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gema | o/ | 17:02 |
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gema | #startmeeting tailgate | 17:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 17 17:03:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tailgate' | 17:03 |
spyderdyne | hello everyone | 17:03 |
gema | o/ | 17:03 |
malini | o/ | 17:03 |
hockeynut | o/ | 17:05 |
hockeynut | in a video meeting as well - multitasking :-) | 17:05 |
gema | hockeynut: well done :D | 17:05 |
gema | spyderdyne: any developments on your side? | 17:06 |
spyderdyne | still tweaking. | 17:06 |
spyderdyne | up to 5,000 concurrent scale instances now | 17:06 |
gema | awesome | 17:07 |
spyderdyne | should have siege results this afternoon | 17:07 |
gema | I am still working on my project and haven't managed to publish it yet | 17:08 |
gema | but basically it is a REST api that runs on the openstack side + a jenkins plugin that can spin independent test environment | 17:08 |
gema | be able to test openstack on openstack | 17:08 |
malini | what are you using to spin up the test env? | 17:09 |
gema | jenkins asks the rest api for a slave | 17:09 |
gema | and this slave is an openstack tenant | 17:09 |
gema | created/removed on the fly | 17:09 |
gema | on demand, basically | 17:10 |
malini | cool | 17:10 |
gema | funnily enough it is taking me longer to make the whole project a nice packaged thing that it took to get it working | 17:10 |
gema | but I am getting there | 17:10 |
gema | and writing documentation as well | 17:10 |
gema | this is aimed at functional testing, though | 17:11 |
malini | it always takes longer to package it :) | 17:11 |
gema | malini: thanks for the encouragement :D | 17:11 |
gema | malini: do you have anything to report? | 17:11 |
malini | nope | 17:11 |
spyderdyne | it definitely takes a long time t package things | 17:11 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:11 |
gema | \o/ | 17:12 |
gema | I feel less useless now x) | 17:12 |
gema | hockeynut: anything from you? | 17:12 |
hockeynut | nothing new from me - been getting all educated on neutron/lbaas for my next assignment | 17:12 |
dmellado | Hi everyone, new to the project and attending the qa meeting at the same time | 17:13 |
gema | dmellado: o/ welcome :) | 17:13 |
dmellado | but trying to understadnd the scope from this xD | 17:13 |
gema | dmellado: let me get you a link | 17:13 |
gema | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-tailgaters | 17:13 |
gema | dmellado: we are still trying to find our place, but we are essentially a bunch of QA people from different integrators collaborating to make the testing less redundant | 17:14 |
dmellado | thanks gema, I read that but thought it was a little bit high level | 17:14 |
dmellado | isn't it? | 17:14 |
gema | dmellado: it is | 17:14 |
malini | dmellado: at this point, we are just brain dumping each other with what we do :) | 17:15 |
dmellado | xD | 17:15 |
spyderdyne | testing beyond the gate… | 17:15 |
gema | #link https://code.launchpad.net/openstack-tailgate | 17:15 |
spyderdyne | the code gate | 17:15 |
gema | dmellado: and we have mythos which has been contributed by spyderdyne | 17:15 |
dmellado | is that one another kind of testing framework? | 17:15 |
gema | essentially test code that aims at scale testing | 17:15 |
gema | spyderdyne: will you do the honors? | 17:16 |
spyderdyne | sure | 17:16 |
spyderdyne | im looking for the presentation link | 17:17 |
gema | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1eHrWk2xmooJY1exe-ddRsDebkXQcAMLklkIuH0wTEL0/edit#slide=id.ge43b425a7_0_2 | 17:18 |
gema | dmellado: we were alternate for tokyo and they never called us | 17:19 |
spyderdyne | yeah, that one | 17:19 |
gema | but we have a presentation as a result of that | 17:19 |
dmellado | nice! | 17:19 |
spyderdyne | we currently have a launchpad repo containing the mythos project | 17:19 |
