Thursday, 2015-12-17

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gemao/17:02
gema#startmeeting tailgate17:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 17 17:03:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tailgate'17:03
spyderdynehello everyone17:03
gemao/17:03
malinio/17:03
hockeynuto/17:05
hockeynutin a video meeting as well - multitasking :-)17:05
gemahockeynut: well done :D17:05
gemaspyderdyne: any developments on your side?17:06
spyderdynestill tweaking.17:06
spyderdyneup to 5,000 concurrent scale instances now17:06
gemaawesome17:07
spyderdyneshould have siege results this afternoon17:07
gemaI am still working on my project and haven't managed to publish it yet17:08
gemabut basically it is a REST api that runs on the openstack side + a jenkins plugin that can spin independent test environment17:08
gemabe able to test openstack on openstack17:08
maliniwhat are you using to spin up the test env?17:09
gemajenkins asks the rest api for a slave17:09
gemaand this slave is an openstack tenant17:09
gemacreated/removed on the fly17:09
gemaon demand, basically17:10
malinicool17:10
gemafunnily enough it is taking me longer to make the whole project a nice packaged thing that it took to get it working17:10
gemabut I am getting there17:10
gemaand writing documentation as well17:10
gemathis is aimed at functional testing, though17:11
maliniit always takes longer to package it :)17:11
gemamalini: thanks for the encouragement :D17:11
gemamalini: do you have anything to report?17:11
malininope17:11
spyderdyneit definitely takes a long time t package things17:11
spyderdyne:)17:11
gema\o/17:12
gemaI feel less useless now x)17:12
gemahockeynut: anything from you?17:12
hockeynutnothing new from me - been getting all educated on neutron/lbaas for my next assignment17:12
dmelladoHi everyone, new to the project and attending the qa meeting at the same time17:13
gemadmellado: o/ welcome :)17:13
dmelladobut trying to understadnd the scope from this xD17:13
gemadmellado: let me get you a link17:13
gema#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tailgaters17:13
gemadmellado: we are still trying to find our place, but we are essentially a bunch of QA people from different integrators collaborating to make the testing less redundant17:14
dmelladothanks gema, I read that but thought it was a little bit high level17:14
dmelladoisn't it?17:14
gemadmellado: it is17:14
malinidmellado: at this point, we are just brain dumping each other with what we do :)17:15
dmelladoxD17:15
spyderdynetesting beyond the gate…17:15
gema#link https://code.launchpad.net/openstack-tailgate17:15
spyderdynethe code gate17:15
gemadmellado: and we have mythos which has been contributed by spyderdyne17:15
dmelladois that one another kind of testing framework?17:15
gemaessentially test code that aims at scale testing17:15
gemaspyderdyne: will you do the honors?17:16
spyderdynesure17:16
spyderdyneim looking for the presentation link17:17
gema#link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1eHrWk2xmooJY1exe-ddRsDebkXQcAMLklkIuH0wTEL0/edit#slide=id.ge43b425a7_0_217:18
gemadmellado: we were alternate for tokyo and they never called us17:19
spyderdyneyeah, that one17:19
gemabut we have a presentation as a result of that17:19
dmelladonice!17:19
spyderdynewe currently have a launchpad repo containing the mythos project17:19
gemait may help understand where we are coming from17:19
spyderdynenothign else contributed yet17:19
spyderdynemythos contains features to spawn server and client scale testing images for deployment to the cloud17:20
dmelladothe point about not reinventing the wheel it's fair enough for me xD17:20
gemawell, there are other tools from the different companies that are opensource17:20
spyderdynethere are17:20
spyderdyneand none of them agree17:20
gemaspyderdyne: agree with what?17:21
spyderdyneeach other17:21
spyderdyne:)17:21
gemawell, we basically don't have any resources so far17:21
gemawhat people have managed to do on their own time17:21
gemaand well, spyderdyne17:21
maliniAlso, folks have invested a lot in what they already have17:21
* beisner waves17:22
gemabeisner: o/17:22
spyderdyne;)17:22
spyderdyneim the only one who has shared so far17:22
spyderdyne:)17:22
* beisner shares: juju, maas, ubuntu, charms :D17:23
spyderdyneof course, we decided that Rally was not to be trusted since the same test on the same system 3 times prodices 3 entirely different results…17:23
spyderdyneso i had to pull in a bunch of other open source stuff to create a solution17:24
beisneroh that's interesting17:24
beisnerisn't rally just wrapping a set of actions and delivering some report output?17:24
spyderdyneit is17:24
beisnerso one could say the cloud wasn't performing consistently17:24
gemaor the tests are unreliable17:24
gemanot rally17:25
dmelladothat was going to be my point17:25
beisneror that, sure17:25
spyderdynei cant trust a tool that creates an object, tests it, and then forgets to remove it17:25
