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| spyderdyne | hello | 16:45 |
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| gema | hello | 16:49 |
| gema | spyderdyne: happy new year | 16:49 |
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| spyderdyne | happy new year! | 16:50 |
| spyderdyne | i hope everyone had some end of year time with family and friends | 16:50 |
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| gema | indeed | 16:53 |
| spyderdyne | or at least some time when people in the U.S. werent bothering you :) | 16:55 |
| gema | #startmeeting tailgate | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 7 17:01:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tailgate' | 17:01 |
| gema | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2015/tailgate.2015-12-17-17.03.html | 17:01 |
| gema | #topic rollcall | 17:01 |
| gema | o/ | 17:01 |
| spyderdyne | here | 17:03 |
| gema | hello again | 17:03 |
| gema | malini: ping | 17:03 |
| malini | pong | 17:04 |
| malini | o/ | 17:04 |
| gema | malini: welcome | 17:05 |
| gema | anyone else around? | 17:05 |
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| gema | alright , moving on to last week's actions | 17:05 |
| gema | #topic last meeting actions | 17:06 |
| gema | spyderdyne: did you add dmellado to the mailing? | 17:06 |
| spyderdyne | i couldnt figure out how to | 17:06 |
| spyderdyne | i think malini manages it | 17:06 |
| spyderdyne | i dont have exchange perms to edit | 17:06 |
| gema | malini manages a cisco mailing list? | 17:06 |
| malini | hmm..I don't | 17:06 |
| spyderdyne | someone here does :) | 17:06 |
| malini | Let me dig my old emails | 17:07 |
| gema | spyderdyne: you did the set up of that list, I think | 17:07 |
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| malini | maybe the person in cisco is no longer with us | 17:07 |
| gema | oh no | 17:07 |
| spyderdyne | i didnt set that up. if i need to become admin i can dig inot it and figure it out | 17:07 |
| malini | it was mthibaut | 17:07 |
| malini | spyderdyne: could you try pinging him & see if you can take over the ML? | 17:08 |
| gema | malini: +1 | 17:08 |
| gema | sounds good | 17:08 |
| gema | since he is not involved anymore | 17:08 |
| malini | I dont think anybody else would be able to manage the cisco list | 17:08 |
| malini | on tht not we should have just been in google groups or something? | 17:08 |
| malini | note* | 17:08 |
| gema | we could activate the launchpad group list | 17:08 |
| gema | and go with that one | 17:08 |
| malini | sounds good | 17:09 |
| gema | then anyone admin in that group can manage it | 17:09 |
| spyderdyne | good idea | 17:09 |
| spyderdyne | and i will see about retiring this one | 17:09 |
| gema | and I believe that'll reduce the number of people subscribed | 17:09 |
| gema | hopefully not by much | 17:09 |
| gema | spyderdyne: let's coordinate, I will figure out how to subscribe users of that group to the mailing | 17:10 |
| spyderdyne | i will see about copying the old member list to the new service | 17:10 |
| gema | and then we can send an email with instructions on how to join the new list | 17:10 |
| spyderdyne | i like it | 17:10 |
| gema | spyderdyne: it will require people joining the group | 17:10 |
| gema | and depend on them having launchpad accounts | 17:10 |
| malini | good idea | 17:10 |
| malini | we probably are spamming a few folks now :( | 17:10 |
| spyderdyne | many of the members dont participate any more so i dont know that its a bad thing necessarily | 17:10 |
| spyderdyne | right | 17:10 |
| gema | yep, we'll do that then | 17:11 |
| gema | #action spyderdyne and gema to coordinate the move to the new list | 17:11 |
| spyderdyne | agreed | 17:11 |
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| spyderdyne | do we have any more topics from the last meeting? | 17:12 |
| gema | then we had another action , malini, did you run mythos in rackspace? | 17:12 |
| gema | yep | 17:12 |
| malini | no :-$ | 17:12 |
| spyderdyne | i have made a number of improvements since our last meeting | 17:12 |
| malini | unfortunately I cant do it as my day job & life is coming into its way :/ | 17:12 |
| spyderdyne | i could definitely do with some user feedback if anyone is able to try it out | 17:13 |
