a real boy now! | 17:34 |
spyderdyne | lol | 17:34 |
gema | x) | 17:34 |
jasonsb_ | spyderdyne, if you up for it, if we could post your code in repo | 17:34 |
jasonsb_ | i think that would be really nice | 17:34 |
spyderdyne | will do | 17:35 |
gema | spyderdyne: excellent, thanks | 17:35 |
spyderdyne | i have lots of making things friendly to do now :) | 17:35 |
gema | #action everyone to join the launchpad team that we created to host code: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate | 17:35 |
gema | #link https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate | 17:35 |
spyderdyne | and maybe 20 copies of the apache license to paste | 17:35 |
gema | ok, so what do we do next week | 17:36 |
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gema | irc meeting or video? | 17:36 |
spyderdyne | lets webex | 17:36 |
spyderdyne | or gchat | 17:37 |
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gema | spyderdyne: ok | 17:37 |
gema | spyderdyne: I will send a link to a hangout to the mailing | 17:37 |
spyderdyne | ok | 17:37 |
gema | I doubt we'll reach critical mass anyway | 17:37 |
spyderdyne | probably not | 17:37 |
gema | #link https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/openstack-tailgate | 17:38 |
gema | there you go, our meeting room | 17:38 |
gema | :) | 17:38 |
gema | oh, maybe I will need to create a public one | 17:38 |
gema | nevermind, will do that | 17:38 |
gema | #action gema to create a public hangout for next week's meeting | 17:39 |
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jasonsb | gema before i forget, when do you arrive? | 17:39 |
gema | jasonsb: monday morning | 17:40 |
jasonsb | nice | 17:40 |
gema | you? | 17:40 |
jasonsb | 3pm | 17:40 |
gema | yeah, I will probably be shopping by that time | 17:41 |
gema | I arrive at 9:30 | 17:41 |
gema | am | 17:41 |
beisner | i think i arrive sun mid-afternoon | 17:41 |
gema | beisner: well done | 17:42 |
gema | you'll have time to see stuff :) | 17:42 |
jasonsb | wish i was going to be there earlier now | 17:42 |
jasonsb | i'll be there all fri tho | 17:42 |
gema | yep, me too | 17:42 |
gema | but we'll have work to do on friday | 17:43 |
gema | I hope :D | 17:43 |
jasonsb | there is also defcore | 17:43 |
gema | yes | 17:43 |
gema | jasonsb: did you make it to their meeting yesterday? | 17:43 |
jasonsb | sorry, didn't mean to hijack your convo | 17:43 |
jasonsb | i was there | 17:44 |
jasonsb | but only last half | 17:44 |
gema | #topic defcore | 17:44 |
gema | ok, and what did you get from it? | 17:44 |
jasonsb | generally the state of the api's | 17:44 |
jasonsb | even glance v1 vs v2 is a problem | 17:45 |
jasonsb | there is alot of work to do | 17:45 |
jasonsb | i think rally is still on v1 | 17:45 |
gema | yeah, there are compatiblity conversations ongoing, but that is good | 17:46 |
jasonsb | this is good | 17:46 |
gema | people have to have a good reason to move to a newer api | 17:46 |
jasonsb | but for interop, there is a long way to go | 17:46 |
gema | jasonsb: yes | 17:47 |
jasonsb | (this is fine) | 17:47 |
gema | yes | 17:47 |
gema | ok, fair enough | 17:47 |
gema | is there anything else you want to discuss? | 17:48 |
jasonsb | i don't have whole defcore convo in my head yet | 17:48 |
jasonsb | still picking up | 17:48 |
gema | jasonsb: it takes time | 17:48 |
gema | plus, I don't think any single person except for Chris maybe, has it | 17:48 |
gema | ok, calling it a day then | 17:49 |
gema | #endmeeting | 17:49 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 1 17:49:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:49 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.html | 17:49 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.txt | 17:49 |
jasonsb | thank you for making launchpad | 17:49 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-10-01-17.00.log.html | 17:49 |
gema | thank you all for coming | 17:51 |
jasonsb | thank you for making launchpad | 17:53 |
jasonsb | how to make git repo? | 17:53 |
jasonsb | i'll look | 17:53 |
gema | jasonsb: I am not sure you can, you use bzr | 17:53 |
gema | is launchpad compatible with git already? | 17:53 |
jasonsb | sorry | 17:53 |
jasonsb | meant to get a openstack/tailgate repo | 17:54 |
gema | https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git | 17:54 |
jasonsb | i think we have to submit a gerrit for that | 17:54 |
gema | it can be git | 17:54 |
gema | jasonsb: the default tool is bzr | 17:54 |
gema | but I'd like to see some git there as well | 17:54 |
gema | :D | 17:54 |
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jasonsb | let me see too | 17:55 |
gema | jasonsb: I can create a project as well and link them together | 17:58 |
gema | that'll make pushing easier | 17:58 |
gema | unless people mess it up | 17:58 |
gema | (which is easy) | 17:58 |
jasonsb | sounds good | 17:58 |
gema | what license for the code? | 18:00 |
gema | what license is openstack? | 18:00 |
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jasonsb | apache 2 | 18:03 |
jasonsb | but its a question for the person writing the code | 18:03 |
jasonsb | if you want in openstack i think it has to be apache2 | 18:03 |
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gema | jasonsb: https://launchpad.net/openstack-tailgate | 18:05 |
gema | can you see if you can change details? | 18:05 |
gema | for some reason it doesn't let me make the team the maintainer | 18:05 |
gema | I think launchpad hasn't propagated all the info yet | 18:05 |
gema | jasonsb: I am making it git | 18:06 |
jasonsb | i have a change-details button | 18:06 |
gema | good then we are set | 18:06 |
gema | whenever I can I will change the maintainer or talk to my friends in the launchpad team | 18:06 |
gema | xD | 18:07 |
jasonsb | i can change description so i think its working | 18:07 |
gema | (sigh, another launchpad bug) | 18:07 |
jasonsb | bug? | 18:07 |
jasonsb | looks ok for me | 18:07 |
gema | jasonsb: ok | 18:07 |
gema | jasonsb: I wanted to make our team the maintainer | 18:07 |
gema | not me | 18:07 |
gema | x) | 18:07 |
jasonsb | oh | 18:07 |
gema | jasonsb: don't worry, I will sort it out | 18:08 |
gema | if you can edit stuff that's good | 18:08 |
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clee | hey guys | 18:32 |
clee | sorry I missed the meeting this morning! | 18:32 |
jasonsb | clee: hallo | 19:00 |
jasonsb | you can make up for it by presenting in tokyo | 19:00 |
jasonsb | :) | 19:02 |
clee | haha, I wish | 19:14 |
clee | I can't make it to tokyo :/ | 19:14 |
jasonsb | :( | 19:20 |
jasonsb | https://launchpad.net/~openstack-tailgate | 19:20 |
jasonsb | we have launchpad and repo | 19:20 |
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