dmelladothe stability/or not from the openstack clouds17:25
beisneroh, that.17:25
gemaspyderdyne: that's a different issue from reliability17:25
beisneri think that's likely an issue with the scenario17:25
gemaspyderdyne: but my tool removes everything it creates , lol17:25
spyderdyneto be sure17:25
spyderdynemine too17:26
spyderdyne:)17:26
dmelladoIIRC there was some stuff about rally that was aiming to do that17:26
dmelladofor tempest there's at least this cleanup script17:26
spyderdynethere was, but it never came to pass afaik17:26
dmelladobut it's not really fully implemented in the normal run17:26
gemadmellado: you could introduce yourself and give us a bit of an overview of what you are interested in?17:27
dmelladosure, well actually I'm working for Red Hat as a quality engineer and a contributor to upstream tempest17:27
dmelladowhile also keeping our downstram repo17:28
dmelladoI'm interested in getting to know more tools or what people are interested in17:28
gemamalini: do you have a link to opencafe?17:28
malinisure .. 1min17:28
gemathat one is also interested, I heard sam talk about it and looked into it after coming back from tokyo17:29
malinihttps://github.com/openstack/opencafe17:29
gemainteresting17:29
dmelladoas something 'official' tools such as tempest or rally ar lacking. I've been also looking into shaker, and some more stuff ;)17:29
malini#link https://github.com/openstack/cloudcafe17:29
dmelladoso great meeting you all!17:29
malini#link https://github.com/openstack/cloudcafe17:29
gemadmellado: great to have you here too17:29
malini#link https://github.com/openstack/cloudroast17:29
gemaok, I think we could set up some goals for the next meeting17:30
gemabecause we are a bit aimless17:31
gemaexcept for spyderdyne17:31
spyderdynewhat is the QA team that has a meeting at the same time as ours?17:31
dmelladospyderdyne: yep17:31
gemaspyderdyne: tempest meeting17:31
gemawe could move ours17:32
spyderdyneah17:32
gemamaybe we don't have more visitors from QA because the meetings clash17:32
spyderdynewe jsut did move ours which is why i was curios17:32
gemaspyderdyne: we never moved it17:32
gema#action come up with an actionable goal to accomplish before next ODS17:33
gemawe'll come back to this in the new year17:33
dmelladogema: the QA meeting changes the time in a weekly-basis17:33
dmelladoone is more EMEA friendlier17:33
dmelladoi.e next week17:34
gemaahh, ok17:34
gemamost of the people here are from the US17:34
gemaso we only have one slot for now17:34
gemathe other thing I wanted to discuss is holiday season schedule17:35
gemaI am not going to be in next Thursday or the one after next17:35
malinisame here17:35
gemais anyone going to be around or shall we just cancel those two?17:35
gemabecause we are so lucky that we are hitting Xmas Eve and New Year's Eve17:36
gemathis year :)17:36
maliniyayy :)17:36
dmellado+1 here (even when I just arrived xD)17:36
gemadmellado: do you want to be added to the mailing?17:36
spyderdyneim avalable next week, but not the following17:36
gemaif so, give spyderdyne your email address17:36
dmelladoplease17:36
dmelladodmellado@redhat.com17:37
spyderdyneim fine for this being the last meeting this year though17:37
gemasounds like makes sense to have two weeks off17:37
gemayou would be alone next week , I think17:37
gemahere17:37
gema#info The following two meetings are cancelled, we will be back on normal schedule on Jan 7th17:38
gemaok, so let's use the Xmas break to think about what we want to get out of this group and where we are going17:39
gemaI will publish a link to my project as soon as it is published on the mailing17:39
gemaand we have the action of using mythos on rackspace's cloud and ubuntu's17:39
gemamalini: did you get too it?17:39
malinigema: get what?17:40
malinioh - the action of course :D17:40
gemamalini: remember that last meeting spyderdyne asked for help with testing mythos?17:40
gemaI haven't had the time to do it17:40
maliniyes, its still oin my todo though17:40
gemaok17:40
gema#action test mythos on ubuntu cloud and rackspace cloud (malini and gema)17:41
gemaok, any other questions?17:41
gemaor thoughts17:41
gema#action spyderdyne to add dmellado to the mailing17:41
spyderdyneworking on it now.  i have them saved.17:42
gemacoolio, have a happy Christmas everyone, and see you in the new yar17:42
gemayear17:42
gema\o/17:42
dmellado;)17:42
dmelladosame there!17:42
malinio/17:42
maliniHappy Holidays all!17:42
spyderdyne:)17:43
gemahockeynut: don't let neutron steal your xmas :)17:43
malini:D17:43
dmellado+ tomorrow star wars \o/17:43
dmelladoxD17:43
gemadmellado: lol17:43
gemaI am jealous now x)17:43
gema#endmeeting17:43
openstackMeeting ended Thu Dec 17 17:43:49 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:43
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hockeynutlol17:43
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gemathanks for your time everyone!17:44
beisner:)  take care, all!17:46
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