| spyderdyne | i can even set up a time to meet and do a walkthrough if needed | 17:14 |
| spyderdyne | I am putting together a demo that will be recorded in the next couple of weeks | 17:14 |
| gema | spyderdyne: if you could show me that demo, that'll be helpful | 17:14 |
| gema | because then I don't have a lot of learning to do | 17:15 |
| gema | and can get on with it quicker | 17:15 |
| spyderdyne | i will see if I can post it somewhere for everyone to look at | 17:15 |
| gema | my problem is not resources (cloud to run on) my problem atm is time | 17:15 |
| spyderdyne | naturally | 17:15 |
| gema | ok, so let's leave it at I will run it after I watch the demo | 17:16 |
| gema | #action spiderdyne will provide a demo of mythos and gema will run it in ubuntu and provide feedback | 17:16 |
| gema | and the third and last action we had pending from last meeting is coming up with an actionable goal too accomplish before next ODS | 17:17 |
| gema | I think this grants another topic | 17:17 |
| gema | and an honest discussion | 17:17 |
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| gema | #topic next goal | 17:17 |
| gema | my feeling is that we've lost the group we had at the beginning | 17:17 |
| spyderdyne | the call for papers is open for the Austin summit | 17:18 |
| spyderdyne | should be a big one too | 17:18 |
| gema | due to divergent priorities, I think | 17:18 |
| gema | so I am not sure where we are or where we are going now | 17:18 |
| spyderdyne | some of them may have been absorbed by other teams too | 17:18 |
| gema | yes | 17:18 |
| gema | I know I put a lot of time into looking at defcore stuff | 17:18 |
| gema | a lot of the spare time I have from everything else | 17:19 |
| gema | but more than to tailgaters | 17:19 |
| spyderdyne | i think that is the general concensus | 17:19 |
| gema | on the other hand, I like to see what you guys are up to | 17:19 |
| gema | so I am not sure how we move forward | 17:20 |
| spyderdyne | i dont think we have made enough progress towards any achievable goals to attract much attention thus far | 17:20 |
| gema | agreed | 17:20 |
| spyderdyne | we spent the first 6 months trying to decide what we were supposed to be doing after all | 17:20 |
| spyderdyne | :) | 17:20 |
| gema | yep | 17:20 |
| gema | and now we are still doing the same | 17:21 |
| malini | & as long as we just have our personal spare time for this, its really hard to make progress | 17:21 |
| spyderdyne | should we abandon? | 17:21 |
| malini | Its hard to say yes to that :( | 17:22 |
| malini | at the least, we can pick each other's brain on how to test | 17:22 |
| spyderdyne | do we have any goals that we fell we can address that arent covered by other efforts? | 17:22 |
| gema | for me, not anymore | 17:22 |
| spyderdyne | i support that | 17:22 |
| malini | agreed | 17:23 |
| spyderdyne | everything i have done support the performance and benchmarking team | 17:23 |
| gema | yep | 17:23 |
| spyderdyne | i planned on attending those meetings starting next week anyway | 17:23 |
| gema | spyderdyne: when are they? | 17:24 |
| gema | I'd like to attend those too | 17:24 |
| spyderdyne | participation has been minimal, and a number of members who were with us at the start have gone | 17:24 |
| spyderdyne | tuesdays at 16:00 UTC | 17:25 |
| gema | sounds good | 17:25 |
| gema | will add it to my calendar | 17:25 |
| spyderdyne | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Performance_Team | 17:25 |
| gema | defcore's meetings are also at 4pm UTC on Wednesdays | 17:26 |
| gema | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/DefCoreCommittee | 17:27 |
| gema | I think I vote for abandoning as well | 17:27 |
| gema | in favor of focussing on all the other things we've discovered | 17:27 |
| gema | and are aligned with our interests/needs | 17:27 |
| gema | one thing that remains to be answered is how to test a deployed cloud | 17:27 |
| gema | but I think that defcore with the compliance stuff are answering that one also | 17:28 |
| spyderdyne | right | 17:28 |
| gema | and I feel I'd like to contribute tests and ideas there | 17:28 |
| gema | plus they have the big guns :D | 17:29 |
| spyderdyne | and i am participating in an effort across multiple platinum and gold member organizations to define these things to present to the governance board | 17:29 |