gema | it may help understand where we are coming from | 17:19 |
spyderdyne | nothign else contributed yet | 17:19 |
spyderdyne | mythos contains features to spawn server and client scale testing images for deployment to the cloud | 17:20 |
dmellado | the point about not reinventing the wheel it's fair enough for me xD | 17:20 |
gema | well, there are other tools from the different companies that are opensource | 17:20 |
spyderdyne | there are | 17:20 |
spyderdyne | and none of them agree | 17:20 |
gema | spyderdyne: agree with what? | 17:21 |
spyderdyne | each other | 17:21 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:21 |
gema | well, we basically don't have any resources so far | 17:21 |
gema | what people have managed to do on their own time | 17:21 |
gema | and well, spyderdyne | 17:21 |
malini | Also, folks have invested a lot in what they already have | 17:21 |
* beisner waves | 17:22 | |
gema | beisner: o/ | 17:22 |
spyderdyne | ;) | 17:22 |
spyderdyne | im the only one who has shared so far | 17:22 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:22 |
* beisner shares: juju, maas, ubuntu, charms :D | 17:23 | |
spyderdyne | of course, we decided that Rally was not to be trusted since the same test on the same system 3 times prodices 3 entirely different results… | 17:23 |
spyderdyne | so i had to pull in a bunch of other open source stuff to create a solution | 17:24 |
beisner | oh that's interesting | 17:24 |
beisner | isn't rally just wrapping a set of actions and delivering some report output? | 17:24 |
spyderdyne | it is | 17:24 |
beisner | so one could say the cloud wasn't performing consistently | 17:24 |
gema | or the tests are unreliable | 17:24 |
gema | not rally | 17:25 |
dmellado | that was going to be my point | 17:25 |
beisner | or that, sure | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | i cant trust a tool that creates an object, tests it, and then forgets to remove it | 17:25 |
dmellado | the stability/or not from the openstack clouds | 17:25 |
beisner | oh, that. | 17:25 |
gema | spyderdyne: that's a different issue from reliability | 17:25 |
beisner | i think that's likely an issue with the scenario | 17:25 |
gema | spyderdyne: but my tool removes everything it creates , lol | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | to be sure | 17:25 |
spyderdyne | mine too | 17:26 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:26 |
dmellado | IIRC there was some stuff about rally that was aiming to do that | 17:26 |
dmellado | for tempest there's at least this cleanup script | 17:26 |
spyderdyne | there was, but it never came to pass afaik | 17:26 |
dmellado | but it's not really fully implemented in the normal run | 17:26 |
gema | dmellado: you could introduce yourself and give us a bit of an overview of what you are interested in? | 17:27 |
dmellado | sure, well actually I'm working for Red Hat as a quality engineer and a contributor to upstream tempest | 17:27 |
dmellado | while also keeping our downstram repo | 17:28 |
dmellado | I'm interested in getting to know more tools or what people are interested in | 17:28 |
gema | malini: do you have a link to opencafe? | 17:28 |
malini | sure .. 1min | 17:28 |
gema | that one is also interested, I heard sam talk about it and looked into it after coming back from tokyo | 17:29 |
malini | https://github.com/openstack/opencafe | 17:29 |
gema | interesting | 17:29 |
dmellado | as something 'official' tools such as tempest or rally ar lacking. I've been also looking into shaker, and some more stuff ;) | 17:29 |
malini | #link https://github.com/openstack/cloudcafe | 17:29 |
dmellado | so great meeting you all! | 17:29 |
malini | #link https://github.com/openstack/cloudcafe | 17:29 |
gema | dmellado: great to have you here too | 17:29 |
malini | #link https://github.com/openstack/cloudroast | 17:29 |
gema | ok, I think we could set up some goals for the next meeting | 17:30 |