| spyderdyne | i think we missed our window or opportunity in this group | 17:29 |
| gema | spyderdyne: so that'll all be public as well? | 17:29 |
| gema | malini: you are quiet | 17:30 |
| malini | well - I agree with the two of you | 17:30 |
| malini | we haven't been able to pique much interest or get anything done | 17:30 |
| spyderdyne | its essentially a state fair of large stakeholders competing in a massive environment provided by intel, the results of which will be adopted across the board | 17:30 |
| beisner | bah. sorry, late. | 17:31 |
| gema | beisner: just in time to say goodbye :P | 17:31 |
| beisner | ha! | 17:31 |
| spyderdyne | lol | 17:31 |
| beisner | hi. | 17:31 |
| gema | I'd like to keep this channel though | 17:31 |
| gema | and keep in touch | 17:31 |
| malini | was abt to ask that :) | 17:31 |
| spyderdyne | we are discussing the relevance of this team versus contributing our efforts elsewhere | 17:31 |
| gema | alright, so what now | 17:32 |
| gema | do we send an email with the conclusion to the mailing | 17:32 |
| gema | or do we set a vote | 17:32 |
| spyderdyne | if we can keep the repo, I would like to look at creating a PPA at some point | 17:32 |
| gema | spyderdyne: that is there to stay | 17:33 |
| spyderdyne | ok, good | 17:33 |
| gema | and I think we should still move the mailing | 17:33 |
| spyderdyne | we should | 17:33 |
| spyderdyne | condense it | 17:33 |
| gema | and have whoever wants to tstay in touch to join | 17:33 |
| spyderdyne | i intend to do the following for PPAs | 17:33 |
| spyderdyne | 1. create a mythos PPA for each of the projects contained therein for installing mythos-odin, mythos-medusa, etc. | 17:34 |
| spyderdyne | 2. add a medusa phoronix test suite for the openbenchmarking.org stuff | 17:34 |
| spyderdyne | on the latter i have been in constant contact with its creator and he is very supporting | 17:35 |
| gema | spyderdyne: sounds good | 17:35 |
| gema | #action gema to summarize our discussion from today and send it to the list | 17:36 |
| gema | I will explain we are cancelling this meeting and moving the mailing to launchpad | 17:36 |
| gema | and that we are keeping this channel and the launchpad mailing/team to keep in touch | 17:36 |
| gema | that we will be contributing to other projects | 17:37 |
| gema | sounds like a fair summary? | 17:37 |
| spyderdyne | correct | 17:37 |
| gema | ok, will do that | 17:37 |
| gema | do we have anything else to discuss? | 17:38 |
| gema | (today) | 17:38 |
| malini | none from me | 17:38 |
| spyderdyne | #action spyderdyne to investigate the current internal mailing and attempt to transfer the addresses to the new list | 17:38 |
| gema | spyderdyne: you? | 17:39 |
| spyderdyne | you create the new list and I will see about closing out the new one and saving the list | 17:39 |
| spyderdyne | closing out the old one, sorry | 17:39 |
| gema | spyderdyne: ok, if you manage to get all the emails we can send an email to all with instructions on how to join the group | 17:40 |
| gema | in case they want to | 17:40 |
| gema | I wouldn't do mass subscription | 17:40 |
| spyderdyne | yep | 17:40 |
| gema | otherwise we'll send the email to all the names in the etherpad | 17:40 |
| spyderdyne | ok, well thanks for your help everyone | 17:40 |
| gema | thank you all for coming and for your time :) | 17:40 |
| spyderdyne | we will stay in touch | 17:41 |
| gema | spyderdyne: I still want to run mythos on ubuntu | 17:41 |
| gema | and get you the feedback | 17:41 |
| spyderdyne | do you hvae my email? | 17:41 |
| gema | yep | 17:41 |
| spyderdyne | ok | 17:41 |
| spyderdyne | just get with me offline | 17:41 |
| gema | ok | 17:41 |
| spyderdyne | i will publish updates to the new mailer | 17:41 |
| gema | perfect, thanks | 17:41 |
| gema | calling it a day then | 17:42 |
| gema | if noone has anything else | 17:42 |
| spyderdyne | bye everyone! | 17:42 |
| gema | bye for now! | 17:42 |
| gema | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 7 17:42:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2016/tailgate.2016-01-07-17.01.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2016/tailgate.2016-01-07-17.01.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tailgate/2016/tailgate.2016-01-07-17.01.log.html | 17:42 |
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