gema | because we are a bit aimless | 17:31 |
gema | except for spyderdyne | 17:31 |
spyderdyne | what is the QA team that has a meeting at the same time as ours? | 17:31 |
dmellado | spyderdyne: yep | 17:31 |
gema | spyderdyne: tempest meeting | 17:31 |
gema | we could move ours | 17:32 |
spyderdyne | ah | 17:32 |
gema | maybe we don't have more visitors from QA because the meetings clash | 17:32 |
spyderdyne | we jsut did move ours which is why i was curios | 17:32 |
gema | spyderdyne: we never moved it | 17:32 |
gema | #action come up with an actionable goal to accomplish before next ODS | 17:33 |
gema | we'll come back to this in the new year | 17:33 |
dmellado | gema: the QA meeting changes the time in a weekly-basis | 17:33 |
dmellado | one is more EMEA friendlier | 17:33 |
dmellado | i.e next week | 17:34 |
gema | ahh, ok | 17:34 |
gema | most of the people here are from the US | 17:34 |
gema | so we only have one slot for now | 17:34 |
gema | the other thing I wanted to discuss is holiday season schedule | 17:35 |
gema | I am not going to be in next Thursday or the one after next | 17:35 |
malini | same here | 17:35 |
gema | is anyone going to be around or shall we just cancel those two? | 17:35 |
gema | because we are so lucky that we are hitting Xmas Eve and New Year's Eve | 17:36 |
gema | this year :) | 17:36 |
malini | yayy :) | 17:36 |
dmellado | +1 here (even when I just arrived xD) | 17:36 |
gema | dmellado: do you want to be added to the mailing? | 17:36 |
spyderdyne | im avalable next week, but not the following | 17:36 |
gema | if so, give spyderdyne your email address | 17:36 |
dmellado | please | 17:36 |
dmellado | dmellado@redhat.com | 17:37 |
spyderdyne | im fine for this being the last meeting this year though | 17:37 |
gema | sounds like makes sense to have two weeks off | 17:37 |
gema | you would be alone next week , I think | 17:37 |
gema | here | 17:37 |
gema | #info The following two meetings are cancelled, we will be back on normal schedule on Jan 7th | 17:38 |
gema | ok, so let's use the Xmas break to think about what we want to get out of this group and where we are going | 17:39 |
gema | I will publish a link to my project as soon as it is published on the mailing | 17:39 |
gema | and we have the action of using mythos on rackspace's cloud and ubuntu's | 17:39 |
gema | malini: did you get too it? | 17:39 |
malini | gema: get what? | 17:40 |
malini | oh - the action of course :D | 17:40 |
gema | malini: remember that last meeting spyderdyne asked for help with testing mythos? | 17:40 |
gema | I haven't had the time to do it | 17:40 |
malini | yes, its still oin my todo though | 17:40 |
gema | ok | 17:40 |
gema | #action test mythos on ubuntu cloud and rackspace cloud (malini and gema) | 17:41 |
gema | ok, any other questions? | 17:41 |
gema | or thoughts | 17:41 |
gema | #action spyderdyne to add dmellado to the mailing | 17:41 |
spyderdyne | working on it now. i have them saved. | 17:42 |
gema | coolio, have a happy Christmas everyone, and see you in the new yar | 17:42 |
gema | year | 17:42 |
gema | \o/ | 17:42 |
dmellado | ;) | 17:42 |
dmellado | same there! | 17:42 |
malini | o/ | 17:42 |
malini | Happy Holidays all! | 17:42 |
spyderdyne | :) | 17:43 |
gema | hockeynut: don't let neutron steal your xmas :) | 17:43 |
malini | :D | 17:43 |
dmellado | + tomorrow star wars \o/ | 17:43 |
dmellado | xD | 17:43 |
gema | dmellado: lol | 17:43 |
gema | I am jealous now x) | 17:43 |
gema | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 17 17:43:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-12-17-17.03.html | 17:43 |
hockeynut | lol | 17:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-12-17-17.03.txt | 17:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-12-17-17.03.log.html | 17:43 |
gema | thanks for your time everyone! | 17:44 |
beisner | :) take care, all! | 17:46 |
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